User talk:Banabakabiroshitha
December 2022
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Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize pages by deliberately introducing incorrect information, you may be blocked from editing. EvergreenFir (talk) 17:08, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
Banabakabiroshitha engaging in synthesis vandalism again
[edit]Banabakabiroshitha readded his previous vandalism he was warned against and is now engaging in synthesizing and doing his own original research by mixing two different citations to form his own conclusion.
The section on Aisin Gioro is about a specific subclade of C-M48 carried by Manchus called C3b2b1*-M401(xF5483), not the entire broader C-M48 haplogroup which has other subclades but he's vandalizing and synthesizing two different sources together to make it seem as though Han carry a Manchu subclade, probably pushing an ethnic nationalist agenda against other people. The citaton he added about a haplogroup found in Han Chinese from Liaoning to Gansu is not talking about the specific subclade C3b2b1*-M401(xF5483) found in Manchus but is talking about another subclade of the broader C-M48 clade.
The reference he added is an article called "The genetic legacy of the Mongols" talking about a Mongol subclade earlier attributed to Genghis Khan and Mongols found in Hazaras, Uzbeks and Uyghurs and not the newer C3b2b1*-M401(xF5483) subclade which doesn't include Hazaras, Uzbeks, Uyghurs.
His first edit also undid fixes I made (seperating 2 different genetic studies which clash which each other, "Recent Spread of a Y-Chromosomal Lineage in Northern China and Mongolia" which is about the subclade C3b2a-M48 found into 10 different ethnic minorities (1.5 million men) and "Y chromosome of Aisin Gioro, the imperial house of the Qing dynasty" which is about the rare C3b2b1*-M401(xF5483) subclade which is not common among any ethnicity at all).
Recent Spread of a Y-Chromosomal Lineage in Northern China and Mongolia. (This is about C3b2a-M48 aka the "Manchu cluster" found in 10 ethnic minorities but not in Han)
Y chromosome of Aisin Gioro, the imperial house of the Qing dynasty. (This is about C3b2b1*-M401(xF5483) aka the actual haplogroup of Aisin Gioro which is rare in all ethnic groups. This genetic study exliplicitly denounces and debunks the previous genetic study above and says the "Manchu cluster" C3b2a-M48 is not the chromosome of Aisin Gioro)
The genetic legacy of the Mongols. (This is about the star cluster subclade of C-M48 which was attributed to Genghis Khan and Mongols, has nothing to do with Aisin Gioro and which Banabakabiroshitha is using to claim Han in Gansu and Liaoning carry Aisin Gioro y dna.
So Banabakabiroshitha is in effect synthesizing three different citations into his own wrong conclusion. He's conflating the rare Aisin Gioro C3b2b1*-M401(xF5483) clade with the C3b2a-M48 subclade found in 10 ethnic minorities and then conflating that with the Genghis Khan specific star cluster subclade of C-M48 found in Gansu and Inner Mongolia.Atsbi (talk) 17:50, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
It's obvious by now you are a nationalist vandal trying to insert incorrect information to win some online war. If you followed Wikipedia rules and actually wrote what the citation "The genetic legacy of the Mongols" said, (that the Mongol Y DNA is found in small amounts in Gansu and Liaoning") I wouldn't be reverting since I would be in violation of removing cited information. Instead, since you are lying about what the citation says and synthesizing multiple citations together (by using the distribution of the Mongol clade of C-M48 in that study to false represent the "Manchu clade" of the haplogroup in the other genetic study, because you want to falsely claim the citations said Han carry Manchu Y chromosomes), your edits are open vandalism, synthesis and original research.Atsbi (talk) 16:19, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
The same geneticists Tatiana Zerjal and Xue Yali who wrote the 2003 genetic study "The genetic legacy of the Mongols" on the Mongol cluster subclade of C-M48 which originated 1000 years ago (which you took the Gansu and Inner Mongolia Han sample results from) were the same peple who wrote the 2005 study "Recent Spread of a Y-Chromosomal Lineage in Northern China and Mongolia" which explictly says they could not find the 1.5 million men Manchu cluster subclade in any Han man but its found only in seven ethnic minorities and originated 340-590 years ago. You know you are lying and synthesizing the two different studies at this point. The exact same authors led both studies which are on 2 entirely different subclades and deny that the second subclade appears in Han populations.Atsbi (talk) 19:48, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
Blocked as a sockpuppet
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{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. --Blablubbs (talk) 15:23, 25 December 2022 (UTC)