User talk:Appraiser/Archive1

Welcome!

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Cam'ron AWB

Hi, I think the AWB your using keeps mispelling recieving wrong, the way you have it is "receving" which is wrong it should be "recieving". Just a heads up.

- It should be "receiving". Appraiser 02:29, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

- My mistake; you're right. Datpiff 05:23, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks! What was I thinking?? Atom

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Jeff K.

I reverted your edit to Jeff K., as that was a direct quotation from the website. [sic] indicates that a quote is exactly as it is in the source, errors intact.--Drat (Talk) 02:32, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Bandshell

Thanks for adding the pic of the bandshell on harriet, it was quite needed. ~~You may want to join Wikipedia:WikiProject_Minnesota~~ Looks like you just joined :). Don't forget to take a look at requested photos there: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Minnesota/Photos_needed -Ravedave ^{(help name my baby)} 05:06, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Minnesota history and some other stuff

I noticed that you've recently joined Wikipedia:WikiProject Minnesota, and your to-do list has several articles about historic places in Minnesota. I just wanted to mention that I'm also interested in historic places in Minnesota as well, such as items on List of Registered Historic Places in Minnesota. (There's no chance I'll ever finish the list, of course.) I've also been working on History of Minnesota lately, trying to improve the article so it has a more comprehensive picture of the history of the state. If you're interested in helping out, feel free to contribute.

I also noticed that you're looking to write an article on Battle Creek Regional Park in St. Paul. I do a pretty good amount of mountain biking there, so I can probably help out with that viewpoint. I also have a number of pictures of the park during the fall, so let me know if you want any -- I can upload them at any time.

You probably also noticed that I updated Lyndale Park with a mention of Lyndale Farmstead Park -- mainly because people might get confused about two different parks with the same name. (Actually, I was confused first, so that's where I got the idea.) Lyndale Farmstead has the house of Theodore Wirth in it, and the house is on the National Register of Historic Places, so I have a couple pictures of it.

Happy editing! --Elkman - (Elkspeak) 03:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just realized I never answered your question about a category for Minnesotans with historical importance. As far as I know, there isn't such a category. For now, they can probably go into Category:History of Minnesota; see that category for an example of what's in there now. If the number of articles about historic people starts to overwhelm the category, we can always split it. It isn't too much trouble. --Elkman - (Elkspeak) 17:20, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AWB

Hi. I'm a bit puzzled by this edit[1] You don't seem to have changed any category? Or am I - as I suspect - going mad? :) --kingboyk 21:28, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unity08 Interest?

Hi! You're one of about a dozen wikipedians who have edited Unity08 (which puts you in pretty rarified company :-)) and it occured to me that you might be interested in something in that vein. I don't want to clutter up your talk page but I wanted to let you know about my user page being used to talk about the intersection of wikis and the Unity Movement. Sorry to be a bother, but "a dozen out of hundreds of millions" seemed like a small enough group to think there might be some common interests :-)

- JenniferForUnity 02:29, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Minnesota meetup

A meetup of Wikipedians in Minnesota is proposed: please stop by the discussion page if interested. Jonathunder 22:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reminder: Meetup October 29, one o'clock, Mall of America. Jonathunder 16:24, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the late notice, but there is a change within the mall for the meetup location today: see this page. Jonathunder 15:26, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Disambiguation Talk Request

This is a form message being sent to all WikiProject Disambiguation participants. I recently left a proposed banner idea on the WikiProject Disambiguation talk page and I would appreciate any input you could provide. Before it can be approved or denied, I would prefer a lot of feedback from multiple participants in the project. So if you have the time please join in the discussion to help improve the WikiProject. Keep up the good work in link repair and thanks for your time. Nehrams2020 22:39, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dates

FYI if dates are linked like: August 14, 2006 the media wiki software automatically formats the date according to your preferences. (see WP:DATE) So go ahead and unlink months, days or years on their own but leave whole linked dates. Thanks! -Ravedave ^{(help name my baby)} 02:56, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hrm I think that script is out of date. The key is to make sure that the month day and year are all linked together. see here Help:Preferences#Date_format and here m:Image:Date-preferences-Screenshot.png for an example of that the preferences do if all three are linked. -Ravedave ^{(help name my baby)} 04:25, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

... and I applaud your work on politicians. I have added most of the current MN politicians to my watchlist to watch for POV. -Ravedave ^{(help name my baby)} 04:27, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you link like this: [[January 15]], [[2001]] then if the user changes their preferences they can see it as "2001 January 15" or "2001-01-15" etc. To me its not all that useful, but it might be to europeans. -Ravedave ^{(help name my baby)} 04:43, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for AWB cleanup

Thanks for the AWB cleanup of the Householder (Buddhism) article. Cheers! LarryR 03:38, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New WikiProject you might be interested in

There's a new WikiProject, Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places, that you might be interested in. It's a project to standardize and improve NRHP articles, as well as a place to share information. Check it out. --Elkman - (Elkspeak) 15:22, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Today's featured article

Just wanted to let you know a featured article you worked on, 0.999..., was featured today on the Main Page. Tobacman 00:21, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

District map

Good question to ask, but yeah it was because we have those maps locally on the district pages. Keep up the good work. -Ravedave ^{(help name my baby)} 22:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nice to meet you!

Appraiser, it was really a pleasure to meet you today! Seemed like a whirlwind meetup and I didn't really have enough time to get to chat with everyone I would have liked to. I'm looking forward to working with you! Estreya 00:30, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Retreive

Heh, thanks. How about 'receive' (correct) vs 'recieve' (incorrect)? <EG> -- Meersan 03:24, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Appraiser

I agreed with your question about the league of women voters not really being a special intrest group and changed it to people for the ethical treatment of animals.Now there's a special intrest group.Thank you for pointing that out to me.I like the picture of you on the beach.Saltforkgunman 03:35, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of People from Minnesota

Hi Appraiser! Thanks for your kind note Yes, I can tell how hard you worked on that list. I pretty much googled all red links - a few were pretty bogus - most were bona fide and needed to stay for potential future articles, and a few were deleted articles listed in the deleted log. I did't touch any politicians. I did catch one misspelling that did have a corresponding article. I listed all names I deleted in the history summary so please feel free to double check me as I might have missed a misspelling. Thanks for checking and I love what you've done for that list. :) Have a great day. Cricket02 17:31, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

p.s. Maybe need to watch out for edits/additions by RJBurkhart or RJBurkhart3, etc. Here is a comment at the deletion log for Earl C. Joseph, Sr. (after being moved to Earl Joseph (futurist)[2] I looked briefly at his talk page and he has warnings, etc. Just a heads up.

Climate of Minnesota

Hi, thanks for the advice on this. I'm going to feriously start adding references now, but can you explain this system a little more? I don't know what about half of these things are looking for. I put ?? on the ones I had questions on. And how do I inlucde this whole thing in an article? Is it: [ref>name =xyz | last = johnson | first = bob | etc. </ref]? Thanks!

[ref name=xyz>{(cite web

 | last =  
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 | publisher = (website name?)
 | date =  (aricle created, or recived date?)
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Gopher backer 21:55, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mall of America

Have you ever seen a statue of a Hodag anywhere in the Mall? Wahkeenah 23:58, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article has a link that claims there is a statue of one. However, I'm thinking that link's writeup is out of date. On a totally different topic, where do you do nudism in Minnesota? I'm guessing the season for that activity is kind of narrow. Wahkeenah 00:39, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dakota County

I had moved your pictures so there wasnt any blank space it just looks funny to me... --MNAdam 21:47, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting... On my screen there under the infobox, but it forces all the text to below the infobox creating a blank screen to the left of the infobox. I tried moving them to the left on the page... let me know if that works on your screen, if not you can revert it. Dakota County --MNAdam 22:06, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Texas Panhandle

Yep, it's located directly underneath the Oklahoma panhandle, I should've wikilinked it. I'll go and add that it. Gopher backer 15:05, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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FA - here we come!

I think it's looking damn good. A few questions. When do you use "main" vs. "seealso"? The article uses "main" for climate, geology, economy, etc. Why not for state fair? Also, should the Lake Agassiz sentence also mention the Red River? It seems to me the Red River of the North valley was also a result of Agassiz. Do you think I pared music too much? Appraiser 18:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is indeed looking good. I choose see-also for the state fair becuase main looked wierd in the middle of a paragraph. Main wouldn't work on that section becuase it covers more than the state fair. I was torn on Agassiz becuase the existing sentance has great prose, so I left it. You want to try and merge them? I do actually think you pared music too much, I was going to talk to you about that. I asked some "crazy into music" friends of mine about who they thought were the main artists and you cut most of them :). I'll try and expand it back a bit tonight, but not too much. -Ravedave ^{(help name my baby)} 19:52, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I-94

Well, the entire article is quickly approaching total cruft. Most of the cities I deleted were unmitigated suburbs of nearby large cities; in fact, I'd still say there's some shifting around to do in the article. Distance from other urban centres is just as important a factor, in fact, it would be the key factor.

Just to give some examples;

City        Next larger city
Billings    Fargo, 607 mi
Miles City  Billings, 145 mi
Dickinson   Bismarck, 97 mi
Fargo       Minneapolis, 234 mi
St. Cloud   Minneapolis, 72 mi
Waukesha    Milwaukee, 18 mi

Than all we'd need is an selection level. --AlexWCovington (talk) 20:26, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Progressive

Believe it or not, Paul Wellstone isn't an "American Progressive". Apparently that is a description of "American political figure active as a progressive (that is, advocating further government control over economic activity and expansion of direct democracy) in the Progressive Era (the 1890s to the 1910s)." Something political scientists came up with no doubt.

So, sometime back I created a category "Social Progressives, and Paull is in there all by himself. Another possible category might be Progressives.

Atom 22:24, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fauna of Minnesota

Appraiser: Not too long ago, much like you are doing today, I marched through Wikipedia adding Category:Fauna of Georgia (U.S. State) to all sorts of animals. Somewhere along the way, someone criticized what I was doing on the theory that many of the animals I was adding to Georgia where common throughout the U.S. Upon considering their point, I reversed what I had been doing. Animals like the American Beaver probably exist in every state and so I guess I agreed that it was pretty crazy to put the beaver in the category for every state. If I ever get around to it, I may use a list for fauna of Georgia instead. I have tried to reserve the category for animals that are unique to Georgia or otherwise has some sort of special relationship to the state.

You can certainly do what you want, but I justed wanted to share my experience. You should also know that there is a community on Wikipedia that wants to do away with ‘'Fauna by State’’ completely and replace it by some sort of regional approach.--Tlmclain | Talk 23:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Let me get this straight - you want a guy from Georgia to help you with an article about Minnesota? I know we're supposed to be bold in editing, but isn't that a bit dangerous? ;) Seriously, I'm not sure that I could provide anything useful, but if I run into anything that I can help with, I'll give it a shot.--Tlmclain | Talk 01:57, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just looked at the Minnesota article and am quite impressed. From the Barnstar that you were awarded in November, I see that you were instrumental in moving this articel to FA status - congratulations! I have also confirmed that there is not much I can help with. I was fascinated by the fact that Minnesota has a "State photo," but noticed that it is not feature in an article or shown in the main article. You probably have seen it, but, if not, it can be found here. good luck with the rest of your clean-up. --Tlmclain | Talk 02:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

While I am no expert, it seems to me that "Grace" may already be in the public domain. The Minnesota website gives the date of the photo as 1918. Wikipedia:Public domain, a Wikipedia guideline, states: In the U.S., any work published before January 1, 1923 anywhere in the world is in the public domain. Thus, wouldn't "Grace" be in the public doman? --Tlmclain | Talk 04:06, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Geology

It's not normal wikipedia style to have a closing/wrapup paragraph as far as I know. -Ravedave ^{(help name my baby)} 16:15, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lesbian American history

As far as the capitalization goes, I suppose I thought of it as an adjective derived from a proper noun, ie, Lesbos, the isle on which Sappho lived, the origin of the term, rather than a being originated from a political movement or other reasons. The image from Time magazine was one I retrieved from the Wikipedia data base, and as my knowledge of the specific workings of this copyright law is limited, I'll remove it pending further reasearch into its legality. I will also remove the red links. Unfortunately, most of this research was done in the library, so I don't have the books handy, and I'm not sure about how to go after the ISBN. Advice? Thanks for your prompt attention to this article! Cheers! Chuchunezumi 21:48, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, is there anything else that needs to be changed before you pass it? I noticed that you hadn't put a hold on the article, so I was curious how you planned to proceed. Cheers! Chuchunezumi 03:45, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good work

Nice job there, reverting the recent vanadal. --Jay(Reply) 21:12, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My thanks

You and Atom were amazingly helpful to me with your work on Lesbian American history. Please accept my sincere gratitude! Cheers! Chuchunezumi 06:56, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: NRHP project additions

I notice that you're adding {{WikiProject National Register of Historic Places}} to places of histrical significance, but in some cases they are not listed on the List of Registered Historic Places in Minnesota. Are you trying to follow the list, or expanding it to places that perhaps should be on the list? Appraiser 13:44, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was adding the template to talk page of articles that are listed in Category:Registered Historic Places in Minnesota. Presumably, everything that's in the category should be on the list as well. Some of them might not exactly match, like the state parks. For example, Blue Mounds State Park itself isn't on the National Register, but the WPA structures are on the National Register. Similarly, Grain Belt (beer) isn't on the National Register, but the brewery on Broadway Street Northeast (under the name Minneapolis Brewing Company) is on the Register. (Actually, I was debating whether the state parks and similar places should be linked to the project. That may be open to interpretation.)

It's also possible that there are places within the category that aren't linked on the list, since the "official" names on the list don't always match the article names in Wikipedia. I've found that a lot on the NRHP lists for the other 49 states. If you see that, feel free to fix the link on the list. I've had to do a lot of link repair like that.

Come to think of it, if you can think of any specific articles where I added the WikiProject template to something that doesn't look like an actual place on the National Register, feel free to ask me about it -- it's possible that I made mistakes. --Elkman - (Elkspeak) 15:59, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The one I noticed was Indian Mounds Park, Minnesota which probably shouldn't be in the category. Appraiser 18:09, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's on the National Register -- at least not when I checked it against the list. I removed Indian Mounds Park from the category. --Elkman - (Elkspeak) 18:14, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Saint Paul, Minnesota

Not a problem, I have the same issue with my pet project Shaw and Crompton! The Saint Paul article was very good however and I would be very surprised if it didn't reach GA status.

Consider visiting Wikipedia:Peer review also and follow the instructions - it often generates high-quality suggestions and expert formatting techniques. Glad to have helped, good luck! Jhamez84 18:07, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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