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Wikipedia as source

Hi, and thanks for your many outstanding DYK contributions! One word of advice: you should not cite other Wikipedia articles as inline sources. That's because we're supposed to cite only reliable sources, and Wikipedia is not a reliable source: it's user-edited, it changes all the time, and it's a tertiary source (an encyclopedia). What you should do is provide an internal (dark blue) link to the other Wikipedia article in the text, and cite its (reliable, primary or secondary) sources where appropriate and available. In cases of foreign-language Wikipedia articles, you can also add a reference like "parts of this article were translated from the German Wikipedia article on ... [link]." Best, Sandstein 05:17, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

In reply to your question, the above is quite right. Citing another Wikipedia article as your source is the same as not citing at all. The other article should provide references that should provide whatever information you wish to cite in your article. If those sources don't exist or don't provide the information you wish to include then that illustrates very clearly why you shouldn't cite an article in another article. If they do exist and do provide the information you wish to cite then we end up with two well-cited articles using reliable sources that have been checked at least twice. It could be tempting to reference another article when it references a book that you can't obtain, but while that is unfortunate, it isn't an excuse to skip the task of checking the facts. In that case, just leave out what you can't verify. Yomangani^talk 15:44, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi again. I see you keep coming up with new DYK articles, which is great, but again... please stop citing Wikipedia as a source. Doing so is impolite towards others who will have to remove these obviously inappropriate references later. Sandstein 05:32, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

In reply to your reply, no problem. No matter what novel technique you may use, Wikipedia articles may not be cited as sources because they are not reliable sources. The correct way to refer to other articles is through internal links (see also templates such as {{main}}) and through interwiki links, as suggested below, but these are navigational aids, not sources. I've noted this problem with respect to your articles at T:TDYK, so you may want to clean them up or they may not be featured on the main page. All the best, Sandstein 05:45, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi, to break into this conversation, the easiest way to fix up your (or others') articles that cite other wikipedia articles is just to delete the citations. WP:ATT makes it clear that although all material should be attributable, it need not actually be attributed. If there is material likely to be challenged, then you could add {{fact}} if you are unable to find a source yourself. Of course, if you have a source that mentions it (including a foreign-language source), you can add that citation; many articles on foreign wikipedias (though lamentably not all) will list their sources, which you can cite directly. Rigadoun (talk) 16:47, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Grey's Scouts

On 10 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Grey's Scouts, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 06:10, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

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Hi, Nice to Meet You.

Hooray! I'm not the only person born in 1995! Hope to speak soon... Andrew Marsden 16:52, 10 April 2007 (UTC) (User:Umpajug/User:06018)

MY Birthday is 08-03-1995 (Wed) you? Andrew Marsden 07:54, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Interwiki links

I noticed your article on Ruine Wulp which includes information from the German Wikipedia article Ruine Wulp. Please, if you are aware of a corresponding article in another wikipedia, add an interwiki link to that article. In this case, it is done by adding [[de:Ruine Wulp]] to the end of the article (de being for the German Wikipedia, de.wikipedia.org). Rigadoun (talk) 18:41, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Carnival of Binche

On 11 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Carnival of Binche, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 06:07, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Black Brunswickers

On 11 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Black Brunswickers, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 23:22, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

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Did you know?

On 13 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Cave of Swallows, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 11:18, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Your edit here

Can you explain why you removed the info I added to the Katherine Ann Power nomination on the DYK page? Thanks. Aboutmovies 19:31, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

No big deal, I just wanted to make sure I hadn't missed something. It make the cut anyway w/o the extra info. Aboutmovies 23:35, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Ruine Wulp

On 13 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ruine Wulp, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 20:18, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 14 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Battle of Alexander at Issus, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Carabinieri 21:23, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi, it 06018 again.

Right, wikipedians born in 1995 has been deleted. Please, join me in Category:Wikipedians born between 1995 and 1999. Just letting you know. Andrew Marsden 10:32, 15 April 2007

The Cheek!Andrew Marsden 16:55, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Johannes Rebmann

On 15 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Johannes Rebmann, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

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Re: Category talk:Wikipedians by year of birth

It goes against WP:CHILD, which, although is not official policy, is a Good Idea. :) Blast 05.04.07 0003 (UTC)

Or, it did, at any rate. Last I checked, it was still undergoing discussion, but I guess ArbCom decided it was a failure. Given that, I suppose you could create a category for that, but you'd likely get unofficial flak. Blast 05.04.07 0005 (UTC)

History of Poisons

I highly suggest that we start to break off some chunks into main articles, so that we don't overstuff the article with information. bibliomaniac15 05:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I think breaking it up by region would be a better choice. Different regions have their own respective poisons, and it would be easier to document a single culture than group a whole bunch of cultures by time period. bibliomaniac15 17:00, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay, gotcha. But who's the one who's been posting citations from Wikipedia articles? That's circular citation. bibliomaniac15 22:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 18 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Christoffelturm, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

- KNM ^Talk 12:56, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Gottlieb Ott

On 18 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gottlieb Ott, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 23:12, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

On April 20, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dusky Woodswallow, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks again Anon! Blnguyen (bananabucket) 01:49, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikimeetup

It appears to be at 5PM on 25th if you look under 'where section but I agree it is confusing. have to get some order on the page...cheers, Casliber | talk | contribs 05:43, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

I have absolutely no idea. Never been to one. cheers, Casliber | talk | contribs 06:06, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

wow...

Thank you so much 4 helping my articles. Especialy the Combat Flight Simulator 4 article. I would love some help around.Pendo4 is here...Look around...hello???...I am here... 01:52, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Well. i am starting up a new article right now. Rafa Nadal Tennis. Oh! And did u know I am 12 too?

Its a game! I just made the article. But I think it may need help. I was born 1/15/1995.Pendo4 is here...Look around...hello???...I am here... 02:07, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much!Pendo4 is here...Look around...hello???...I am here... 02:31, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Rafa Nadal Tennis

Thanks for the info, unfortunately I was going by the codemasters link at the bottom of the article, which if you click it, shows quite clearely "No results forund for Rafa Nadal Tennis - DS". Therefore I was justified in suspecting a hoax. However, I now know it is a duplicate of another article already in existance here, Rafael Nadal Tennis. Either way, the Rafa Nadal article is outta here. Regards - Thor Malmjursson 02:35, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

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Wow you r fast

I just found out that they made an article about the game. When i check the history I look at the current work and u already set it to merge!Pendo4 is here...Look around...hello???...I am here... 02:48, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Um... Can u erase that. i found out that the Wii version is not American and it is called Rafel Nadel Tennis in another country. Try pressing the link.Pendo4 is here...Look around...hello???...I am here... 03:07, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Press this link and tell me what u think..Pendo4 is here...Look around...hello???...I am here... 03:11, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

You r now freaking me out. You replied and fixed up everything in a minute! You know I do have something special 4 u that u will like.Pendo4 is here...Look around...hello???...I am here... 03:15, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Award

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Meetups

Hey, there are links below the current meetup discussion, to minutes for the previous meetups. Maybe you should ask someone who went to one of those?Garrie 04:44, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Time

I think I can free up some time too. I suppose it's good that we are in different time zones so we don't edit conflict each other. bibliomaniac15 05:03, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:RedLancers1.jpg)

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DYK

On 21 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Red Lancers, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Carabinieri 13:49, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I got in trouble

I removed that "yuck" headline yesterday but he found it.Pendo4 is here...Look around...hello???...I am here... 14:24, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

ACID

I'm pretty familiar with the workings of WP:ACID, so I nominated it. Come down and show your support! bibliomaniac15 20:57, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

What happens is sort of like this:

1. Someone comes and nominates an article.
2. People look at this article, and based on notability or interest, they support it.
3. Every 4 votes, the overdue date is extended by a week or so.
4. If not enough votes have been attained to keep an article from being overdue, then it is removed.
5. If it manages to gain the highest votes and stay above the overdue limit, then it is selected to become the new collaboration. Each collab starts on a Wednesday and ends on the next.

I hope that answers your questions on the process. bibliomaniac15 22:52, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

No, the other noms stay. That way, we can ensure that there's a continuous supply of noms. bibliomaniac15 23:56, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

If it's popular enough, then it will survive. It's actually harder than it sounds. It's often High to Core topics that get selected. bibliomaniac15 01:37, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

It can lie in both. For example, the article I'm working on, Komodo Dragon, is under the Amphibians and Reptiles WikiProject as well as Wikiproject Indonesia. bibliomaniac15 02:23, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 21 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lactarius rubrilacteus, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Carabinieri 21:37, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Rafael Nadal Tennis

Thank you for your further communication on my handling of this issue. I admit that a speedy in this case, looking back through the edits, may have been wrong to use in this matter. I did tell Pendo 4 though why I tagged it, and explained the reasoning. Looking back on it, it was flawed reasoning. Your comments on this issue have been archived from my talk page, but you may reference the comments here should you need to again User_talk:Iceflow/archive 8. Thank you for your communication, and i trust that this leaves no animosity between us. Thor Malmjursson 23:01, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I am getting angry now

GOD!!!!! CNA THEY STOP MESSING WITH RAFA TENNIS????Pendo4 is here...Look around...hello???...I am here... 01:07, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Need Help

Tell me what u think about this article I just made: Professor Brainium's Games —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pendo 4 (talk • contribs) 02:37, 22 April 2007 (UTC).

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DYK

On 24 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lucien Quélet, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

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History of Poison

My apologies for the delay, I have not been contributing at all for a while and I just came online and read your message. If you can supply me with the specifics of what information is needed or which statements are in need for an attribution then I will try my best to help. Best wishes, Sir Reginald Aylmer Ranfurly Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax 19:48, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Battle of Short Hills

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Lucien Quélet

Hi Anonymous Dissident. You had said that the cited reference mentioned that Quélet's theory "was contrary to Charles Darwin."

The reference I was referring to was the cited one, which is this. The word "Darwin" does not occur anywhere in the text of this page, so I'm not sure quite what you mean here. Could you clarify? Thanks, --Saforrest 00:09, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Further to this, the closest thing I can find on the cited page to a view on evolution is this:

"En effet, Fries, comme tous ses devanciers et contemporains, avait établi sa classification à rebours de l’évolution, c’est-à-dire que l’ordre dans lequel il avait rangé les espèces partait des plus évoluées pour aboutir aux plus primitives."

Here is a rough translation

"In effect, Fries, like all his predecessors and contemporaries, had established the classication along the wrong evolutionary direction, that is to say the order in which he arranged species went from the most advanced to the most primitive."

I really don't quite know how to properly interpret this sentence, but it seems to purely about taxonomy. Drawing any conclusions from this statement about evolution itself does not seem warranted. --Saforrest 00:18, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Egyptian birds

I've just noticed you've started List of Egyptian birds. I've created List of birds of Egypt as I was using the data as test data and created a lot of bird lists as a result. It doesn't matter, you can use it as source data or merge the two: just put a redirect in for whichever title doesn't survive (and add your page to the Category: Regional bird lists so it can be found.) Yomangani^talk 12:19, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll leave it up to you. I'm running a script that takes the lists from Clements' and formats them for wikipedia, and Egypt was one of my test countries. I've adopted the format "List of birds of x" as more use that formula than "List of xian birds" (I copied the Cuba title from Puerto Rico, but I'll move it once the FLC process is finished), and now I've done that there are 60 odd more using that title, and there will be another 60 or so coming over the next few days. Do whatever you like with my Egyptian list: the only reason I put it in was yours wasn't listed in the category I was checking against, so I didn't notice it until I was looking at a "What links here" on a bird species. Yomangani^talk 22:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Cavalry award

I hereby award Anonymous Dissident the 'Coming of the Cavalry' Award for saving the Humpback Whale after a Featured Article Review...cheers, Cas Liber 00:09, 27 April 2007 (UTC)(UTC)

wikimeetup

Yeah it was cool. I drank a bit (alcohol, that is) and burbled a bit much but was OK. See photo of Jimb with Tim Tams :) cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 07:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Addendum

Josh, can you point me in the direction of the deleted page so I can figure what the vote was and what I think? cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 12:30, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Look's like it will be well and truly deleted with the voting anyhow....cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 02:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

new mushroom article mycomorphbox

Hi AD - Would you mind adding a mycomorphbox to your new article on Lactarius rubrilacteus? You can use most other mushroom pages as a model, but if you want assistance drop me a note. Debivort 23:09, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi again, I've added one there, based on characters I found from reading up on the mushroom on the web. Thanks for starting the article! Debivort 02:34, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 30 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article types of rainfall, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--ALoan (Talk) 13:39, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

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Helpers

I am sure Yomangani will pop in to give a few tips, and Marskell too. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:23, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

What are you volunteering me for here, Cas? Yomangani^talk 10:06, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Poet

If the result of the GA review is that it can't be promoted without the addition of of citations for the bleeding obvious, you might want to skip that and head straight to FAC. If you want to wait for a few weeks I can add some more stuff in on the relationship to The Enraged Musician and probably some history on the plates and states (A reference needed for "a comic scene of a violinist driven to distraction by the noise from the street outside his practice room"? I'm lost for words). Yomangani^talk 10:06, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, if you think we can get this to FA, I'd be very happy to help out. And yes, I agree - the fact that someone requested refs for something like that is absolutely ridiculous. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 10:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

On second thoughts, I won't bother - I've never been interested in GA and I lost interest in FA some time ago. If you do need anything in that article citing to get it through GA I can cite it all, but I don't think there is anything in there that is "likely to be challenged" (unless adopting the "the sky is blue"^{citation needed} approach). Yomangani^talk 00:37, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Malay kite

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Thanks for informing me about the RFCN decision

Thanks for writing a comment that made me aware of the RFCN ruling. I had not been informed about it, I am just glad that my username is in accordance with the guidelines.⇨ EconomistBR ⇦ Talk 21:47, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Jack Johnson

Hi there. I see that you moved Jack Johnson (musician) to Jack Johnson. Would it be possible for you to delete the redirect Talk:Jack Johnson and move Talk:Jack Johnson (musician) to there? Right now the talk page has been separated from the article. Thanks. Adam McMaster (talk) 07:52, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Done. Sorry I neglected to do this before. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 08:27, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

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a new article for DYK

Hello, Anonymous Dissident, there is a new article on a Chinese athlete Jin Jing. We want to push this article onto the "Did you know" on the main page. Could you give us some comments on the talk page of that article? How should we improve that article? If it's a good one, could you please help us put this article onto the "Did you know"? The question could be '[Jin Jing|Who] is called the "Smiling Angel in Wheelchair" by Chinese people?' Thanks!--Supportjinjing (talk) 23:33, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

G'day

G'day esteemed person who has expressed interest in Sydney based meetups at this page (I hope that's the correct wording for the formal greeting!!). You may have heard that Australia is to have its very own 'chapter' of the Wikimedia Foundation - and further, there's a meeting coming up to discuss / enact the chapter's incorporation (details here). I'm afraid that I don't know too much about the details of what this entails, other than having a private hope that we might get a secret handshake, and maybe cheap coffee at wikimania (this is a poor attempt at humour - I'm sure that the Chapter's do great work, and it's a good thing that Australia is to have one).

If you're interested in meeting up this weekend (the set date is the 20th) - or later, then please do head over here and sign up, or make a comment at the talk page... the drive to create the chapter has largely come from another town in Australia that I'm afraid I haven't actually heard much about.. and anything they can do.... right? - cheers, Privatemusings (talk) 11:11, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For being an excellent Wikipedian and administrator, and a role model, I award you, Anonymous Dissident, a Barnstar in recognition of those qualities. Acalamari 23:37, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Acalamari. I'm back from my break and looking forward to further editing. Cheers, -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 04:57, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

You're very welcome! :) Acalamari 15:41, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

...we'll get there yet... Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:10, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Holbeach

Hi, Its Holbeche according to the picture on the article and the Gunpowder plot society, I'm not sure where the Holbeach spelling comes from. Victuallers (talk) 16:45, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

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Drinks and a wiki chat?

G'day sydneysider - fancy a 'not quite a meetup but a few drinks' sort of thing? - We can chat about the new aussie chapter, the price of eggs and have our very own 2020 Wiki Summit! - or just sink a couple of cold ones and gass bag about the good 'ol days of wiki, when an editor could get some repsect (not a typo)! I've suggested something here so take a look and sign up if you're up for it... cheers, Privatemusings (talk) 02:28, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks for pointing it out, sorry about my stupidity for missing one step in the process. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 09:15, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Should be OK to unprotect acupuncture; problem editor blocked

Hi A.D. - the editor who was edit-warring against multiple editors at acupuncture has been blocked, with a likely topic ban to follow: User_talk:Mccready#Blocked_2. (Discussion at AN/I here.) There's no problem with just waiting till the page protection expires, just thought you'd want to know. cheers, Jim Butler (t) 18:35, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

4/28 DYK

On 28 April, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article merkhet, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Me too

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Happy Anonymous Dissident's Day!

Anonymous Dissident has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian, so I've officially declared today as Anonymous Dissident's Day! For being an excellent user who is dedicated to the English Wikipedia, enjoy being the star of the day, dear Anonymous Dissident! Signed, Dylan (chat, work, ping, sign)

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Ah, Dylan, thank you for the kind gesture. :-) —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 05:03, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Equation for happiness :)

Anonymous Dissident + =

Happy April Fools Day :) Steve Crossin :  Chat  03:22, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Heh, you too, Steve. Make some mischief for me. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 05:04, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Congrats. Keegan^talk 06:46, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Did you know that.....

The articles for the floury baker, black prince and green grocer are less than five days old...dammit, summer's over and I didn't take any photos of the damn things...Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:17, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Really? I'm surprised they're so young (the articles, that is)... —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 05:22, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Same here - I guess the sort of kids who go and keep the little buggers in boxes are not the ones who'd sit in front of a monitor all day....Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

PS: Could be a triple DYK....Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:26, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

You've got a point. Ah well, someone has to sit in front of a monitor all day. ;) —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 05:28, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

You're harming the poor guy's social life, Cas :D —Dark ^talk 09:06, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK Big Nose George

I just wanted to say "many thanks" for the tweaks and improvements you made to the article today. It got a bit hammered by vandals at DYK, but looks in good nick now! Cheers, really!-- Myosotis Scorpioides 22:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Not at all. It was a pleasure to help with such an interesting subject. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 08:19, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

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Edit Help.. please??

Hey, i'm new to wikipedia and I've just recently uploaded my article on Muscina flies. I'm currently looking for editors who can do a quick edit to help me make the page a better Wikipedia article. If you could help me edit, I would be extremely greatful. If not, than that's okay too. If it's not asking too much, could you could maybe forward this message on to other veteran Wiki users who could help me edit I would be much obliged. --Hieu87 (talk) 02:01, 3 April 2009 (UTC)Hieu87

Penguin

Congratulations! The unblock lasted 2 hours and 17 minutes before being vandalized again. [1] Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots 08:45, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I don't see the harm in giving it a try. 15 months is a long time. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 10:07, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

What's hard to figure is why so many vandals would target penguins. They're so cute and cuddly. Unless that's the reason. :( Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots 10:18, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Groan, oh well, I will be paying a bit more attention to it from now on as we're thinking of GA or FAC for it at WP: Birds so all help welcome....Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:03, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

It's been on my watch list for quite awhile, and I don't even recall why. Maybe it's because I like cute and cuddly things, like Penguins, Pamela Anderson, etc. :) Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots 12:06, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Alot of notable animals get hit alot, most of the big whales, Emperor Penguin, and lion, i guess because they get read alot by schoolkids (?) Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:23, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

That seems to be the simplest explanation. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 12:26, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Oddly enough, that same theory accounts for the frequent vandalism of Pamela's article. :) Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots 13:24, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

15 months semi-protected, 5 days unprotected, then semi-protected again. What do all these characters have against penguins? :'( Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots 10:26, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

It is indeed a mystery. Penguins are such peaceful folk. If only we could look to the penguin, many of our problems as a species could, perhaps, be averted. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 10:40, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Here's a photo of a cute and cuddly penguin, named Ping-Pong, who could have perished in the last 5 days had he not been vacationing in the Himalayas. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots 10:52, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Regarding his trek in the Himalayas, Ping-Pong said he found the climbing kind of stressful, but the weather was exhilerating. He especially liked the 3-day blizzard at the summit. Luckily, he had brought enough fish in his backpack that he could take his time and enjoy it. He also found a nifty storage compartment, apparently left there by some guy named Jack. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots 04:06, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

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Template:DYKclerk

Hey Anonymous Dissident, I just came across this template that you created back in August. It doesn't seem to be in use anymore, so I listed it at Category:Deprecated DYK templates; is this ok? I don't plan on TfDing it or anything because, even if it's not being used, I don't see any harm in keeping it sitting around (for example, if there is a renewed interest sometime in the future to use a template like this, rather than the various versions of {{DYKtick}} used now). Anyway, just wanted to check with you to make sure that is the right place to list this template. Thanks, rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 14:35, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Deleted. It's entirely redundant now, so I have no hesitation in deleting it. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 02:30, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

The Covent Garden Journal

If you need more sources, I have plenty. :) It was nice to see someone else edit the topic. A pleasant surprise. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 15:33, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind that I took the liberty to add a background section to the establishment of the journal. I have information on the content and the rest if you would like to discuss that further. I can post excerpts and the rest on the talk page if you would like. Ottava Rima (talk) 16:38, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Not at all; thanks for the added content! And yes, excerpts would be appreciated. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 00:00, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I will bring a few volumes with me tomorrow and place some quotes on the talk page. Ottava Rima (talk) 05:54, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I listed a few more sources, nothing major, but probably enough to make something comprehensive for DYK by tomorrow or so. Ottava Rima (talk) 18:36, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

If you don't mind, I'm going to put together some more paragraphs tomorrow and then nominate it for DYK (at about 15k in size). I will be listing you definitely as the primary creator. Ottava Rima (talk) 06:27, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

It's already nominated. ^^ You deserve some credit tough, I think, having written a whole section. I wonder how that can be arranged? —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 06:28, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I tend to just copy and paste it to others working on the page. Sometimes they do it automatically if you list others. Its all rather up in the air. I meant to ask you when I saw you around chat but I forgot - what made you thinking of the Journal to begin with? It was one of those things that was on my to do list after the Paper War page but I started filling out Fielding from his early stuff first. It was very nice to see it edited. Its hard to drum up support for 18th century based pages. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 06:57, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Mostly, I create articles just when I see redlinks, or a lack of an article. So my tastes in that area are eclectic and unpredictable. I think I was reading Yomangan's newest article when I saw that The Journal had no article. And there I went. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 07:02, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

What do you think to a move to The Covent-Garden Journal? The hyphen, although not current practice for Covent Garden, seems to be in the original title and most of the literature and avoids a mismatch between quoted works and our rendering, as well as the clash should we ever have an article on the 19th century publication of the same name. (The Covent Garden Tragedy should probably move too if there is agreement). Yomangani^talk 08:53, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

To which literature do you refer? In all my stuff, I've mostly seen The Covent Garden Journal. Curious. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 10:24, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Look at the extracts Ottava placed on the talk page; most use Covent-Garden, plus most of contemporaneous writing I've seen uses it hyphenated (as does the title page of The Covent Garden Tragedy). When the hyphen dropped out of favour I don't know (The Covent Garden Journal of 1810 doesn't use it, though that may have been a minor nod to differentiate it from its predecessor), but I suspect The Covent Garden Journal for Fielding's work is a rendering modernised by the authors. I don't have any burning desire to see it moved, but it might make for a tidier article if you include any of the extracts from the talk page. Yomangani^talk 10:54, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

You're quite right. I'll perform the move now, and I'll note both forms in the leading sentence. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 10:58, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Some of the sources do seem to use a hyphen in "Covent-Garden", but also for "Great-Britain", "Pall-Mall" and "Ingram-Court". Surely that was just prevailing practice at the time? If so, ought we adopt it? We would not move Great Britain to Great-Britain, or Pall Mall to Pall-Mall. (Thoroughfares later lost their hyphen and gained a capital letter - "Bow-street" and "Harrow-road" became "Bow Street" and "Harrow Road" - although the roads in these sources seem to have their majuscule already).

Or perhaps "Covent-Garden" is hyphenated because it is used as an adjective?

Also compare, for example, The Grub-Street Opera and The Covent-Garden Tragedy.

For Fowler's - as usual, somewhat idiosyncratic - take, see here. -- Testing times (talk) 17:20, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

My preference is for the hyphen (in all these cases), as we aren't talking about titles still in daily use that have evolved away from the hyphenated form as with Great Britain or even Covent Garden. We don't normally adjust titles of works for modern usage (except, I suppose, when we can't understand the archaic title). Anyway, AD has already moved it and it would be a shame to overwork the poor boy by having him move it back Yomangani^talk 17:56, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Perish the thought. But perhaps those others should be moved over their hyphenated redirects for the sake of consistency. -- Testing times (talk) 19:06, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

As long as there is a redirect from the non-hyphen version or from the hyphen version to the other, I see no problem either way (that way people can type in either). Ottava Rima (talk) 20:25, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

• I wanted to note that I added a section on the Meanwell controversy. I am thinking about putting in a section on language and writing (to talk about literary criticism, translations, etc). I would like to get the article above 25k (which can easily be done). I think that Awadewit can provide an image of the first page of the journal. I'm also going to expand on the meaning of the name, tie it into some other things, etc. Ottava Rima (talk) 20:25, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Nicely done. I was thinking: would it be appropriate at the end of the "End of publication" section to write a brief note about Fielding's later enterprises and how the illness that caused him to end The Journal's run eventually killed him to tie the article off or no? —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 00:43, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

I think that a sentence or two would easily help any reader. Ottava Rima (talk) 00:55, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

• I think that if a section is written for literary criticism (move the last paragraph from content, expand on it some with 3 or 4 more paragraphs) and a picture added for the original title page, then it would be ready for GA. I can put together some stuff while I continue working on my Ainsworth project. Ottava Rima (talk) 04:10, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Do you think it has FA potential? After all, comprehensive is comprehensive. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 04:21, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I personally avoid thinking about FAC while under 20k, but with the above plan it will be over 20k in size. If moving to FAC, I would have to look through some more articles and add some other stuff, possibly various critical commentary on the Journal and its impact, which would be another section (possibly over 25k in size). My personal library on Fielding is limited to about 40 books, of which half deal with his plays. I know where to look to find the information, however, so it shouldn't be a problem. Ottava Rima (talk) 04:31, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Category:Drive-by shootings

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Sure. I have removed category:Firearms, as I did not think it was applicable. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 06:33, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. There probably ought to be a category for shootings--i.e. violence involving firearms that may or may not have resulted in death, but that'll do for now. --Stepheng3 (talk) 07:18, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

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Something's wrong with that. Every "cite web" template has an {{{accessyear}}} at the end now. Squash Racket (talk) 08:16, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Reverted myself. I'll wait for input from Happy-melon. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 08:20, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Yup, you should revert that edit until you figure out how to fix the problem. LonelyMarble (talk) 08:20, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay then. LonelyMarble (talk) 08:21, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

• It seems to stem from an issue with the and logic operator. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 08:30, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
  • I've done the same thing another way to circumvent the problem. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 08:30, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

On a related note, do you know why I was still seeing the cached version of articles that had this error (articles that had an edit after your first edit but not after your reversion) even though in my preferences I enabled the option to disable page caching? One reason I disabled page caching was for problems like this one, does that option still not work for changes made to templates? LonelyMarble (talk) 08:42, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Nice, quick recovery. And thanks for the above note, I've just read WP:Purge. Squash Racket (talk) 08:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Right, if you use the purge action as WP:Purge explains that fixed this problem if you were still seeing it. My question is I disabled page caching in my preferences but I was still seeing this error, even though the purge action got rid of it, so it seems the disabling isn't working or something. LonelyMarble (talk) 08:50, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Purging your cache allows everything on your page and everything related to it (ie. called templates) to be refreshed, with regard to each other. If you purge, the problem should go away. You can purge a page by editing it, and then changing the &edit in the address bar to &purge, and then pressing enter. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 08:57, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the new flag!

And congratulations on your own elevation to the peerage. As our names appear together (in otherwise glorious solitude) in this issue of the signpost - I declare that this is an omen. From now on I'll be harassing you (and no one else!) for all renames, bot permissions and additional sysop flags that I need. Cheers, Paxse (talk) 11:45, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Paxse. I'm sure you'll do an excellent job as a Sysop. And please do let me know if you need anything at all. :-) Best, —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 21:11, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK favor

I've got another DYK favor for you. Well, it's a few things bundled into one. There are a few issues with the hooks in queue 6: 1) The (pictured) in the second hook shouldn't be there; 2) In the third hook, Palestinian is a disambiguation link; I think Palestine is better. While you're at the queue, there are two more tweaks: 3) In the credits, the two with "Nocturnes Op. 27" should be changed to "Nocturnes Op. 27 (Chopin)"; 4) There should be a nbsp within "100 years" . Shubinator (talk) 21:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I believe everything is done. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 21:28, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! Shubinator (talk) 21:33, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Penguin 2

Hi AD: Any chance you can reinstate the editing block you removed from Penguin? If you look before and after the block, you'll see the additional time we're having to spend removing garbage from this article again! So far, no anonymous IP has done anything but vandalize. Thanks, MeegsC | Talk 08:13, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Done. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 08:14, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! MeegsC | Talk 09:06, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I'd give you a trout but the penguins'd just eat it. Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:12, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

This photo depicts a group of vandals who were patiently waiting for the article to be unfrozen the last time. Many penguins were consumed during the 5-day feeding frenzy that erupted before the protective ice floe was re-frozen. :'( Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots 10:48, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

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Problem with usurp

I would have done this via the email this user feature, but this seems to be the only choice (see below). I cannot log in under my new username, 2, I get this error message:

A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:(SQL query hidden) from within function "User::saveSettings". MySQL returned error "1062: Duplicate entry 'Mr Senseless' for key 2 (10.0.6.22)".

All of my contributions and userspace transferred over without any problems it seems like, but I think what happened was I was editing at midnight (UTC), and the usurpation without my knowledge and some residual edits still under Mr Senseless occured after the changeover (I didn't realize this until I looked in my contributions and found them all gone.) I'm not sure if this has anything to do with it, although my old account Mr Senseless was shortly blocked thereafter for sockpuppetry with email disabled (thus why I didn't email), I'm assuming under the rightful fear of it being compromised. Can you help? 209.51.79.27 (talk) 03:18, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm not really aware of what has happened; I don't know enough about the MediaWiki software. I've tried to contact someone on #Wikimedia-tech ^connect to help solve the problem, but I'm still waiting. I'll unblock Mr. Senseless, though. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 03:32, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Bibliomaniac also told me that the username change isn't instantaneous, and sometimes errors like this can persist for several hours. I'm going to give it a day or so, and if it still isn't working I'll be in touch. 03:42, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Try now. Someone has said they've fixed it in wikimedia-tech. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 03:43, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Success, thanks so much for the help! -Senseless!... says you, says me 03:44, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Not at all. Thank User:Werdna, not me. ^^ —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 03:45, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Note about renaming

This is just a reminder. Remember after usurping to delete any resultant redirects from the usurped name. For example, before the request to rename Mr Senseless to 2 was complete, User talk:2 was created. When you renamed User:2 to User:2 (usurped), moving the talk page creates a redirect to User talk:2 (usurped). The redirect must be deleted for the usurper's user talk to be moved correctly. So User talk:Mr Senseless did not move to replace User talk:2 until I moved it myself. bibliomaniac15 03:56, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I see. Sorry, I rather forgot about the talk page. I'll keep it in mind for the future. Best, —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 04:01, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I didn't figure it out until after I did a few usurps. I think I will add it to the instructions. bibliomaniac15 04:39, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

And just to chime in, I've made the same mistake. You're in good company. ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 04:45, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

• It'd be useful if the option to delete pages were given in the renameuser interface as it is in the move interface. Oh well. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 04:47, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I think that would be a good feature, but it's best to be safe than to be sorry. I've had situations where an override would have proved to be a bad idea. bibliomaniac15 04:52, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Early RfA closure

You're right, I saw the big EXPIRED text and assumed they had ended. It's close enough in this case so I won't bother reverting, but it probably shouldn't say EXPIRED when they aren't yet over. The pink isn't really the main issue. Andre (talk) 12:07, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, they were going to pass, so there is no need to undo your action. I've contacted X!, so hopefully something can be done. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 12:10, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Lake Timsah

Nice of you to drop by and join the editing. :) Durova^Charge! 02:19, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Not at all. I very much enjoy that kind of collaborative atmosphere; look how far the article has come in the last day! :-) —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 02:20, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For your wonderful helpful additions to Lake Timsah and Lake Manzala. DurovaCharge! 02:33, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh, thank you very much, Durova. You're the one who deserves the applause, though. Both of those articles have come up from nothing in the past few days, and you've lead the effort. Well done to you! :-) —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 02:40, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

...Looks like she got here first. Thanks for the help Anon. :) Synergy 00:04, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

User name change

I wanted to bring this to your attention. User was blocked for a promotion name. The user wants to change their name. I think it would probably be best if the user just created a new account or the such (unless they would have their block logged marked). I know that you are a new Crat, and that there other Crats are around this talk page. I hope someone can talk with them and find a solution. I would hate to have someone who appears to be a decent user turned off so quickly. Their only edit was this, so I don't see any spam. If I am wrong and he does spam, well, he can be blocked then, no? Ottava Rima (talk) 02:39, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

I've unblocked and renamed him, which is what we typically do in these cases. If he does spam, he can be blocked. bibliomaniac15 04:20, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Ottava Rima (talk) 17:05, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Can you please change User:PsalmsAndMore.zic.pl's username to Jakub Główczyk? (It was requested in an email.) -- Mentifisto 13:25, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks for renaming my account so quickly :) Mugur Chandra (talk) 13:53, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Not at all. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 13:56, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

History merge

Could someone merge a history for me (Anonymous Dissident or one of the talk page watchers)? (One of the few tasks that I wanted sysop for). I would have moved two of the articles but the redirect was from 2004 and Wiki doesn't like me enough. Anyway -

• User:Ottava Rima/Burnt Norton (poem) -> here.
• User:Ottava Rima/Dry Salvages (poem) -> here.
• User:Ottava Rima/Four Quartets -> here, but this one may be more problematic and, if so, it is unnecessary.

Thanks. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 04:06, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

All done. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 04:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

It is an amazing trick. I never had much need for it over at Wikiversity, but it was fun to fool around with it a bit. Thanks. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 04:54, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Not at all. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 04:56, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Email. Ottava Rima (talk) 15:53, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Responded. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 16:19, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

usurp of Kwiki by Plzrenamethistokwiki

You've looked the wrong way round; the Kwiki account has 5000 edits on Dutch, and (s)he wants to usurp Kwiki (talk · contribs) on EN, which has 0. Pls re-check.  Chzz  ►  05:28, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

You're correct. I didn't see his reasoning because it was in the wrong place. Fixed. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 05:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Ta, no worries.  Chzz  ►  05:33, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

SUL, OK, so now filed in Wikipedia:CHU/SUL  Chzz  ►  05:38, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Many thx for prompt responses, as always, cheers,  Chzz  ►  05:40, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks alot! Kwiki (talk) 07:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

My pleasure. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 07:43, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks w/r/t my RfA

Thank you for reviewing my RfA (it was no small task to read and evaluate it, I fear) and for placing your trust in me. I'll try not to mess up... --Orlady (talk) 16:24, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

You will mess up, that is guaranteed. The question is how you handle your mistakes... ultimately, that is what separates the good and the bad admins.---I'm Spartacus! ^{NO! I'm Spartacus!} 16:58, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Words of encouragement. Sword of Damocles? :P Ottava Rima (talk) 17:29, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Heads up

Saw this coming a mile away... Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard#Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Orlady. EVula // talk // ☯ // 18:45, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 05:08, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

And thank you for the statement; I was waiting to hear from you before posting my thoughts on the matter. Good call. EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:47, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for The Covent-Garden Journal

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last call for the meetup tonight in Sydney

G'day Sydneysiders :-) - this is just a 'last call' note to let you know that the meetup tonight at the belgian beer cafe. This meetup coincides with the end of an 'unlocking IP' conference, and various folk from creative commons, and other interested parties are hoping to come along, so it should be an interesting and rewarding meet - plus Casliber assures us the beer is fantastic :-) - it's an 'all ages' venue, and I hope to see you there! best, Privatemusings (talk) 02:48, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Socks 01 - Wwesocks

I created an account, Socks 01 on September 10 2006. In late 2007 I wanted to change my name to Wwesocks so I created a new account, not realising that you can change your username. Is it possible that you could maybe merge Socks 01 with Wwesocks? Then my edits before December 2007 will be in Wwesocks contributions. Also that would mean that my account, Wwesocks would show up as being created in September 2006, just like when you rename an account. This would be really appreciated if possible. Thanks, wwesocks^sign 07:38, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm afraid that contribution merges are not technically feasible. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 13:10, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Could you at least make Wwesocks show up as being created in September 2006, or as that not possible also? wwesocks^sign 22:46, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Renames

You're so good and efficient I haven't had the opportunity to help out in this way yet -- Avi (talk) 15:13, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

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Renaming on wikispecies

Hello... err... Anonymous :-)

I have made renaming requests on the projects on which I have made at least one contribution. Otherwise, it would a bit overwhelming (by automatically logging in, I have created the account on about 222 projects of the Foundation, 43 only of which have contributions). My previous username is locked on these projects, and as soon as I log on them with my new username, a new one will automatically be created. Therefore, I do not see why it would be necessary. And afaik, I have not made any contribution to wikispecies. Thank you for your help! Litlok (talk) 15:42, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

No problem. I just thought it might be convenient for you if you wanted to do it while I was around, since I noticed your crosswiki requests. Best, —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 15:43, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Hiya and thanks!

Thanks, first off, for the closure and well wishes! I wanted to double check on whether or not I'm supposed to have been formalized as an admin yet though. I don't seem to be seeing the admin function tabs listed at the new admins' school, and my user rights don't seem to list anything. Please forgive me for getting up on you so quickly, but it's no emergency or big concern. - Vianello (Talk) 03:10, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I am on the list of admins though, so I'm not sure what's up. If it's just a process still in progress, I apologize and I don't mean to sound like I want to rush you. I'd just sooner nothing fell through the cracks and all! - Vianello (Talk) 03:11, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Turns out I accidentally promoted User:Vianallo because the promotion link on the RfA was wrong and preloaded the wrong username. I've contacted a Steward, desysoped Vianallo and promoted Vianello. You're all good. :) —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 03:19, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

You WHAT?! How could you? Vianallo has been busting his hump for the sake of this project for nigh-on... okay I can't really keep this joke going, but hey, thank you very much! Everything seems to be working fine now. Take it easy, amigo. - Vianello (Talk) 03:26, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

I've just looked through the history of the RfA and I noticed that 212.85.12.211 changed the link to Vianallo. The account "Vianallo" was created two minutes earlier. I think that Vianallo (talk · contribs) probably knew about the RfA when he created his account because he redirected his user and talk pages to Vianello's ones. GT5162 ^{(我的对话页)} 16:54, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Weird. Well, it's all straightened out, I hope. I went ahead and deleted the redirects and posted it to UAA. I felt in my rights to do the deletions, but I'd rather not go and do a block or anything myself. Too much of a COI there. - Vianello (Talk) 01:18, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Small update: Another admin responded to the UAA by blocking the account in question indefinitely. Seems a reasonable response to me. Anyway, just FYI. - Vianello (Talk) 01:36, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Twilight rename guy

I didn't mean to come off dismissive or anything, I'm glad you didn't take offense. Personally I feel like renames should mostly be processed and discretion should be rarely used when the reason is something sort of odd or vague ("I like this better" and that type of thing). We want to make processes as easy for users as possible, and stopping everyone who wants a real name is another example of clogging it up and slowing it down. Andre (talk) 21:46, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

User rename hiccup?

You recently helped User:Mathcool10 to usurp User:MC10, but the user talk page seems not to have been moved with it, leading to this request at WP:RM. Isn't this supposed to happen automatically? I've removed the request for now, since I'm not a bureaucrat, I'm not familiar with the usurp process, and I don't want to unwittingly screw something up. Cheers,--Aervanath (talk) 04:23, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I've moved it. AD, remember when usurping to delete any redirects to the usurped name. For example, in this case you should have deleted the redirect you created to User talk:MC10 (usurped) on User talk:MC10 after the usurp because renaming does not override the old page. When you renamed, it should have also said somewhere that "User talk:MC10 exists and cannot be overwritten." bibliomaniac15 The annual review... 04:44, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Biblio, I deleted the most of those redirects. There were so many of them; see my deletion log. It just seems I missed the user talk one. Thanks for fixing that. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 05:48, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

It's really easy to miss that "Talk:Pagename exists and cannot be overwritten" message; tucked away as it is down at the bottom of the screen. I'd been puttering around WP:RM for a couple months before someone pointed out to me that I'd moved a page and somehow not managed to move the talk page. Then I got to enjoy sifting through my move log trying to find any talk pages I hadn't moved; lots of fun! Anyway, thanks for taking care of that, you guys. Cheers,--Aervanath (talk) 16:37, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Usually the user talk is a prime suspect to being left behind, so I always check for it first. bibliomaniac15 The annual review... 18:30, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the rename

Much appreciated. -Lisa (talk) 15:53, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Fast, friendly, and accurate - thanks so much. - 2over0 (formerly Eldereft) (cont.) 20:27, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Quark

After reviewing this article, I am happy to say that it is a definite pass. It meets all the criteria without question. Keep up the good work, and I hope to see this as a FA soon. End of yarn (talk) 21:20, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

This pass has been reverted as End of yarn is a brand new editor with a new account and has no basis to claim it passes GA. The article is still at GAN. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 21:31, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

SU(3)s

Hi, some clarification: When you talk about quarks, there are two SU(3)s. One is a global SU(3) that is used for classifying quarks according to flavour - at least as long as you look only at u, d and s quarks. For these quarks, you get, for instance, baryons in the 8-dimensional adjoint representation (N, P, Sigma, Lambda, Xi) and mesons in another octet. This is the eight-fold way stuff. In Gell-Mann's classification "very strong interactions" do not break the SU(3), "medium-strong interactions" do.

All this works as elementary group theory: for instance, baryons have three quarks, and if you "multiply" the basic representation (3) three times, you get a sum of representations: 10 plus 8 plus 8 plus 1.

The colour SU(3) is something completely different. Here, the quarks are again elementary, and the adjoint representation is what the 8 gluons are in. This symmetry is local, and it's used to construct the gauge theory.

So yes, I mean the section needs a complete re-write. It's about color charge, so it should recount the basic properties of the colour SU(3). The statements in the same paragraph that, instead, describe to the flavour SU(3) (Gell-Mann and Ne'eman, baryon decuplets and octets) should go into a different section, namely one about quark flavours. (The section where the isospin is explained - cf. my other comment!) The current version conflates the two different SU(3)s, which is just wrong. Markus Poessel (talk) 21:52, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Homer's Odyssey

You say that 19/20 people who go to the page are actually looking for the poem. Can I please see the statistics that back this statement up? -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 14:02, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, seeing as how the Simpsons was also referring to the actual work, there is no real need to provide stats on it. Ottava Rima (talk) 14:05, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes there is. The user's logic for moving the page was that everyone who visited there was looking for something else. When you make a statement like that, you should actually have something to back it up. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 14:09, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I just gave you a legitimate justification that nullifies any reverting of the move. The Simpson's title is referential to another page. It is referential to a famous title ("Homer's Odyssey"). There is no other way to work it here. Ottava Rima (talk) 14:20, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

• No, I don't have statistics. It's common sense: the first extant work of Western literature vs. one of several hundred episodes of a television show. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 14:19, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
  • So, do you plan on going through and fixing all of the Simpsons-related Homer's Odyssey links? Since they now redirect to a completely different page, it seems only fair that you fix them. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 14:27, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
    • I'll make sure to do it tomorrow. It's quite late here, and I honestly doubt if I've the diligence right at the present to do it. Thanks, —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 14:33, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
      • How the hell did you get to be a bureaucrat? You back up your statements with crap you made up and you don't even make an effort to fix links to a page that you redirected. That doesn't really seem like the kind of behaviour that should be associated with the position. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 14:37, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
        • He said he'd do it tomorrow. While that's obviously not ideal, it did not need a response like that, Scorpion. Please leave your ad hominem arguments away from here. I also agree with AnonDiss/Ottava (obviously). Odyssey is much more significantly important than some random episode from a cartoon (not a very good episode at that either). Sorry for butting in, but I think questioning AnonDiss's ability to be a bcrat was totally rude and unnecessary. Majorly talk 14:45, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
          • In wiki-speak, "I'll make sure to do it tomorrow" means, "I'm making an excuse so you'll go away and I don't have to do it." I'll just do it myself. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 14:48, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
            • You're not particularly assuming good faith here. It is, in fact, 1 am where I am; and I have school tomorrow. The encyclopedia will not fall apart in the 15 hours (maximum) during which these redirects are not repaired. I can't be on Wikipedia all the time, and we're not talking about anything groundbreaking here. Just a few redirects. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 14:57, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for flagging approved bots! Your bureaucratic super-mop work is appreciated. – Quadell ^(talk) 13:33, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Not at all. Just glad I can be of assistance. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 13:34, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

NZ

I would have no idea what "NZ" would mean. It's not used like "USA" and "UK". I think "N. Zealand" leaves one knowing what country is being discussed. Is this just me? hmwithτ 14:11, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I'd not be comfortable saying that it is just you; but, for me, over here in Australia, it's an abbreviation I hear frequently in reference to the country. Here, it is like UK, or USA. But we're quite strange and remote. ;-) —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 14:14, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Haha, I see. People in North America (where the flu is doing the most damage) probably haven't heard of it. You know we silly US-centrists. :P But I'll take your word for it, though, and assume that no one else will be confused. I'm sure it's fine. hmwithτ 14:18, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I've no qualms if you want to revert it. If you really think N. Zealand would be better for most folk, it should be reinstated. I'll leave it with you. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 14:22, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

unified log-in

I will like to usurp the ॐ account since it is no longer used by its user (he/she left).--Anagami (talk) 05:58, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Please see WP:USURP. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 13:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

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I'm using a somewhat modified version of your header because I agree with everything you said, and have a limited knowledge of wikitext. I wanted to make sure you were fine with it. (I'm attributing you at the moment). Regards, NativeForeigner ^Talk/_Contribs/^Vote! 04:58, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't mind at all. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 05:04, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

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notability discussion [2]

First of all, "Sal is indeed great" it irrelevant; and, "his notability is tied completely to the academy" is untrue. He has 3 degrees from MIT and an MBA from Harvard. He has served as a pundit at least 3 times for a major news agency (CNN and two others that I'm only 95% certain of) giving analysis of various bailout plans. He has been an independent subject of a BBC special on learning and he has been an independent subject on local & state media (california news programs). I am a retired wikipedian and have full understanding of WP:NOTE. Unless you object, I plan to remove the merge tags which you inadequately put on the pages. If you check your edits to both pages, only one of the tags links to the relevant discussion (which is more of a sentence than a discussion). It really upsets people who have worked on the pages to see an admin slap on a tag which if you used more time and more thought, you would realize that it was probably an unfortunate error. Wiki-drama gets started by things such as this. If you don't object, I plan to remove the tag later this month and try to throw up a few references & citations supporting Sal Khan's independent notability. For example, on March 26th 2010, he was the subject of a piece called "making a difference" which is a local/state reliable source. I am a college student and I still rely heavily on Wikipedia to supplement my learning; so, please forgive me if I still make a few compulsive edits. That connection one will always have with the "edit this page" button is not just a sign you are a Wikiholic, it is a lesson of how to forever live your life after you move on from Wikipedia. ;) Cheers, 66.231.146.7 (talk) 02:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Bureaucrat, eh? I thought you were just an admin. This was probably just a careless edit. If you trust my integrity, I'll just remove the tags in a day or two. Sal is definitely notable, although it obviously puts the burden of proof on others by making them back it up with refs/cites and I'm lazy. Without the refs/cites, and if you are not from US, then how are you to know he is notable if the people of the page don't establish notability? It's a catch 22 because, lol, I don't actually want to start adding sources to a page if I am supposedly retired. Anyways, the cliffnotes version of this TL;DR is that it sucks being a bureaucrat because it sucks caring about Wikipedia; and, hopefully all bureaucrats care about wikipedia. I trust the RFB process as I have monitored a couple admins who I direly opposed. (Oh! In fact, you opposed him too at his RFB in 2009!) Obviously, I don't want to out his name; but, you need all the moral support you can get to avoid burnout. Good luck in your WP endeavors. It takes a certain type of tenacity best summed up by Theodore Roosevelt:

"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."

Good luck and I hope there are enough veterans in the core community to keep this encyclopedia from becoming a mountain of creep or a pile of OR, POV, etc... It certainly takes a unique trait which I can't really put my finger on. I'm a thriving student who is en route to going to a pretty decent med school in a couple years. It's kinda weird how you can be a great doctor, great lawyer, or great whatever; but, some people just don't have what it takes to survive the insane dynamics of Wikipedia. I personally blame it on being a guy. Wikipedia is more of an art rather than a science, and it is more of a social experiment rather than an internet encyclopedia, hehe... /rant. Anyways, I didn't mean for my first post to come across as vitriol or denigration. Nothing is worse than a talk page where everyone dumps off their negativity. I hope that my inner meta-wikipedian still subtly emanates that inspiring exuberance which is always needed even if people don't always ask. Keep doing your best, Anonymous_Dissident! 66.231.146.7 (talk) 02:59, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Having degrees is not sufficient for notability, and nor is serving as a pundit on the news. Everything else you cite ('independent subject of a BBC special on learning ... the subject of a piece called "making a difference" ') relates directly to his involvement with the Khan Academy. Thus, I reject your claim that Khan possesses independent notability, and my objection to his biography remains. As is only proper, I will not execute the merge in the absence of consensus; and, for similar reasons, I ask that you do not remove the merge proposal. Cheers, —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 04:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

• Here it says "Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material." and I perused that page in great detail before I made my first post. Additionally, the stuff about CNN and MIT enhances the acceptability of Salman Khan's notability. (see the top of the WP:NOTE page again where it says "Determining notability does not necessarily depend on things like fame, importance, or the popularity of a topic—although those may enhance the acceptability of a subject that meets the guidelines explained below.") I am not trying to be nitpicky--just trying to point out that he is not an average Joe to begin with. If he was merely an outside consultant to Khan Academy rather than its creator, he still garners coverage about him the individual. Khan academy acts as a "attention beacon" toward Salman Khan; and, I would agree with you that Salman Khan would most likely not be notable if it weren't for his creation of Khan Academy. Margaret Mitchell would not have been notable if she didn't write gone with the wind. What I am asking you is do we both agree that Salman Khan must surpass his own notability threshold? I believe Salman Khan is notable (my subjective opinion) however I believe that he objectively meets the general notability guidelines as I have again carefully examined the WP:NOTE page and still respectfully disagree. The BBC special on learning coupled with a couple of lesser state/local sources (e.g. newspaper, magazine, web-news) that give him more than a passing blurb should clearly suffice for his notability.
• Secondly, when you made this edit, the tag does not link to a discussion. It reduces half of the possible traffic because you created two tags where editors/readers should be directed to a discussion. (In fact, neither tag links to "the discussion" when you click (discuss) on either tag.)
• In summary, I don't think there is any point of taking this discussion to either page. Nobody has said anything since you put the tags up in March. You and me are probably the only ones interested in the merge-or-separate debate. I have looked at both articles; and, I believe that the suggested merge is grudgingly acceptable. Sorry that you had to deal with a perfectionist. In a few days, I'll personally merge the articles myself and incorporate Salman Khan (educator) into Khan Academy. I think I cared more about being right than I cared about Wikipedia. It's embarrassing for me to confess that my ego is attached to my anon IP address! I used to think my problem with Wikipedia was that I cared about what everyone else thought of me (i.e. wanted my username to reflect who I am in the meatworld). At least I learned a lesson from this--I really thought I knew the reason I quit wikipedia but I guess the reason was more complicated. I learned a lesson; you will get the articles merged your way for free by a stranger in a few days. win/win and cheers, 66.231.146.7 (talk) 12:09, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your help and willingness to discuss the matter. It's a shame you've departed; thoughtful people who have genuine care for the encyclopedia are the most important cogs in the machine. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 12:34, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Request

Hi, I am requesting a deleted talk-page to be posted on my user-page and was wondering if you could be of assistance (because you are sysop and as far as I know only sysop can view deleted pages). If you do have the time, then the content I'm after is the bit about the difference between freestyle and techstyle...though the whole talkpage could be useful. The deleted article in question is Technical flatground skateboarding.

Thanks in advance, if you can be bothered with it --Fresh Start (talk) 05:29, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello. Your request seemed reasonable, so I created User:False Positive CLEANSTART/Technical flatground skateboarding. Sorry for the delay. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 15:13, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

thanks, appreciate it --Fresh Start (talk) 03:38, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

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Hello! This is an article that you created. There is a very puzzling (at least to me) statement in it - that a commander [Lange] lost the command because he "lost the boat", but another commander then took over the boat. This goes back (though the exact wording has changed) to your original creation. Could you take a look and clarify?

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