User talk:Balaji Alavuthin

Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia. While objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. Mean as custard (talk) 12:00, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop. If you continue to add promotional or advertising material to Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. Mean as custard (talk) 16:22, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Undisclosed paid editing

Hello Balaji Alavuthin. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Zalaris, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Balaji Alavuthin. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Balaji Alavuthin|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Melcous (talk) 12:23, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Final warning

Please do not edit the Zalaris article again without responding to the question above about paid and WP:Conflict of Interest editing, which seems apparent from your user name and your continued promotional editing. If you do so, you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Melcous (talk) 07:05, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. Melcous (talk) 13:19, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for persistently editing contrary to the guideline on conflict of interest, the policy on promotional editing, and the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use relating to paid editing.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text at the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. JBW (talk) 21:34, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi JBW, this is Balaji. I have been working at Zalaris Employees for the past three years. I want to clarify that my previous message was not intended as a paid promotion, but rather a misunderstanding of the guidelines. Could you please consider unblocking me? Balaji Alavuthin (talk) 06:13, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Balaji Alavuthin (talk) 11:26, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Balaji Alavuthin (talk) 11:27, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It does not matter whether or not you are specifically paid to edit Wikipedia on behalf of the company. Your employment with the company is, by itself, enough for you to be considered a paid editor.

It is highly unlikely that admins will consider unblocking your account if your only intention is to write about your employer. They will want to see you commit to editing other topics where you do not have a conflict of interest. Over time, after you have built up a history of constructive edits and a better understanding of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, then you may be allowed to write about this company using edit requests (assuming the article survives deletion).

Please use the {{unblock}} template if you wish to request an unblock, otherwise admins will never notice your request. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:27, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Balaji Alavuthin (talk) 05:31, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, @Drm310, for your assistance. I have submitted a request to unblock Balaji Alavuthin (talk) 05:34, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Drm310, could you assist me in locating the appeal key? I received an email from the Unblock Ticket Request System UTRS, requesting me to verify my user account with the appeal key. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find the appealing key anywhere in my profile. Balaji Alavuthin (talk) 06:29, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You successfully posted an unblock request on the unblock ticket request system (UTRS), at UTRS appeal #76297. That request was declined by Yamla, who told you that any unblock request should be made here, not on UTRS. Therefore you have no further need for the "appeal key", so you can forget it. Instructions on how to request an unblock are given above, including a link to the guide to appealing blocks. JBW (talk) 11:30, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dear @JBW I would like to express my gratitude for confirming my UTRS request. Additionally, I have submitted a request for unblocking based on Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Can you please confirm if it is currently under review? Thank you once again for your assistance. Balaji Alavuthin (talk) 12:38, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Balaji Alavuthin: I'm not sure how to make this any more simple and clear, but here goes:

Review the guide to appealing blocks, to understand what is expected from you in your unblock request.
Place the code {{unblock|reason=}} template at the bottom of this page, and fill in the reason you are requesting an unblock after the "=" sign.
Wait for the unblock to be reviewed. Be patient, because there is a long backlog of unblock requests. It could take up to several weeks before yours is evaluated.
Do not submit any additional unblock requests until yours is reviewed, because that will just create extra work and annoyance for administrators.

--Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:09, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If, when you wrote "Can you please confirm if it is currently under review" you were referring to the UTRS unblock request which I mentioned above, then no, it isn't currently under review. When I said that it has been "declined", I meant that it has been reviewed, and as outcome of the review it had been closed without being accepted, so it is not under review and won't be reviewed again. JBW (talk) 21:04, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Contributions

Balaji Alavuthin, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use, discloses that they have been paid by Zalaris for their contributions to Wikipedia.

Balaji Alavuthin (talk) 03:46, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Request

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Balaji Alavuthin (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I was blocked for making a mistake, but I have learned from my mistake and will not do it again. I am a new editor and I am eager to contribute to Wikipedia. I was blocked on few weeks back for making a mistake. I accidentally deleted a section of text from an article. I realized my mistake immediately and I restored the text. I also apologized to the other editors who were working on the article. I understand that I should have been more careful before making any changes to the article. I have learned from my mistake and I will not do it again. I am a new editor and I am eager to contribute to Wikipedia. I believe that I can be a valuable asset to the community. I would like to be unblocked so that I can continue to edit Wikipedia. I am committed to following the rules and guidelines of the community. I will not engage in any disruptive behavior & I will follow Wikipedia all guidelines Balaji Alavuthin (talk) 04:20, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

The issue is not that you made a mistake, but you made several edits related to your conflict of interest, which was inappropriate, and you failed(until now) to declare your status as a paid editor, a Terms of Use requirement. Please tell us in a new request how your future edits will be consistent with these policies, and also tell us what edits you intend to make that are unrelated to your company. We will want to see a good edit history of edits in areas unrelated to your company in the near term before permitting you to indirectly contribute about your company, in order to demonstrate your understanding of relevant policies. I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 08:26, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Zalaris Deletion Review Consideration

Dear Editors/Admins @Scope creep @JBW @A. B. @Okoslavia @HighKing @Star Mississippi & All Editors and Admins.

The Zalaris article in Wikipedia has been submitted for deletion review as it may not meet the requirements outlined in the Wikipedia policies regarding notability (wp:ncorp) and reliable sources (wp:rs). Zalaris has received significant coverage in Europe, where it is recognized as a prominent technology success. Personally, I have observed a substantial number of credible sources discussing Zalaris. Please take a look at the article and review it. Unfortunately, I am unable to submit on disscussion page (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zalaris ) myself due to a block on Wikipedia.

1. Businessinsider

https://businessinsider.com.pl/biznes/digitalizacja-i-ouSIGCOV%20in%20RStsourcing-proste-rozwiazania-biznesowe-na-ciezkie-czasy/58lyh5l

Businessinsider - 06/03/2023

2. digitaljournal

https://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/news/theexpresswire/research-on-payroll-outsourcing-market-report-key-players-forecast-2023-2029

Report from https://industryresearch.biz/ - 24/07/2023

3. Dienas Bizness

https://www.db.lv/zinas/zalaris-baltijas-birojs-parcelsies-uz-novira-plaza-510815

Dienas Bizness - 23/03/2023

4. Government of Latvia

https://business.gov.lv/en/news/latvian-export-road-north-norway-still-has-lots-potential?page=1

Government of Latvia - 20/06/2023

5. retail-insight-network.com

https://www.retail-insight-network.com/news/zalaris-payroll-services/

retail-insight-network.com - 15/05/2023

6. SAP

https://news.sap.com/2018/07/sap-partner-zalaris-creates-healthier-business/

SAP - 19/07/2023

7. LawInsider

https://www.lawinsider.com/clause/importance-of-the-acquisition-for-zalaris

8. Verslo žinios

https://www.vz.lt/archive/article/2013/11/14/zalaris-hr-services-plecia-veikla-lietuvoje

Verslo žinios - 14/11/2013

9. Delfi

https://www.delfi.lv/bizness/nekustamais-ipasums/personalvadibas-risinajumu-uznemuma-zalaris-baltijas-birojs-atradisies-biznesa-centra-novira-plaza.d?id=55273834

Delfi - 23-02-2023

10. Finansavisen

https://www.finansavisen.no/teknologi/2023/04/12/8000103/zalaris-har-inngatt-avtale-med-ledende-bilprodusent?zephr_sso_ott=WB0O93

Finansavisen - 12/04/2023

11. GlobalCapital https://www.globalcapital.com/article/28mxdmgwd6boxtejifzls/equity-ipos/zalaris-to-list-in-olso

GlobalCapital - 05/06/2023

12. Hrgrapevine https://www.hrgrapevine.com/content/article/2018-10-30-zalaris-ceo-automation-will-make-hr-more-strategic

Hrgrapevine - 30/10/2018

13. kompetenznetz-mittelstand

https://www.kompetenznetz-mittelstand.de/de/app/account/kfm-deutsche-mittelstand-ag/article/kfm-mittelstandsanleihen-barometer---die-%E2%80%9Ezalaris-_jy5lair1.html

kompetenznetz-mittelstand -16/7/2023

14. BYGG

https://www.bygg.no/mer-outsourcing-fra-bravida/507!/

BYGG 12/12/2001

15. Raconteur.net (The times news paper article 05/12/2022) (Ref. Page 10 - 15)

https://res.cloudinary.com/yumyoshojin/image/upload/v1669996620/pdf/EE_E_AW.pdf

Raconteur is a London-based publisher of business journalism. They produce in-depth special reports on a range of business topics, including technology, finance, HR, marketing, and leadership. Their content is published in The Times and The Sunday Times, as well as on their own website.

16. EURO Money

https://www.euromoney.com/article/2abmh2082tpo4ohcltk3k/treasury/payroll-finance-ripe-for-digital-disruption euromoney - 06/07/2022

17. EIN Press Wire - Article

https://www.einpresswire.com/article/634679912/at-a-cagr-of-7-2-payroll-outsourcing-market-is-projected-to-reach-19-5-billion-by-2031

einpresswire - 19/05/2023

18. E24 Næringsliv

https://e24.no/boers-og-finans/i/LAv5eQ/zalaris-med-en-slik-marginoekning-boer-flere-snuse-paa-aksjen

E24 Næringsliv - 18/08/2020

19. Affärsvärlden

https://www.affarsvarlden.se/analys/zalaris-nya-hot

Affärsvärlden - 19/11/2018

20. Audible - Podcasts

https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/SAP-HCM-and-SuccessFactors-what-are-the-latest-HR-and-payroll-trends-Part-1-Podcast/B09XTJW8J2

audible - 13/08/2022

21. Gartner recommended zalaris on Market Recommendations section

https://www.gartner.com/en/documents/3688823

Gartner - 24/04/2017

22. Oracle mentioned there partnership with Zalaris

https://blogs.oracle.com/oraclehcm/post/oracle-payroll-connect-the-new-way-to-payroll

Oracle - 31/03/ 2021

23. SAP Pressrelease

https://news.sap.com/sweden/2003/05/sap-svenska-lagger-ut-loneadministrationen-till-zalaris/

SAP - 14/05/2003

24. Research & Markets

https://www.researchandmarkets.com/reports/5575505/global-human-resource-outsourcing-market-2022-2026#

researchandmarkets.com 01/04/2022

25. Global HRIS

https://www.globalhris.co.uk/largest-global-payroll-providers-in-2023/

Global HRIS - 07/07/2023

26. Catella

https://www.catella.com/sv/sverige/nyheter-och-pressmeddelanden/mutual-funds/2022/fragor-och-svar-fran-catella-fonder

catella - 28/01/2022

27. Appvizer

https://www.appvizer.co.uk/magazine/hr/payroll/best-payroll-software

Appvizer - 06/12/2021

28. e24.no

https://e24.no/boers-og-finans/i/LAv5eQ/zalaris-med-en-slik-marginoekning-boer-flere-snuse-paa-aksjen https://e24.no/karriere-og-ledelse/i/PowbOz/easee-grunder-til-topps-i-prestisjefylt-kaaring

e24.no - 28/08/2020

29. DN Media Group

https://www.dn.no/bors/zalaris-asa/hans-petter-mellerud/hr/kraftig-vekst-for-zalaris-det-viser-seg-at-vi-selger-mer-i-vanskelige-tider/2-1-1438140 https://www.dn.no/bors/henriette-trondsen/oslo-bors/teknologi/aksjeanalytiker-henriette-trondsen-traff-planken/2-1-837569

DN Media Group - 05/07/2020

30. SVD

https://www.svd.se/a/7lgod4/lonsamheten-maste-upp-om-zalaris-ska-ge-lon-for-modan https://www.svd.se/a/3JPkqL/zalaris-lonelyft-till-arsskiftet

SVD - 14/04/2018

31. VOL.NO

https://www.vol.no/nyheter/i/BjdGpw/man-kodder-ikke-med-pengene-til-folk-men-det-er-jo-det-vi-sitter-og-kodder-med-hver-dag https://www.vol.no/nyheter/i/04GjRB/gar-videre-med-samarbeidet-med-zalaris-men-med-tillegspunkter

vol.no - 14/05/2020

32. Dagens industri

https://www.di.se/nyheter/affarsvarlden-knowit-ska-till-hundringen/

Dagens industri - 30/11/2016

33. Stavanger Aftenblad

https://www.aftenbladet.no/okonomi/i/7dJ22B/easee-grunder-til-topps-i-prestisjefylt-kaaring

Stavanger Aftenblad - 28/01/2022

34. Harstad Tidende

https://www.ht.no/nyheter/i/WqV9da/far-besok-av-arbeidsminister-robert-eriksson https://www.ht.no/nyheter/i/Ew7jja/hastig-moete-med-hoeyre-leder

Harstad Tidende - 05/08/2015

35. Dagensperspektiv

https://dagensperspektiv.no/system/files/ua0316.1.pdf

https://dagensperspektiv.no/nyheter/outsourcer-lonn-for-30-000-ansatte-

Dagensperspektiv - 30/01/2008

36. Dagsavisen

https://www.dagsavisen.no/kultur/2014/06/16/balanseokonomi-i-oljeindustrien/ https://www.dagsavisen.no/fremtiden/2021/05/20/koronasyk-linda-gir-ikke-opp-trener-til-verdens-toffeste-konkurranse/

Dagsavisen - 16/06/2014

37. FVN

https://www.fvn.no/norgeogverden/i/eeQxR/bravida-flagger-ut-regnskapsenheten

FVN - 22/03/2002

38. Energi24

https://energi24.no/nyheter/statoil-outsourcer-hr-stillinger

energi24.no - 10/04/2014

39. Vesterålen magazine

https://www.blv.no/tok-opp-zalaris-avtale-foran-valget/s/5-9-385140

Vesterålen magazine - 27/08/2019

40. Fagbladet

https://fagbladet.no/fagforbundet/et-privat-selskap-vil-ta-over-norske-kommuners-lonnsutbetalinger-og-personaltjenester-fagforbundet-frykter-at-opptil-3000-kan-miste-jobben-6.116.613068.2b0df414e2 fagbladet.no - 20/09/2019

41. Computerworld

https://www.cw.no/kontrakter-og-avtaler-nsb-offentlig-it/zalaris-til-tidligere-nsb-selskaper/725558

Computerworld - 26/06/2016

42. kristiania

https://www.kristiania.no/aktuelt/2022/05/tidligere-hr-student-sondre-fikk-toppjobb--og-ble-gjesteforeleser/

kristiania - 13/05/2022

43. business.visitnorway.com

https://business.visitnorway.com/no/nyheter/2021/arrangerte-seminar-om-mer-barekraftige-idrettsarrangement/

business.visitnorway.com - 12/09/2021

Sport activity -----

Every year, Zalaris conducts the Norseman Triathlon, resulting in several reliable source websites covering Zalaris for this race coverage. Kindly find few links below

1. KDVR

https://kdvr.com/news/outdoor-colorado/triathlete-trains-hard-competes-in-norway/

KDVR - 15/09/2023

2. Triathlon

https://www.triathlon.org/news/article/world_triathlon_approves_members_of_the_sustainability_commission

triathlon - 28/01/2022

3. Robb Report

https://robbreport.com/lifestyle/sports-leisure/marathon-des-sables-vs-zalaris-norseman-xtreme-triathlon-1234818007/

robbreport - 26/03/2023

4. Spotify

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0O9j7FTUDGrfMO3rW8x1xh?si=aOYDeX9UQmqnN-wMisySSQ&nd=1

Spotify - 22/07/2023

5. Runnersworld

https://runnersworld.no/tysk-verdensmester-utfordrer-norsk-favoritt-pa-norseman/

runnersworld - 20/08/2022

I hope the above article adheres to Wikipedia policies regarding notability (WP:Ncorp) and reliable sources (WP:RS). Kindly review it before taking any action

Note: Google will translate this if you enter the other language URL but for some reason it doesn't produce a valid translated article URL. Balaji Alavuthin (talk) 15:22, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Non-administrator comment) Ironically, it may have been your own COI edits to the Zalaris article that gave someone the idea to nominate it for deletion. When companies try to influence Wikipedia directly, it tends to backfire. The fact that a company exists and puts out press releases does not necessarily make it notable enough for this encyclopedia. Matuko (talk) 15:38, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Matuko Thank you for your comments. I appreciate your feedback.

The Zalaris page was nominated due to concerns related to Wikipedia policies on notability (WP:NCORP) and reliable sources (WP:RS). However, I hope that the aforementioned article aligns with these policies. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

Have you got any information on the average duration for the finalization of a deletion review at Zalaris? Balaji Alavuthin (talk) 15:50, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Un-block Requst

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Balaji Alavuthin (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Dear administrator, I want to acknowledge and apologize for the inappropriate edits I made regarding my conflict of interest. I also apologize for not disclosing my status as a paid editor. However, I have rectified this by updating the paid editor tag on my talk page last week. I have thoroughly read the Wikipedia terms of use and familiarized myself with the policies concerning conflicts of interest and paid editing. I assure you that I will refrain from making any future edits related to my company or my conflict of interest. I intend to contribute in areas unrelated to my company, specifically in Mathematics, Cricket, and the IT industry. In the future, I will be more mindful of the terms of use and consistently declare my status as a paid editor whenever I make edits. I understand that you would like to see a positive edit history in unrelated areas before allowing me to indirectly contribute about my company. I am fully committed to adhering to the policies and I am confident that I will be able to demonstrate my understanding of the relevant guidelines in due course. Thank you for your time and consideration.Balaji Alavuthin (talk) 09:08, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

I am declining this request and removing talk page access. Instead of focusing on getting unblocked, the user has tried to influence the AfD for the article in which they have a paid-COI. This shows me that the editor is WP:NOTHERE to build an encyclopedia. Z1720 (talk) 01:19, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Balaji Alavuthin (talk) 09:08, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please answer the following questions to help evaluate your request:

What is promotional language and why is it not allowed on Wikipedia? (WP:PROMO)
What is Verifiability and how to editors verify the information that they add to the encyclopedia? (WP:V and WP:INCITE)
You stated above that you understand that admin want to see "a positive edit history in unrelated areas before allowing you to indirectly contribute about your company." If I unblocked you, I would restrict your ability to edit on any topic related to Zalaris. If this was violated, you could be immediately blocked by another admin without warning. This can be appealed after several months of a positive edit history. Do you agree with this?

I look forward to your responses. Z1720 (talk) 15:43, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]