User talk:Amire80/Archive August 2011 - March 2013

Autograph Uploads

Dear Amire80, I uploaded more than 300 autographs on the Wiki Commons ( http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Autographs ). The autographs which I uploaded include:

• David Ben Gurion.
• Niels Bohr
• Ernest Hemingway
• Dr John C Mather
• T S Eliot
• Pearl S Buck
• King Hussain of Jordan
• Faiz Ahmed Faiz
• Ho Chi Minh
• Arundhati Roy
• Mark Tully
• Milton Friedman
• P G Wodehouse
• Angela Merkel
• C V Raman
• Sirimavo Bandaranaike
• Kofi Annan
• Amitabh Bachchan
• Elizabeth Taylor
• Richard Burton
• Betrand Russel
• Host of celebrities from India / Asia and the world

In this connection, I request you or Wikipedians in your contact to make effective use of these uploads. Regards, Hindustanilanguage (talk) 07:13, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Двухфальфавитность в AzWikipedia

Здраствуйте Aмир. Вы можете помочь нам с двухальфавитностью в AzWikipedia. У нас два альфавита (арабский и латыница). Нам очен хотелось бы чтобы у нась было зеркальное отобрежения как в сербской вики (но никак не казахский). Кто может помочь. Заранее благодарю. --N KOzi^Talk 05:12, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Ответил на meta:User talk:Amire80. Пусть разговор продолжается там. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 05:38, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Artificial scripts used in natural languages

Category:Artificial scripts used in natural languages, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 19:54, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Why

Are you deleting the facts I added to the Israel page? Why are you adding misinformation as well? There are several nations in the region with higher press freedom than Israel, like Cyprus. How can you rationalize vague comparisons of literecy rates to the fact Israel has a literacy rate of 96.9% ? Public awareness (talk) 07:43, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Cyprus is grouped with Europe in the RSF report.

I didn't write anything about literacy. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 07:50, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

You undid most of my work, I wrote about literacy by adding solid numbers, and you undid it, why? If you really wanted to keep the comparisons to inappropriate groups thats different, but deleting most of my writing, why?

what does it matter how the RWB categorizes? If they split north and south america would Panama not be in the region of Columbia anymore, of course not, Cyprus is a short boat ride from Israel, it's the same region. Public awareness (talk) 08:00, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

About RWB: If we are talking about countries according to a certain report, it makes sense to group them according to the same report.

About the other things: I checked it again, and apparently it was a strange edit conflict. The software should have prevented it, but i was allowed to save it. I reverted the other edits i made - sorry about that. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 08:09, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I see, I didn't know you could accidently undo others works like that, but I do see how it could happen with multiple people editing at the same time.

For the region part, it now says "in the region" which means in the area, relative proximity, if you wanted to go by RWB's regions than I think you should change it to get this across by writing "in the Middle East" or "in the Middle East and North Africa". Public awareness (talk) 08:21, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

• Public awareness has now been blocked indefinitely as a sock of the banned editor User:Passionless.--Epeefleche (talk) 22:21, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism

This user Bbb23 is vandalizing the wickipidia page of Adriana Ferreyr. He has taken off a number of reliable references one by one and then put the page up for deletion for a lack of referenceces. He has also deleted the talk page that an administrator have created for discussion of the page. Best, Jane. — by Jane77765 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jane77765 (talk • contribs) 23:05, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Red Link Recovery

Hello. As a Russian-speaking WikiGnome, I'd like to solicit your help in testing a new tool. For a few years now, the Red Link Recovery Project has been using the Red Link Recovery Live tool to track down and fix unnecessarily red links in articles. Recently, the tool has been expanded to work on non-English Wikipedias. A small set of suggested fixes for red-links on the Russian-language Wikipedia have been prepared and I'm hoping to interest some Russian-language speakers (such as yourself) to work through them.

If you are interested, please visit http://toolserver.org/~tb/RLRL/quick.php?lang=ru. Each time you refresh the page you'll be presented with three new suggested fixes. I'll be happy to answer any questions on the tools talk page. - TB (talk) 21:14, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the invitation! I'm very glad to see the tool being adapted to other languages.

I'm horribly busy this month, but i'll do my best to try it in the coming days. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 21:17, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Armon HaNetziv

Sorry, but this is the correct spelling. The vowel of the "n" is a "shva", if that means anything to you. Debresser (talk) 05:41, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

That means that i made a fadikha :) --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 05:47, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Not really, because the mistake is very widespread, and most English online resources use the incorrect spelling. Debresser (talk) 05:49, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but i have a B.A. in Hebrew, so that is still a major fadikha. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 05:51, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

In that case, yes. :) Compare "nehag" (driver), not "nahag", as you can hear often in busses. Actually, it is only logical that the "shva", which is a silent sound, should sound like an "a". This is the reason we historically have the so called "hataf". Debresser (talk) 05:55, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Nehag is actually segol, like in pekham (נֶהָג‎, פֶּחָם).

As for natziv, i thought that the root is יצב and that the tz has a dagesh, but i was wrong. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 06:04, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

You are right about the segol. So I was wrong also. :) Makes sense, the segol I mean. So in status constructus (smikhut) it is "nahag autobus". Thanks, Debresser (talk) 06:07, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

James Snyder is safe again, can you help me remove whatever is there now thanks Drkup(IMJ) (talk) 17:11, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

So, is there going to be explicit permission for the copy/paste of James S. Snyder? We get lots of good-faith copyright violations: that doesn't meant that they may remain on Wikipedia in violation of their restrictions and ours. I agree that the subject is notable, and that there should be an article, but it's not too much to ask that it be written and sourced in compliance with WP requirements. Acroterion (talk) 19:53, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

You are wrong to assume that this is a copyright violation. Please trust me that i can tell a good faith copyright violation from a good faith copyright clearance misunderstanding. This is the second case.

It is the night now where Drkup lives. Please wait a few hours. Everything will be cleared. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 21:45, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm aware of the time issue and understand: it was not, however, clear to me that permission was going to be provided, so I wanted to make sure. I note that the apparently copyrighted material has been removed in the interim and that the article has been put into more encyclopedic form. Acroterion (talk) 22:14, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

I would like to contest the actions of a robot - what do I do?

I don't agree that a video artist and a filmmaker are the same thing (I also asked Bgwhite)

(diff | hist) . . mb Category:Israeli video artists‎; 21:57 . . (+1) . . Cydebot (talk | contribs)‎ (Robot - Speedily moving category Israeli Filmakers to Category:Israeli filmmakers per CFDS.) Drkup(IMJ) (talk) 05:19, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Унификация заглавной стр. на Мете

Привет! Обрати, пожалуйста, внимание, на мою просьбу вот здесь. --Kaganer (talk) 06:46, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Joseph Serchuk

Hola, grazas pola túa nota na Galipedia, o que pasa é que para confirmar a relevancia deste artigo necesitaríamos referencias de "calidade" que confirmaran a información que contén. Se nos pudeses axudar con iso poderíamos tomar unha decisión máis clara (copia da mensaxe deixada na Galipedia). Saludos, --Elisardojm (talk) 23:10, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

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Please take a look

Hi Amir, I have been requested to redo the texts on Snyders page Can you help me out here, as this text is the one the director requested to post thanks Drkup(IMJ) (talk) 08:44, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Vagobot

Hi, Amir E. Aharoni. On dv.wikipedia not a standart bot policy.So I cannot request for status on Meta. where I can request for bot status on dv.viki? You can help me? Best regards, Vago (talk) 10:42, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

deleted artical

I posted an article how to remmeber the planets, however it has been deleted. please could you tell me the reason for this.

thankyou. --Oscar45596524 (talk) 08:10, 22 December 2011 (UTC)oscar45596524

What is the title of the article? I can't see that you posted anything like that. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 15:19, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Luxury Car (film)

there is a page called Luxury Car (film), it has some links on that page that have no pages liked to it. please may you fix it please. please reply on my talk page thankyou.

08:02, 5 February 2012 (UTC)oscar45596524 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oscar45596524 (talk • contribs)

In Wikipedia we reply on the same talk page on which the conversation started, so i'll reply here.

I don't understand which links are you talking about. The links on that page are quite normal. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 15:22, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview

Dear Amire80,

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Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 07:03, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your message.

I replied by email. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 10:16, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

the Masry Arabic?

Can you please clarify to me why did wikipedia language committee approved a dialect as a language though the Masry or Masri language is the old language of Egypt? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albahttiti (talk • contribs) 08:35, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

The language committee's policy is to recognize as eligible languages that are listed in the ISO 639 standard as living languages. This language is recognized as such, see the entry for Egyptian Arabic in Ethnologue, which is essentially the ISO 639 directory. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 08:43, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikimania 2012

Hi, I wonder whether you can take a look at my abstract at Wikimania 2012 and if my article is selected, I would like to invite you for my talk (I have no idea about the fate of my paper at present :) )--C.R.Selvakumar (talk) 23:37, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Hararit for deletion

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A barnstar for you!

The Teamwork Barnstar. --Pine^(talk) 07:53, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you :) --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 08:01, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

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Башкирская Википедия

Ваши сообщения в Башкирской Википедии прочитал. Поздно, потому что был деревне, "отключался" от внешнего мира и "заряжался" природной энергией. Взгляните на ответы, пожалуйста. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Рөстәм Нурыев (talk • contribs) 15:19, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Ваше имя на башкирском языке

Доброе время суток, Амир. При мероприятих по популиризации Викимедии проектов в целом, и Википедии в частности мы рассказываем про Вас. В столичной (уфимской) газете на башкирском языке вышла статья-интервью, где Ваше имя воспроизвили на башкирском. Сегодня я начал писать новую статью для другой газеты и тоже хочу упоминать Вас. И задумался. Правильно ли мы воспроизводим Ваше имя полностью? Хочу у Вас спросить совета. Как лучше писать? На английском Вы пишете Amir Aharoni и Amir E. Aharoni, на русском Амир Элиша Аарони. Из нашего рассказа башкирская газета "Киске Өфө" воспроизвела как Әмир Элиша Аһарани. На мой взгляд, на башкирском языке должно быть Әмир Әлишә Аһарони или Әһәрони. По поводу Әмир так должно быть, такое имя у нас встречается. Но вот более древние имена Әлишә и Әһәр не встречал. Моего деда на седьмом колене (конец XVIII - начало XIX века) звали Әликәй. Помоги нам и поправь нас, пожалуйста. --Рөстәм Нурыев (talk) 11:10, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Ответил здесь. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 13:48, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

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Your name in Punjabi

Is your name's pronunciation as follows (using IPA for English):

Amir = /ə m iː r/

Aharoni = /ə hɑː ro n iː/

Elisha = /eɪ l iː ʃ ɑː/

or tell me using the WP:IPAE, it would be the best for me to understand. Please read the examples at WP:IPAE carefully and tell me. Tari Buttar (talk) 12:13, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

My name is Hebrew, not English.

It goes like this: Hebrew pronunciation: [amiɾ eliʃa ahaɾoni].

It's almost the same as in the regular alphabet. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 12:25, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

As I understand. Your name should be, ਅਮੀਰ ਅਲੀਸ਼ਾ ਅਹਾਰੋਨੀ, according to the pronunciation: "ameer aleesha ahaaroni" where "ee" for the sound like letter E, "a" for the sound like in the According, "aa" for the sound like in Aardwolf or long A as ⟨á⟩ in latin , o like the letter O itself, and "ni" for nee (ee = E). Tell me if any problem understanding. Tari Buttar (talk) 15:28, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Please help (high priority)

Please please please help. I've done and qualified for the rally since 15 or 16 August but I can't sign on the page as it's too long for me as I'm on mobile. I didn't signed before as I thought that it is to be after the rally is over. But now I can't sign for being qualified. I want to sign with, Please transfer my cut to me. I can edit if there is a section but if I edit the current page the bottom text 'll be lost as my mobile's edit box/window only allows me to have 5000 characters. Please help by cutting the page into sections or sign in with my name there. I've signed anyway but the page lost previous text but I have on option sorry. Please help. Tari Buttar (talk) 15:18, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Translatewiki

Please check and help what I've asked on translatewiki. Tari Buttar (talk) 00:18, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Where did you ask it? --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 07:12, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh, just on my talk page there or thread or whatever it called; where we were discussing later; where you told me about the advanced translations. Tari Buttar (talk) 16:15, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

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Hafan on cy

Please see here. Thanks. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 05:51, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

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Typing in Kashmiri

Hello Amir Elisha Aharoni, I have seen that you help language support on wikimedia projects and I was wondering if you could create a way to type Kashmiri because the Kashmiri language can't rely on the current Devanagari typing software that is used in the Hindi, Marathi, Nepali wikipedias use because Kashmiri has special distinct sounds that these languages don't have, for these sounds there are new letters that have been introduced into the Devanagari script, and I can't find a way to type them. The same goes with the Persio-Arabic script, the special sounds have special letters as well and I can't find a way to type them. Instead of deleting half the articles on ks.wikipedia.org because they are made up of one word and a file, I want to develop the articles so could you please help concerning this matter or please direct me to somebody who can? Thank you so much! --Farah Desai Khan^Talk 13:44, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi Farah!

Sorry for taking so long to reply - I was traveling.

I am very happy that you are asking me about this! I was looking for somebody who can help us with Kashmiri language support for a long time and couldn't find anybody.

To add support for special Kashmiri in our Devanagari and Arabic keyboard layouts, please send me all the special characters that you need to my email: amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il . --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 19:54, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for the reply, I'll be e-mailing those to you shortly. Recently I've been running around Meta-wiki looking for people to help me with ks.wp, I need help on how to translate interface, to change the logo of the wiki and more, if you can help me, kindly you register on ks.wp so we can discuss issues relating to that wiki on that wiki. --Farah Desai^Talk 16:42, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Спрятанные страницы

Здравствуйте, Амир. Наверное помните меня из азербайджанской Википедии, из Алматы. Обращаюсь к Вам с одной просьбой. Тут такая проблема у нас в азербайджанской Викитеке. Дело в том, что у нас также есть проект "Викиребёнок". И есть довольно долгое время. После того, как некоторые участники провели операции по переименованию (подробнее тут), почти все страницы проекта "Викиребёнок" были спрятаны. Смотрите. В категории ссылки не красные, а поиск показывает, что эти страницы не только есть, но ещё и полные (с картинками и пр.). Однако, пройдя по ссылке, ничего не видно. Я не знаю к кому ещё обратиться. Возможно Вы знаете, что произошло? --Interfase (talk) 19:30, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Очень странно.

Попробую обратится к экспертам. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 19:38, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Обратился в багзиллу. --Interfase (talk) 19:55, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Кажется, проблему разрешили. Но спасибо, что откликнулись. --Interfase (talk) 07:12, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

segnalate edit war

Hello, can you do for me? This user replaces all images with other images of German cars that he likes (it's German) and even though I have canceled and advised him sparked edit war. See here please [2] thank you --93.50.115.250 (talk) 11:00, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Just for the record: The IP 93.50.115.250 belongs to the User:Pava who has a record of edit-warring, insulting, vandalism, sockpuppeteering etc.--FAEP (talk) 11:22, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

What are you saying? and what does it matter? you have to take responsibility for the actions do not move the conversation to something else putting a bad light on other users to believe they spend on the safe side, we're not stupid (@Amire80: excuse the invasion, I will not answer further, I entrust to your administrator authority, there is no need to add things you probably already know) --93.50.115.250 (talk) 11:35, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

I have warned the IP to stop his vandalism.--FAEP (talk) 11:41, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

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Help asked with bot out of control

Please take a look here. Thank you in advance. Kind regards, MoiraMoira (talk) 09:23, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Your question to E4024 about footnotes as sources (Erdogan article)

I am not convinced of E4024's claim that footnotes are not to be considered reliable sources in Wikipedia. It is, however, quite easy to provide non-footnote sourced from the info in the footnote, so I hereby present you with two sources you could use as sources for the deleted text, or even better, in addition to the footnote source: http://webarsiv.hurriyet.com.tr/2002/12/28/227462.asp and archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=27548. Regards! --79.160.40.10 (talk) 16:46, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, anonymous user. I would prefer to talk to a named account, but whatever makes you feel good is fine.

The second link doesn't work, but I suppose that you referred to this. I am reluctant to use it, because that publication is very openly opinionated, and it doesn't add a lot of information anyway. The people behind Memri are opinionated, too, but they mostly translate and quote other sources, so it shouldn't be problem.

The Hürriyet link is probably OK. I don't really know Turkish, but I'll probably use it after making sure that I understand what it says. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 17:04, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

As for the IP address, you may (or probably may not feel you have any time for) reading my explanation om my talk page. Regarding the second link, it worked yesterday night, so I do not know what happened. It is not the article you mention, but an article called "Under Turkish Rule, Part II" from Aug 3, 2007, written by Andrew Bostom, where Rifat Bali is quoted directly. I suppose the link will come back to life again, since it is the archive site of the FrontPage. Regards! --79.160.40.10 (talk) 17:23, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

— Deon^talk 00:48, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Request for Undeletion (Weir NI)

Hello.

I was just wondering if it was possible to restore the past article Felix Kjellberg? I am not asking to keep it, I would just like to copy it to my Sandbox, so that I can continue to improve it without the worries of speedy deletion.

Many thanks! :-)Weir NI (talk) 12:23, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Done: User:Weir NI/Felix Kjellberg. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 23:28, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Weir NI (talk • contribs) 23:12, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

OmegaWiki

Hi; I'm a new user at OmegaWiki (as well as a somewhat experienced Wikipedian), which you seem to have left a year ago, so I'll ask you the question here. Feel free to reply either here or there.

A while ago, you had a conversation with Kip about how to use niqqud. Going through it, I couldn't seem to figure out what the conclusion was; i.e. what exactly should I do when adding a new word in Hebrew. Should I use niqqud, or not, or add an annotation (and if so, where), or do something else? Thanks – Ypnypn (talk) 19:45, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Mmmm... Nice of you to remind me that thing :)

I didn't leave in the sense of "I don't want to do this any more", because I do love the idea of that project. I did, in practice, leave in the sense "I, very unfortunately, don't have time to do this any more". I really hope that the software will improve and I'll be able to do this more efficiently so time will be less of a constraint.

Generally, three things are needed for this to work well.

Number zero is understanding of the problem: Hebrew is quite unique in having two spelling systems - with and without niqqud. Both are useful for different purposed in daily life and both are required in dictionaries. (Actually, I'm saying "unique", but it's not entirely correct: There can be a comparable, though not identical situations in other languages, for example Russian with marked stress or English with IPA.)

Number one is technical support in the software. It must be possible to specify a relation between the form with niqqud and the form without, and not just as an "alternate spelling".

And number two is a decided written standard among people who edit the entries in Hebrew on questions such as what should be the main form.

I don't have the capacity to fix number one, but I'll gladly consult anybody who is willing to do it. And I am willing to explain more about numbers zero and two, because it's important to understand them. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 04:30, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Admittedly, software improvements are definitely needed (including, as you mentioned, the ability to search by either form). In the meantime, however, I was thinking about requesting another language, called he-n (or whatever) as a temporary measure, until the technical support is developed.

Regarding your point number two, I don't think it's crazy to simply follow the "official" rules for spelling. For example, in English, many people incorrectly use i for I, but OmegaWiki only includes the correct form. The situation with Hebrew is not exactly the same (להיפך isn't wrong per se), but it's close enough that I think we only need to use the official spellings. What do you think? – Ypnypn (talk) 14:45, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

About number two - the forms must definitely be written according to the Academy's standard (להפך), and common non-standard forms (להיפך) should be listed as aliases. By "main form" I'm referring to the question of whether it should be the form with or without vowels. It's not very important - both must be listed eventually, and the question is just which one appears as the main one. I prefer the one with niqqud, as it is in Even-Shoshan; many people may prefer the one without niqqud, as in Rav-Millim. A decision is needed mostly for consistency.

I like the idea of having a language tag for Hebrew with niqqud, such as "he-vocalized". It's useful for many things beyond OmegaWiki. It should be standardized as an IETF language tag. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 17:48, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Interwiki links

Hi, Amir. Being that you are an admin in both en. and he. Wikipedia, I thought you might have a good suggestion on the following:

I've been noticing interwiki links being deleted in favor of wikidata links. All fine. But I happened to look at the wikidata links page for Shabbat (d:Q102477) and noticed nothing in Ladino Wikipedia. Seemed odd. So I went to check it out. There is an article at lad:Shabat. It's short, and has a couple of sentences about "Shabat is the seventh day of the week" and a couple of sentences about "Shabat is Shabbat." (OK, I don't really speak Ladino, but I understood that.) All the automatic wikilinks on that page lead to "Saturday" rather than "Shabbat".

So my question to you is very simple: What do you think? In Ladino (davka) should we override that link to connect to Shabbat, or should we leave it as "Saturday"?

Thanks. שבת שלום. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:37, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Shalom, thank you for the question.

I don't really see a problem here: I can read Spanish, and I can understand the Ladino article. Much of it is about Shabbat as a day of week, and it has interlanguage links accordingly. There should be a separate page about the Jewish Shabbat, as there is in many other languages. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 18:06, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. If you know anyone who writes Ladino well enough, it would be worthwhile trying to get that article created. I will also ask at the local Sefardic synagogue here (in Highland Park, NJ) if there is anyone who could take it on. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:47, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Editor @ ar.wiki

Hello. I would like to inform you that I have granted you editor flag at the Arabic Wikipedia, all your edits there will be automatically marked as patrolled. Best regards.--Avocato (talk) 18:39, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 07:38, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Toki Pona!

I was surprised to see you nominating this for deletion. Perhaps it is just highly referenced in my academic and social circles, but most of the active polyglots and linguists I know use and refer to it, both casually and as a useful reference point... as much as they do to any other conlang. [which is significant considering its comparatively small speaker base vis a vis eo and vo. – SJ + 02:49, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

I nominated it for a reason that is very usual for the English Wikipedia: On close examination the article itself didn't cite any reliable secondary sources that prove notability. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 08:15, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Interwiki request for help

Hi, Amir. I'd like your feedback on a couple of things.

1. I created a new {{User SUL Box}} for he Wikipedia. You can find it currently in my he sandbox. I'm curious if you like it and think it is worthwhile to put into the he Template space. I know there is already a he:תבנית:משתמש בעל חשבון מאוחד, but it doesn't have the usual links in it, so I played a little bit.

   It seems, BTW, that it is almost impossible to name this template with Hebrew letters—mainly because it is practically impossible to write out coherent directions without the ltr/rtl issues making a mess of things. The template works that way, but the instructions look garbled. That is why I propose the conventional name "User SUL Box".

2. Separately, is there any reason you can think of why my page in yi comes up as משתמש instead of באַניצער? (Not that my Yiddish is so good ...)
3. חג שמח!
   StevenJ81 (talk) 21:50, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi,

1. My impression is that the Hebrew Wikipedia is, in general, more liberal than the English one with regards to userboxes. It looks good to me personally and you can probably move it to the template namespace. Somebody may ask you about the duplication. Consider merging it with the existing template or making the parameters optional.
2. It's a bug. Thanks for reporting it. Basically, "באַניצער" was defined as the generic namespace name for "User:", but users who have defined the gender (מין) in the preferences saw the Hebrew namespace names instead of Yiddish names, because Yiddish names for different genders weren't defined. I fixed it. The fix will be deployed on the Yiddish Wikipedia in a couple of weeks.

חג שמח! --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 09:55, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

 Done Thanks again! חג שמח! StevenJ81 (talk) 19:09, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Speaking of bugs (maybe)

Once I got the Hebrew template finished, I started working on a Yiddish version, not that I speak Yiddish. I'm working on it in the same he sandbox, because it's a right-to-left sandbox. So ... I noticed the following as I was pulling in the Yiddish names of the various projects:

–	Wikibooks	Wikisource
Hebrew	Wikisefer	Wikitext
Yiddish	Wikitext (project doesn't exist)	Wikibibliotek

So we have Wikitext used for two completely different projects ... is that a good or bad thing? And where does one bring this up? StevenJ81 (talk) 19:34, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

I don't think that I understood. Where did you see that "Wikitext" is an Yiddish name for Wikibooks? --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 20:16, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

At the bottom of the Yiddish Wikipedia main page. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:35, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Weird. Probably a mistake. It's not a technical thing. Can you ask the community there? --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 18:37, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

I asked. We'll see what they say. I'm not going to lose sleep over it, but I was kind of wondering. Shabbat Shalom. StevenJ81 (talk) 20:49, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Turned out to be a mistake. Correct name for Wikibooks is וויקיביכער (Wiki-bücher), now fixed over there. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:41, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for bringing this up! --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 17:23, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Glad to be of help. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:44, 4 April 2013 (UTC)