User talk:AndySCO

April 2010

Welcome and thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test on the page Battle of the Bogside worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment further, please use the sandbox instead. Thank you.

The city is known as Derry on Wikipedia not by any other name, see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Ireland-related articles). O Fenian (talk) 14:54, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Community restrictions

The article Battle of the Bogside, along with other articles relating to The Troubles, is currently subject to active arbitration remedies, as laid out during a previous Arbitration Enforcement case that closed in October 2007, and was amended by community consensus in October 2008. The current restrictions are:

All editors on Troubles-related articles are directed to get the advice of neutral parties via means such as outside opinions.
All articles related to The Troubles, defined as: any article that could be reasonably construed as being related to The Troubles, Irish nationalism, and British nationalism in relation to Ireland falls under WP:1RR (one revert per editor per article per day). When in doubt, assume it is related.
- Clear vandalism, or edits by anonymous IP editors, may be reverted without penalty
Editors who violate this 1RR restriction may be blocked without warning by any uninvolved administrator, even on a first offense.

If you are a new editor, or an editor unfamiliar with the situation, please follow the guidelines laid out in the above link. If you are unsure if your edit is appropriate, discuss it on this talk page first.

To simplify this, if you amend the article back to say L/Derry within 24 hours of your last edit you may be blocked from editing. O Fenian (talk) 14:57, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I should have explained that as this edit is also a revert, and as you have reverted twice within a 24 hour period you are in breach of community restrictions. To avoid being reported and possibly blocked from editing, please self-revert your latest edit back to this version of the article. Thank you. O Fenian (talk) 15:59, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I should have explained. "Comhaontú Aoine an Chéasta", or the Good Friday Agreement ratified into the constitution of the Irish Republic and British statute recognises the status of the North East of the island of Ireland as "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". You are incorrect, I have changed the city name to "Londonderry" once. Following the style guide I then included the county which is recognised as "County Londonderry" by wikipedia. As a reasonable compromise, the city name is unchanged, but the recognised name of our country is included as the Country. "Northern Ireland" may be mistaken by persons not originating in the British Isles as being a geographical designation of an area of the country occupying the rest of the island known as "The Republic of Ireland". This is not the case and this version is now quite correct. Please feel free to report this if you feel it so necessary - as it only reflects fact rather than your attempt to distort the truth. I will be quite happy to report it for you. Thanks.

AndySCO (talk) 16:07, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am not incorrect. That edit at 14:52 was your first revert, and that edit at 15:57 was your second revert. ~~So I ask you again to self-revert your breach of the community restrictions.~~ Never mind, has been reverted. I ask you to respect the community restrictions and refrain from further reverting, or you may be blocked from editing. O Fenian (talk) 16:12, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

These contain quite different references. I refer you to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(Ireland-related_articles) - which shows the use of "County Londonderry". Perhaps it would be acceptable for a Protestant to use "Blackpool, Southern Ireland" rather than "Dublin, Ireland". [The correct Irish - English translation]. I suggest you do not threaten me. I am quite happy to report it myself. You yourself have made more than one reversion - and yours are being used for political purposes - other than my first (made in good faith), mine are exactly correct. Or do you deny Londonderry is part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland?

AndySCO (talk) 16:22, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have made one revert, since "edits by anonymous IP editors, may be reverted without penalty". O Fenian (talk) 16:23, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That doesn't answer the question. Do you claim that the City of Londonderry is not in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland? If so, why do you claim it - I am happy to footnote the Good Friday Agreement and the Royal Charter of the City, Act of Union 1800 and the Anglo-Irish Treaty on 1921, if you wish. If you claim it is not, is this not your attempt at using Wikipedia to show support for your republican political cause rather than impartial recording of knowledge - as is evidenced by your choice of screen-name. I have already stated - please feel free to report me - the fact you keep threatening to do so rather than doing it actually shows you won't because you ken you have no case. If you do not - I will.

AndySCO (talk) 16:28, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

When you ask a question that is directly related to the improvement of an article I will answer it, until then I have no intention of involving myself in a pointless debate. Many before you have come to Wikipedia to "right great wrongs" relating to Northern Ireland and used similarly inflammatory rhetoric, and they do not last long here. O Fenian (talk) 16:34, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am not here to "right great wrongs", that was done when the Republic of Ireland signed the Good Friday Agreement recognising NI as a part of the UK. My country's flag flies above Northern Ireland, the Irish Republic does not claim Northern Ireland (see article 2 of the Irish Constitution). - I am using the mountain of evidence which can be footnoted - which is the basis of an encyclopedia. Your actions damage the integrity of wikipedia - as it is being filled with historical innaccuracies.

AndySCO (talk) 16:37, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thankfully, not every wiki project out there has this bizarre policy on the name of Londonderry. Howard Alexander (talk) 13:47, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]