User talk:Amaury/2015/October
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Firstly, I work for IMDb as a certified content editor so I assure you any and all information I cite from that reference is valid. Secondly, I am a professional actor who guest stars on episode 2.13 so I am well aware of who worked on it and in what capacity. Erkman27 (talk) 05:19, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Erkman27: It doesn't matter. Per WP:TVFAQ, IMDB is not reliable source. Also, if what you say is true, then you have a conflict of interest, which means you must really provide reliable sources; otherwise it's original research, which cannot be accepted. Amaury (talk) 05:25, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
I've already added a report for the additional IP, no need to make an additional report here. Additionally, the IP has been range-blocked by an admin already. Thanks for helping out though. Feel free to make a new case if you happen to come across more socks of that master. --JustBerry (talk) 19:41, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Comment: @Huon: Since Huon left a message there, I've removed the duplicate report and merged their comments here. --JustBerry (talk) 19:46, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- @JustBerry: Acknowledged. Amaury (talk) 19:47, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for reverting those edits from 99.233.155.197, though I thought I had done so. Oh well. I also noticed you left a final warning on that user's talk page, but then I added the same, with a much sterner message to them, as I kept in mind their past edit warring on the main article for the show a few weeks ago. I honestly don't know what the deal is with their reordering names without any explanation or justification why their order is correct or better, and to me, aside from what is in the guidelines regarding how characters and cast are to be ordered, does it really matter? MPFitz1968 (talk) 01:25, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- @MPFitz1968: You bet. I haven't forgotten who they are, either. If only IPs could be blocked indefinitely. Amaury (talk) 01:27, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- Each block of an IP usually gets longer than the last. I've seen static IP users blocked up to 2 years but it takes a while to escalate to that point. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:30, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
I have reverted your edit to "Girl Meets the Secret of Life" for now, and replaced it with my edit, changing the viewership. Please discuss this further with me on the article's talk page, where I have started a discussion. 68.199.15.230 (talk) 15:04, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Regarding this. I haven't commented on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. It's possible I may have commented there a couple of years ago, but certainly not within my recent memory. -- Scjessey (talk) 01:45, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Scjessey: Here.
Don't be a dick. You could always EDIT the fucking thing, instead of just reverting it like a douchebag.
Amaury (talk) 02:05, 22 October 2015 (UTC)- I did not post that comment on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Somebody else copied it there from a user talk page, which was a reply to someone who had just told me to "get a fucking grip" in an edit summary. Please check before using User Warning Templates in future. -- Scjessey (talk) 02:10, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
About my revert of your edit. A lot of time TV series sort of fade out and nothing is announced. Template:Infobox television/doc last_aired says to keep present there if uncertain until a year has passed in those cases. I Didn't Do It looks to be one of those series where it is difficult to show the series ended and proof was somewhat hard to obtain. Thus the hard-to-find reference in the article and that reference being archived as programming guides and press releases tend to disappear. Geraldo Perez (talk) 13:49, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: Indeed. Despite what was said by the cast in the reference Jball added to the main article—and I'm not even sure how reliable that is or if it's even reliable at all or not—it's completely possible the show's just on hiatus right now while Disney Channel figures out what to do. I'm fairly sure it's due to the low ratings because the series premiered when there was something else, which was strong competition. I can't remember what it was and where I read it, but that's basically what it said because Disney Channel was even showing advertisements for it on YouTube. Amaury (talk) 14:01, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- The extract of the press release in IJBall's reference is pretty solid as that is Disney basically saying it's over. Matches the program guide info in original ref. What cast say in social media sites and reported in other places doesn't count as official words as cast members can only speak for themselves and not for the network or production team. Show might be on hiatus or Disney might change their minds but that is likely to show up in an upfront sometime in the future, otherwise they will just say nothing more about this and let it all fade away. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:29, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: Gotcha. That's bad practice and a bit mean-spirited, if you ask me. There should always be an official announcement regarding a show's ending or cancellation, like with Jessie. Amaury (talk) 14:36, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah. But basic marketing though, play up successes, hope only a few people notice failures so don't call attention to it. When it is a planned finish for a strong show (Jessie) there is usually a finale episode greatly advertised for the last ratings push. When shows just end it is a pretty strong indication the ratings just weren't there. If there were other problems they don't want to talk about (see Sam & Cat) reliable sources will happily report every detail. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:48, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: I see. That's unfortunate—all they care about is money. But at least I Didn't Do It didn't end on an unintentional cliffhanger like The Amanda Show did (Moody's Point, specifically) or some other shows have. I'm not sure if the writers knew in advance, but whether they did or not, The Rescuers is actually a good last episode for I Didn't Do It. Obviously, there are things that could have been continued and expanded on had there been a third season, but, at least in my opinion, the episode didn't make you feel like there was something missing, which is the case for shows that end just like that. In other words, you don't feel like it was canceled, even though it was, and it just feels like it was a typical final episode. Amaury (talk) 15:09, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- It was likely the planned season finale and the writers were aware that the show might not be renewed when they wrote it. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:27, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: I see. That's unfortunate—all they care about is money. But at least I Didn't Do It didn't end on an unintentional cliffhanger like The Amanda Show did (Moody's Point, specifically) or some other shows have. I'm not sure if the writers knew in advance, but whether they did or not, The Rescuers is actually a good last episode for I Didn't Do It. Obviously, there are things that could have been continued and expanded on had there been a third season, but, at least in my opinion, the episode didn't make you feel like there was something missing, which is the case for shows that end just like that. In other words, you don't feel like it was canceled, even though it was, and it just feels like it was a typical final episode. Amaury (talk) 15:09, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah. But basic marketing though, play up successes, hope only a few people notice failures so don't call attention to it. When it is a planned finish for a strong show (Jessie) there is usually a finale episode greatly advertised for the last ratings push. When shows just end it is a pretty strong indication the ratings just weren't there. If there were other problems they don't want to talk about (see Sam & Cat) reliable sources will happily report every detail. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:48, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: Gotcha. That's bad practice and a bit mean-spirited, if you ask me. There should always be an official announcement regarding a show's ending or cancellation, like with Jessie. Amaury (talk) 14:36, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- The extract of the press release in IJBall's reference is pretty solid as that is Disney basically saying it's over. Matches the program guide info in original ref. What cast say in social media sites and reported in other places doesn't count as official words as cast members can only speak for themselves and not for the network or production team. Show might be on hiatus or Disney might change their minds but that is likely to show up in an upfront sometime in the future, otherwise they will just say nothing more about this and let it all fade away. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:29, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
FTR, I was surprised when I stumbled upon this one's cancellation as well. I usually have pretty good (outside of Wiki) sources on TV show cancellation news and such, but I'd heard nothing about it until I stumbled upon the Wiki page. That's when I went looking for another reference. The social media stuff from cast and crew may not be "definitive" on their own, but I think in its totality the new ref does very much confirm cancellation. I'd still like to know the reasons for cancellation of this one – if I had to guess, the show's audience "skewed too old" for Disney Channel, which I suspect is much the same thing that happened to Victorious on NICK... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:16, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
I don't want to be rude or anything but why do you keep undoing the writing that I've made for Holden's section of the page. I'm just trying to expand it not a lot but some important facts. Sbrady538 (talk) 00:33, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Sbrady538: I've reinstated your edits with some slight modifications so they're in accordance with guidelines. Amaury (talk) 00:50, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Amaury: Thank you very much. Sbrady538 (talk) 01:04, 25 October 2015 (UTC)