User talk:Ballpark frank

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Unsure about title capitalization vs. page URL

I'm still unsure about my title/page name for Things That Go Bump In The Night Film Fest (Bump Fest). I understand why lower-case would be preferable for search purposes. However, I also want the title that appears on the page to reflect the 'proper name' of the festival. Bottom line:

1. I believe the page title (for URL purposes) should be "Things that go bump in the night (bump fest)"
2. I would like to ensure the visual title on the page reads "Things That Go Bump In The Night (Bump Fest)"
3. I'm not really sure how to...ensure this.

So, please, help me Obi-Wan, you're my only hope. --Ballpark frank (talk) 16:54, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

You can't have both in one page. The article title should be what reliable sources commonly use to refer to the festival, and that seems to be "Things That Go Bump In The Night Film Festival". If "Bump Fest" is a common alternative name, we can create a redirect that will point readers searching for that title to the main article. Since the search bar isn't case sensitive anyway, creating redirects from different capitalizations, while possible, would not serve much of a purpose.

On an unrelated note, that article desperately needs better sources. Facebook, YouTube, IMDb and the like are not considered reliable because they largely are not subject to editorial oversight. That would cover more than half the article's current sources, including every single one for the 2014 festival. Huon (talk) 17:55, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. I wasn't sure whether search would be affected by the title. As for the portion in parenthesis, that isn't a common alternative name. If it becomes so, a redirect would probably be in order.

As for the assorted sources, the majority of the references to Facebook, YouTube, Vimeo and IMDb are for the actual films involved. Many of the independent parties do not have actual websites created, but I'm currently trying to find other sources as well. I understand how the reliability seems questionable - even to the point of the actual festival not having it's own website (though to my understanding, there is discussion ongoing about trying to create that). It's been mostly a conglomeration of social media, with a few local news sources providing coverage to the event. I hadn't really noticed the lack of sources in the 2014 festival section, but will go back and see what I can do. Again, thanks for pointing out these problem areas. --Ballpark frank (talk) 18:10, 2 November 2014 (UTC)