User talk:Amaury/2015/July

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Liv and Maddie

I know that Wikia has a bad reputation for being a reliable spurce, but I don't know why. It is actually a lot like Wikipedia and believes very strongly in reliable sources and valid info. 68.199.15.200 (talk) 11:01, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

@68.199.15.200: Because, like Wikipedia, it can be edited by anyone. Therefore, it's not reliable. Amaury (talk) 15:23, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Norway

Hello, this [1] is the second time you've given me a warning in the last 24 hours for making a constructive edit, this time reverting an unexplained date change. I think if this happens a third time, wherein you revert and warn me without taking the time to check the context, I'll request third party assistance. Thank you, 2601:188:0:ABE6:C97D:45FC:C8AB:394E (talk) 20:34, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

@2601:188:0:ABE6:C97D:45FC:C8AB:394E: With all the actual disruptive editing that actually does happen, it's quite easy to misidentify good edits as bad ones. In addition, it's also quite easy to forget who's who when it comes to IPs. Plenty of other people with an unusual IP like yours have vandalized quite extensively in the past. Cheers! Amaury (talk) 20:40, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

I know--I've made well over 50,000 edits as a registered account, and probably another 10,000 or more anonymously. I've rarely given out unwarranted warnings, and usually take a few extra seconds, or even minutes, to assess the situation. Circumspection re: profiling of IPs is necessary. 2601:188:0:ABE6:C97D:45FC:C8AB:394E (talk) 20:47, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Choco Taco

I think my suggested addition to the page re Choco Taco in popular culture is quite constructive. The Choco Taco demonstrates the impact on American consumer culture of the mass-marketing of pseudo-ethnic products. The MC Paul Barman reference, comparing this to the effects of French Colonialism on Morocco, is a relevant comment on modern society. Being a reference to sociology in pop music, directly referencing the product, this seems to be constructive in demonstrating the cultural impact of this product, and similar products. Would you kindly explain why this is non-constructive? 73.44.244.141 (talk) 20:14, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

General Tom Thumb

General Tom Thumb is NOT a living person!!! and the edit i added was taken from another Wikipedia page: [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.114.7.2 (talk) 17:12, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Television in Italy

What do I do? Try search Italian wiki or Italian sites. If u want to keep an article like this, not updated and full of mistakes, go on, but it's garbage. Now it's up to you to edit that kind of article. 87.20.161.115 (talk) 20:44, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

@87.20.161.115: I suggest you take any problems you have with it to the article's talk page rather than just outright delete content without providing a valid explanation. Thanks. Amaury (talk) 20:47, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

You removed ultra valid updates from the voice. Anyway, I quit, do what u want, I don't care. Good night. 87.20.161.115 (talk) 20:54, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Socialist Alternative (Canada)

I have added quotes from the socialist alternative website as well as facts on their history. Please stop deleting them. I have provided references which you delete and also history on their splits and their changed position on Quebec. Please refrain for removing edits that account for their history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.206.82.126 (talk) 04:44, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

You need to provide reliable sources rather than just inserting information willy-nilly. Amaury (talk) 08:12, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Constitution of Illinois

It was my mistake in omitting a source. I'm new at this, so when I learn how to better insert sources, I'll find one, undo your deletion, and figure out how to best add the source, if that's OK with you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lawrenceastein (talk • contribs) 13:16, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

List of Austin & Ally episodes

Deleting title references for aired episodes is fine but be careful when you do about named referenced being deleted in the process as that name may be used in some other location and leads to reference errors when the definition is deleted. A bot usually fixes this but still best to check. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:16, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

@Geraldo Perez: I'll preview from now on. Thanks for the note. Maybe you can help with one thing. I tried to remove the air date reference for Austin & Ally S4 E1 (January 18, 2015), but it gave it a reference error while previewing it and I couldn't find where else it was used, so I just left it. I tried using Ctrl + F to no avail. How do you find where else they're used? Amaury (talk) 03:52, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

COMMAND F on my Mac, should be same thing as CTRL F on PC, worked for me, that is what I normally use - it was in section lead paragraph. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:09, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

@Geraldo Perez: Did you search for <ref name=s4>? That's what I searched for and it only returned one result. I think that was before I re-added it, so it did work, I just spaced out. I'm dumb. Thanks! Amaury (talk) 04:14, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

I just searched for name=s4. Also can find where used by clicking on the little a,b,c... in the references section next to the reference number. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:18, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

@Geraldo Perez: Thanks, man! Very helpful! Amaury (talk) 04:21, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

K.C. Undercover

I noticed that you changed the punctuation in the episode titles for Double Crossed and Operation: Other Side. The previous titles were verbatim from the sources; what's your reason for changing it? (Even if we were to keep the dashes, I think they should be en dashes.) nyuszika7h (talk) 13:47, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

@Nyuszika7H: Feel free to change them to em-dashes. I just personally thought they looked better than with the commas. In regard to the sources, though, I don't think the punctuation really matters when it comes to part separators. Any other case, such as if the episode title were "Gitty Up, K.C.," then yeah, the comma before K.C. should be left as is, but it's more important that the words remain the same as the source--if the source says Ice-Cream Beat, then you wouldn't want to change it to Ice-Cream Fun, haha! Just how I see it, though. I'd be more than happy to change that part back. Geraldo Perez, what are your thoughts? Does it have to be that exact or is it mostly just the words? Amaury (talk) 15:48, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

I prefer verbatim from the sources. Punctuation changes may be minor, but sometimes it subtly changes the meaning so I think it best to go with exactly what the reference says. Treat like a direct quote. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:59, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Talbot Street

User:78.19.27.244 tried reinserting the item on the non-notable fight, I reverted it and added the article to my watchlist. Thanks for sorting out the earlier vandalism. Autarch (talk) 00:58, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Bella and the Bulldogs

I did use a reliable source. The section covered controversy being discussed in the media. Whether or not you disagree with the media source doesn't not invalidate that there is indeed a controversy and it is notable enough to be covered. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FauXnetiX (talk • contribs) 00:25, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

@FauXnetiX: As I said, IMDB is not reliable source. If you can find a reliable source, then feel free to add it. Otherwise, take any concerns you have on the talk page and leave that out of the article. Amaury (talk) 00:29, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 37#Gawker.com Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:32, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

George Lucas Good enough to be included on Georges page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FauXnetiX (talk • contribs) 00:33, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Ahiri

I am learning Carnatic Music from last 5 years and the things which I have edited in the 'Ahiri' page is for increasing information about it .I wasn't vandalizing the page. This belief that- one should not eat anything after singing this raga , has been prevailing from the past as there is a story regarding this which is well known to person who are in the field of Carnatic Music. And moreover I live on the land from where this music system has been originated. Eklavya Bhatt (talk) 12:44, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Bella and the Bulldogs

Psst! Amaury! I don't think the giant boldface is the right way to go in an RfC. Maybe a TQ template? I appreciate your support, though. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:43, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: I'm not sure what a TQ template is, so feel free to adjust my message accordingly. :) Amaury (talk) 19:45, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

{{TQ}} Talk quote. I'll fix it for ya. It's generally considered a little dodgy to draw extra attention to your position by using a lot of crazy "look at me!" formatting. I like to play a fair game of ball. :) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:47, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

IMDb

See Wikipedia:External links/Perennial websites#IMDb Geraldo Perez (talk) 13:43, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Got it. Amaury (talk) 16:02, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Max & Shred

Hi Amaury, was there a reason why you snipped a bunch of references from the Max & Shred article? Even after episodes air, we still need to be able to prove when they aired, or when the series started, etc. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:32, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Unless there's a hidden note because the title is continuous or something, Geraldo Perez said it was fine to remove sources from aired seasons/episodes/premieres, with the exception of the Broadcast sections per his recent edits. Amaury (talk) 16:01, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Generally fine to remove RTitle references for aired episodes. Other references in the article should each be considered on their own merit. Some references to very reliable sources such as Variety and major news sources are useful to show notability of the subject - significant coverage by independent sources, and should generally be left. Main cast credited character names should also be referenced if possible as they don't normally show up in the opening credits and can be contentious. Recurring cast normally has a credited character name in the end credits. If in doubt about a reference, best to leave it in. Should be able justify each removal. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:26, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

@Geraldo Perez: Just to clarify regarding characters, are you referring to the cast who play the characters, the characters, or, both? If the first or third, as long as they appear in the opening sequence/credits, then it's generally okay to remove those references, such as is the case for many shows? For example, Nicky, Ricky, Dicky, & Dawn shows the kid actors' characters' names in the opening sequence and then the cast in the opening credits as the episode's starting, which is also the case for a lot of shows like that, though most show the cast in the opening sequence. Amaury (talk) 17:02, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

The name of the cast is always in the opening credits and doesn't require references as the opening credit sequence of the show gives the name. The name of their character, however, is seldom displayed in the opening credits. If it is displayed there, then references won't be needed. We prefer to use credited character names as opposed to episode revealed names, when possible, and when the character name is not in the opening credits we need to refer to some official site as an adjunct to the show itself to provide that info. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:09, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Episode table colors

Looks good so far the changes you are making. Only other consideration that seems to matter to a lot of editors is that the colors should somehow be related to the show itself such as a color in the logo or infobox image. Light shades are my personal preference as we discussed before but should see if you can find a light shade match to something show related. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:46, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

@Geraldo Perez: I will do that! Ironically, I kind of already was doing that, but in regard to when they premiered. For example, Henry Danger premiered on June 26, 2014, which was in the summer, so I gave it a light blue color to give it a summery look, which, coincidentally, also appears to tie into the show. Logos are something I can use to match the colors (for example, I Didn't Do It's logo's red letters), but lightening them a bit so the citation links show up well. Text color can be easily changed, but not so much the links. ;) Amaury (talk) 22:43, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Done. How's that, Geraldo Perez? See everything under Completed Tasks here. You can also see my contributions to see the reasons I gave. Amaury (talk) 01:07, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Looks OK to me. Test will be if other editors accept it. Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:15, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Girl Meets World

Hello, why not just make the changes that you made and leave the episode count as 32? That is simply making it where you put the episode count update in instead of me. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 01:36, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Girl Meets World: "Girl Meets Fish"

Hey there. Just letting you know that "Girl Meets Fish" is a season one episode that will air as part of season 2. The writers confirmed this and even made a joke on one of their tweets by saying the younger cast would look younger. Its production code is 119. Also, Corey F. is listed as "Also Starring" for the episode and the season one credits were used. I just finished watching the episode myself. I put a source from the GMW writers twitter page but if you like, do look the episode up. It is still under the production code 119. Oh and 219 will be the episode "Girl Meets Sludge" btw. Just throwing that out there. Thanks. :) Ijoshiexo (talk) 02:59, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Here are the joke tweets. [3] [4] Ijoshiexo (talk) 03:07, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes, we know, but as I said, Twitter is not a reliable source. For now, we must go by Disney Press' production code. Please see Geraldo Perez's comments on the List of Girl Meets World episodes talk page. Amaury (talk) 03:10, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Is IGN a reliable source about the episode being apart of season one? <ref>http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/07/25/girl-meets-world-girl-meets-fish-review</ref> And its just weird to me because there's already a 219 haha. Idk why Disney would put that as 219 but okay. But can we at least still note that the season one opening was used and that Corey F. was listed as also starring after the credits? Ijoshiexo (talk) 03:17, 28 July 2015 (UTC)