Jump to content

User talk:Alyo/Archive 7

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Archive 1←Archive 5Archive 6Archive 7Archive 8Archive 9Archive 10

Invitation to the December Wikification Drive

Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of WikiProject Wikify at 01:30, 2 December 2011 (UTC).

Errors In Message Delivery

Hello, this is an automated message to inform you that although most messages were delivered (see contributions) some errors were encountered while processing your delivery request (Invitation to the December Wikification Drive). Please deliver the messages to the following users manually, if you wish, because the bot was not allowed to do so:

Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot at 01:40, 2 December 2011 (UTC).

Talkback

Hello, Alyo. You have new messages at Assassin's Creed's talk page.
Message added 17:15, 2 December 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

—Assassin'S Creed (talk) 17:15, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Texas Services for people with disabilities in Bexar County

You recommended a new page I posted Texas Services for people with disabilities in Bexar County for immediate deletion for G11 reasons. Please send me a copy of the page so I may learn and understand what there was about the information being posted that you found "promotional". Thank you. Ahill1225 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahill1225 (talk • contribs) 21:12, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi there Ahill, and thanks for coming here instead of just trying to recreate your article. I have asked the deleting admin to come by, but I don't know that he will give you a copy. (Note that I don't have the ability to see your article right now.) Until then, you may wish to read a short paragraph he has written about G11. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 21:31, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

It would be enormously helpful if you could be specific about what you considered promotional or advertisement in the article. The information was intended to provide a roadmap of sorts as each state implements federal programming different in this field. Consequently, people will query the internet for information on how it is done in each locale.Ahill1225 (talk) 22:43, 2 December 2011 (UTC) AHill1225 Nolelover - I have read the reference page you sent. Was your delete recommendation made because of all the external links I had included? if so, if they were omitted from the article, would it pass muster? Thanks for the feedback. Ahill1225 (talk) 23:07, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Alright Ahill, User:Thingg has helpfully posted the article in his sandbox, so I can help you a bit better now. Now, when it comes to advertising content, its easy to point some things out. When you think of an ad, what comes to mind? Maybe a very description of the product, and positive information that makes a person want to use it. Of course, a method of contacting the provider would also be in there. Without even getting into some other potential problems the article has, I can say that it would require a "fundamental rewrite" to get rid of all the advert-ish content, and that's why it was deleted. For specific examples, I point to all the phone numbers, contact info, direct quotations from the websites and invitations for applications. All that would have to be removed, and even then your article would still face problems of a different sort. Wikipedia has notability guidelines, that is, the standard for inclusion on this site. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see many reliable, third-party sources talking about disability services in Bexar county. Anyway, I hope this helps you. Cheers, Nolelover Talk·Contribs 02:54, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Nolelover - thanks for your time and your comments. I appreciate the examples you gave - that kind of specificity is helpful but I will confess I don't really understand how giving neutral contact information can be construed as advertising. As for reliable sources, I have a reference list of the sources. As for reliable, third party in nature, whether one considers state agencies reliable, third parties probably is subject to opinion. I get that all the external links are discouraged. Those are easily eliminated. Given your comments, how can I put together an article on how to access supports and services for people with disabilities and their families that will pass Wikipedia editing. Thanks for your continued help Ahill1225 (talk) 03:21, 3 December 2011 (UTC) AHill1225

Well, this may not be what you want to hear, but its the easiest way of putting it. You ask "how can I put together an article on how to access supports and services" (emphasis mine). Its very simple. Wikipedia is not for how-to's. As long as you're thinking that you're trying to create an article about "how to" do something, it'll never fly. Note that if you want to write an article about disability services in Texas (Bexar county is probably too specific), I think that would be a much better goal. Now, the external links are not discouraged. Those are fine, although turning them into actual sources would be better. Also, the state agencies are reliable sources, but they aren't third-party. You're really writing an article about them (indirectly), so they would be considered primary sources. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 03:30, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Spoons

Hello, Alyo. You have new messages at Spedster777's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Spedster777 (talk) 00:10, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi. In Brentwood Science Magnet Elementary School, you recently added a link to the disambiguation page Public school (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver). Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. For more information, see the FAQ or drop a line at the DPL WikiProject.

It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 13:47, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Adoption

Hello, Alyo. You have new messages at MyKingdom200's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

MyKingdom200 (talk) 23:03, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Alyo. You have new messages at Sp33dyphil's talk page.
Message added 21:18, 9 December 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

--Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 21:18, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

When will the next Wikifier be released? --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 05:22, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

January would be a great, if somewhat arbitrary date....perhaps you could set up the rough format, just by copying and pasting from old dates to new ones? Nolelover Talk·Contribs 16:14, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

We're going somewhere!

Hello Nole, remeber how a few days ago you said that I obliterating the wikification backlog? Well, I'm editing at a rate of about 25 articles per day (today I edited 40) -- I think that the goal of 19,000 articles can be reached. Can you motivate others (if you can, since you sound like a leader) and put in an extra little bit of effort for the next 17 days (not saying that you've been slacking off!) so we can maybe surpass our goal comes New Years Days? Cheers! :) --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 09:09, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, I only just resigned my post, so it would hardly be right for me to try to make any binding declarations to all our members. However, a mid-drive newsletter is something that could easily be set up and sent out with MessageDeliveryBot, especially if it were kept simple and based on the invite. And yes, I have been slacking, hehe. This certainly isn't a slow time of year, but I'll see what I can do :) Nolelover Talk·Contribs 04:07, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

MotD: New Year's Eve&Day + Wikipedia's birthday

Hi Nolelover!
Please, consider to give your opinion on this nomination for the New Year's Day, and, if you can, check the nomination for the eleventh birthday of Wikipedia (it's just 1-2 noms below).
Thank you, and a Merry Christmas and a New Year of health, happiness, peace, love, and prosperity to you and your family. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:19, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

GOCE newsletter

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors

Elections are currently underway for our third tranche of Guild coordinators. The voting period will run for 14 days: 00:01 UTC, 16 December – 23:59 UTC, 31 December. All GOCE members, as well as past participants of any of the Guild's Backlog elimination drives, are eligible to vote. There are five candidates vying for four positions. Your vote really matters! Cast your vote today.

Sent on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors using AWB on 11:07, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

I sincerely wish you and your family have a very Merry Christmas and a happy and safe festive season. Enjoy the roasted turkey and Christmas pudding (and please don't edit Wikipedia during the day if you can help it). --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 23:17, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Hopefully I'll be back soon, anyways,

Merry Christmas
and a Happy New Year
to you and your family.

May your day be filled with
pleasant surprises.
Link to Image

Sumsum2010·T·C 04:19, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Hundreds of Merry Christmas and Happy New Years

Hi,dear Nolelover,how are you?. God give you hundreds of Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.Amen.Please take a look at Ram Dayal Munda and more improvement if needed,and please fil the info box with information required.I tried but couldn't,still learning.I will be thank full for your kind help.Cheers.Ehsan Sehgal (talk) 14:15, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Ehsan, I'm great, and its good to see you again. Happy holidays to you too! I'll look at as soon as I can. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 17:06, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Alyo. You have new messages at Ramaksoud2000's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Ramaksoud2000 (talk) 19:04, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Can you help to make archives?.

Hi,Nolelover,please help me to make archives on my talk page,I have already made copy of your talk page and pasted on my talk page.Am I right to do so?.Thanks.Ehsan Sehgal (talk) 12:08, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

  • I think I have not User page,can I again creat it.?.Ehsan Sehgal (talk) 12:12, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
    • In regards to the user page, of course! Right now its just a redirect to your talk page, but if you want you can edit this page and replace the redirect with whatever you want. Now, the archive is a little trickier. Wikipedia has a bot that will archive your talk page if you want it too, by setting up a template and telling it how often you want it to archive your page. For example, you could tell it to archive all threads that are at least 25 days old, and make sure that it always leaves at least three threads. What I'll do is just archive manually to a subpage whenever I think its getting to big. That's what I'll do now (I'll put it here: User talk:Ehsan Sehgal/Archive 1), and if you want me to set up the bot I can do that later. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 15:07, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
  • Hi,thanks for archiving my talk page,it's OK.I will try to edit my user page.What is going on to subject of the article and new comers,it seems to me he or they are very agressive kind of guys.Even my edit warning has also been deleted from the talk page of Babar Malik by 61.5.145.10 (talk).I am watching.I think behind in all IP adresses is only one person.??.I tried to save the article and was searching google to find reliable references,but they don't understand, I regret this kind of behaviour.Sorry.Ehsan Sehgal (talk) 17:24, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
    • I'm a little surprised too. Its a little odd how many have sprung out of nowhere, and I also wouldn't be surprised of they were the same person. However, my advice to you is the same that someone else just gave me a few minutes ago: there's no need to start editwarring. I've started a discussion on the talk page, and lets try to keep this aboveboard. I'd appreciate you chiming in there. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 17:30, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Is exemplary better or worse than great?

Perhaps I'm acting foolishly. I hope I'm not annoying editors who are much happier farming pagespace, but I've been watching AfDs for six years, and rarely seen such a frontloaded discussion, especially given the dearth of questions to the candidate, which I've had to drag out of editors. Nobody has argued with any responses to questions and in fact the first three (enormously influential) opposes have either indented or are at least more sympathetic with my positions. Two out of all my closes, one a clear button mis-hit and the other a judgement call with which some disagree? Nothing short of perfection will impress some editors and that says volumes about why the pedia has only promoted 48 of 80 candidates in 2011. This is the poorest promotion number since year one of the process. BusterD (talk) 02:54, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, I've been staring at this for a few minutes wondering how to respond, so forgive me if I start to ramble. First, I'll admit that I'm immediately biased against editors who express their own opinions (e.g. "I'll express a personal concern...") while closing and give the impression, rightly or wrongly, that their pre-held notions may have influenced the closing. I'm not a big fan of NAC to begin with, and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MedicoLegal Investigations Ltd made it impossible for me to support at first. The second one (Lord's bank) didn't help, but upon reviewing it yesterday, I can't see any way to really hold it against you. Upon your RfA bouncing back and forth between open and closed, I looked at it again and decided that I was gonna switch to support and say "Screw it, I'm supporting this guy and everyone can take it or leave it." But...and I don't know why...I just can't. For some reason, and damn how I hate that I'm becoming one of those picky god-awful RfA voters you reference who oppose over one edit in 10,000, my gut just won't let me support. You're probably going to exit this RfA thinking you got screwed, and you're entirely justified in thinking that. However, I really wish you had let McBride close it, come back in 4 months and passed with WP:100. As it is, well, idk...you may have screwed yourself in the future with the whole pushing to keep this open thing. Yes, it was frontloaded. Yes, you didn't get a chance to really defend yourself in the Q&A section (I tried to think of applicable questions, but I already know the answers you would give for any faux AfDs). But there's a time to just let it go, keep your head down, work your butt off and try again later. For me, your edits aren't as important as how you edit. Making mistakes and learning from them with a grin is better then aiming for perfection with a scowl on your face. Instead of moving on, you've made yourself, purposely or not, a player in the People vs. RfA case, and that will work against you next time. There are plenty of people who will glad to oppose because "he couldn't be a fair loser last time", and stuff like that is the reason I'll never try to run that gauntlet. I really understand your frustration. I don't mind your ranting a bit here. I know how being judged unworthy of the mop can feel, since I lost one of my best friends that way. At the end of the day though, you've got to be able to keep going. If you do, I fully expect to see you standing up there one day. If not...well, I don't want to see Malleus2. As to your first (and probably rhetorical) question, 'exemplary' was just a tad too effusive. I hope this helps -- Nolelover Talk·Contribs 03:33, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
If my friends don't desert me, if I make a few new ones, if I stay true to myself, and if I put myself on the map as someone who thinks there must be some reason why nobody runs anymore, then I can't see why I will feel screwed. I have the utmost respect for all the thought you put into your response here; I appreciate your candor far more than I would appreciate your acquiescence. The more I discuss this with others, the more this all might seem like a bigger and bigger violation of WP:POINT, and that perception disturbs me. MONGO and I had an email discussion in which he recommended I stick it out for a short while; I was already thinking this the wise course. Maybe this process will continue to go against me. But it's never been about me; my run was motivated by something bigger than me, motivated by the same reason I log on and participate every day, motivated by the desire to be actively engaged in creating an encyclopedia. I don't need the mop to do that, so if this all means I'll never get one, so what. I'll be fine and unchanged. If this is how reasonable candidates are vetted, then this says way more about the pedia and its weaknesses than it does about any single candidate. BusterD (talk) 03:54, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
Your response speaks volumes, and I'm glad to see it doesn't really run the way of "I'm a perfect example of a broken system etc." Hell, I'm glad to see that you don't even feel too screwed, and I hope that helps you in the long run. Yes, mistakes may have been made, and you've probably made a few perpetual enemies, but at least you know one of the main (if unspoken) rules of WP; just because you're entirely dedicated to building the encyclopedia to the best of your ability doesn't always mean you'll be given the proper tools for the job. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 04:12, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

New Page Patrolling

Hi; i'm just letting you know I have just deleted the page LOVES IT as WP:A1. This was a clear case for CSD, although you had only tagged it with PROD. Please take a moment to read WP:NPP, and if there is anything you are not sure of, don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page. Happy patrolling! --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:10, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Hmm...maybe it was just me, but I wouldn't think that was an A1. Could you tell what the article was about from the line that was there? easily. Anyway, thanks for the note :) Nolelover Talk·Contribs 11:12, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
Thea article was clearly A1. If you read up on WP:NPP, and then WP:CSD, you'll find from the descriptions there that the criteria are quite clearly defined. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:19, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
Kudpung, I have far too much respect for you and your work to try to drag this argument out, but I could answer the question "what is the article about?" It may be wrong for my position to be that CSD should only be used where the criteria are very clearly met, but that's how I see it and I don't remember seeing A1 for this article. I'm not disagreeing with the article's deletion (I believe that exceptionally clear cases of WP:NFT should be the next CSD criteria), but that's my POV. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 11:29, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
I would be the first to argue that we need more CSD criteria, especially for new pages that don't fit the criteria we have but which must be summarily deleted. However, CSD is a WP:PEREN, we're lumbered with CSDing pages that only fit squarely into an existing criterion, and there's no chance of it happening any time soon so some articles will just have to slumber live on line for all to see at PROD for 7 days. However, you can be 100% sure that the page I deleted was A1 - I wouldn't risk my tools by doing anything rash ;-) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:07, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
Heh, yes indeed...I was rather surprised to see you deleting that as A1, but TBH the first thought that crossed my mind was that I must have been using A1 wrong all this time. Anyway, I've got a request for you. As can be seen from the section above, I was talking to BusterD and saw your note on his talk page, saying that sometimes you review editors work in preparation for or in response to RfAs. Now I have little to no interest in the mop, but as an editors whose work I respect, would you mind looking over my contributions and telling me how I've done/what I could improve? This doesn't have to be framed as what's best for RfA, although I would be curious as to your thoughts on that. Regardless, thanks for the above explanation -- Nolelover Talk·Contribs 15:47, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
As your request is not directly made as a pre-RfA assessment, I think it would be a good idea if you were to call for an Editor review. Let me know when you've started the page, and I'll be happy to leave my comments on it. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 17:48, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
I had started one a few months back and it just sat there for a while. However, if you think its a good idea I'll start another in the next month or so and ask for your feedback. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 20:10, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
That review page is fine, there is no need to start another one. You may put the {{Editor review}} template or the {{Editor review sticker}} template on your user page to advertise the review page. I'm rather busy in real life now over the holiday period, so if I have not commented there within the next 2 weeks, please remind me on my talk page. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:24, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

My user page.

  • Hi,I need your help again,I have edited my user page,but cannot make layout,and some more contents want to add.As, LL.B (Bachelor of law)

and poet,writer,and journalist etc.Other thing more, in my talk page,please one item more should be archived,I mean,welcome message.Can you take a look at both pages.Thanks.Ehsan Sehgal (talk) 00:23, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

You've made a lot of edits to your user page since you left this message, so I'm not sure if you still need anything. I archived the welcome message, and tell me if there's anything else in regards to your user page or talk page you want changed, and I'll get right on it. Now, to change your username you'll need to go to WP:CHU and follow the directions. (Note that under "Other things to consider:" it says "Using your real name as a username may put you at risk of harassment." Exactly what's happened with you. Do you have a username already in mind? If so, and its not already used, then you just go to Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple and do what it says. I can search the name to see if its already taken, if you need that. Anyway, you edit a template, and here's an example if you wanted to change your name to "Urdu Poet123".

{{subst:Renameuser|CURRENT=Ehsan Sehgal|NEW=Urdu Poet123|REASON=Ehsan Sehgal is my real name and I get harassed by IP's because of that.}} ~~~~

Then you'd add that to this and let the admins figure it out :) Nolelover Talk·Contribs 15:55, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

  • A lot of thanks,archive is now Ok,and user page is also nearly about to finish.For changing name,would I lose my edits score?,or it will remain?.I am a bit hesitated,not sure,let me think,if yes then I prefer rename as Justice007, what do you think?.Ehsan Sehgal (talk) 17:21, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
  • Hi,Nolelover, my talk and user pages are with new name Justice007,but I am logging with old mean real name,may it take one day more to completely activate.I can not check my watchlist,there is nothing,Ehsan sehgal is also existing,I think so.I wait for.Ehsan Sehgal (talk) 23:35, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Raymond memorial higher secondary school

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.

You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Raymond memorial higher secondary school, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to have no meaningful content or history, and the text is unsalvageably incoherent. If the page you created was a test, please use the sandbox for any other experiments you would like to do. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions about this.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Gsingh (talk) 07:33, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Effectiveness of Wiki Rules Barnstar

Effectiveness of Wiki Rules Barnstar
For your appreciatable work relating WP:Policies and guidelines. Thanks for your efforts! Justice007 (talk) 17:49, 31 December 2011 (UTC)


Ehsan Mehmood Khan

Dear Nolelover! Happy new year and thank you for your valuable comments on discussion page of biographic stub on Pakistani defense & security analyst Ehsan Mehmood Khan. Reliable sources, citations and references have now been provided and properly explained as guided by you previously on the talk page of the said article. I just request you to kindly visit the page for a while and give concluding remarks to end the on-going discussion so that the article could be further developed with peace of mind, please. Kind regards.--182.177.249.155 (talk) 19:53, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Commenting there now. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 23:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

George Lambie

Hi there,

I've noticed that you wrote things about George Lambie:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Lambie


Did you know the guy? I would be grateful if you could help me find things about him (I am a soccer writer by the way).

Thanks,

Steve — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apostolo3 (talk • contribs) 18:28, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

I'll admit that I had never heard of the guy in my life, before I found the article in a maintenance category. I'd be happy to help...anything particular to look for, or certain places you think we could find info? NLinpublic (talk) 18:09, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

2012 GOCE coordinatorship

Hi Nolelover! I'd like to express my appreciation for your vote for me during the 2012 GOCE coordinatorship election. During the next 12 months, I will be looking forward to your input on how I can perform my role, so please be brutally honest regarding my actions.

Regards, and have a wonderful new year! --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 01:05, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

I had half a mind to strongly oppose you so that you could be fully dedicated to the WWF, but reason prevailed. :P Glad you made it, and I'm sure you'll do well. NLinpublic (talk) 18:11, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

GOCE 2011 Year-End Report

Guild of Copy Editors 2011 Year-End Report

We have reached the end of the year, and what a year it has been! The Guild of Copy Editors was full of activity, and we achieved numerous important milestones in 2011. Read all about these in the Guild's 2011 Year-End Report.

Highlights
  • Membership grows to 764 editors, an increase of 261
  • Report on coordinators' elections
  • Around 1,000 articles removed through six Backlog elimination drives
  • Guild Plans for 2012
  • Requests page report
  • Sign up for the January 2012 Backlog elimination drive!


Get your copy of the Guild's 2011 Year-End Report here
On behalf of the Guild, we take this opportunity to wish you Season's Greetings and Happy New Year. We look forward to your support in 2012!
– Your 2011 Coordinators: Diannaa (lead), The Utahraptor, and Slon02 and SMasters (emeritus).

Sent on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors using AWB on 06:39, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Outrageous plagiarism

Note that I've outrageously stolen your work (with credit) in the preparation of this AFD of Ehsan Mehmood Khan's wikipedia page. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:simple/complex 19:06, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Heh, I'm glad you found it useful. Also, although I knew it would probably have to go to AfD, I'm glad I wasn't the one who had to do it...bleh, that would've been messy... Anyway, thanks :) NLinpublic (talk) 19:17, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Alyo. You have new messages at Sadads's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Quick response again, Sadads (talk) 19:29, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter, Q4 2011

The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter
Volume 4, No. 4 — 4th Quarter, 2011
Previous issue | Next issue

Project At a Glance
As of Q4 2011, the project has:

Content

Project Navigation
To receive future editions of this newsletter, click here to sign up on the distribution list.

MuZemike delivered by MuZebot 06:33, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Regarding Mohammad Iqbal

  • Hi,Nolelover, article Mohammad Iqbal is under criteria for speedy deletion,copyright,can you tell which section should be rewritten,or whole article?.copyright subsection,military career is in question,but I cannot find contents,where to start,can you help regarding that,Iqbal is national poet of Pakistan and India.Thanks. Justice007 (talk) 19:44, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Sorry political career instead of military career,and I found on the talk page,but question remains,whole contents should be rewritten,images removel,and ?,a bit confusion,Justice007 (talk) 20:02, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
    • Unfortunately, the entire article is a copyright violation. In this case, the entire article will have to be deleted, and then rewritten. I'm going to copy the code offline so that all of the images and such aren't completely lost, and then we can recreate it after. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 20:06, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

http://www.disna.us/LIFE_OF_IQBAL.html


TB

Hello, Alyo. You have new messages at NoleLover's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Dogsoli (talk) 08:26, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Ehsan Mehmood Khan

Hi Nolelover, I suspect we have yet another sockpuppet at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ehsan Mehmood Khan repeating the 'Keep and Expand' mantra. New SPA. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:45, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Ah well, I guess we can trust the closing admin to make the correct decision. Not much we can do, but thanks for the note. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 01:13, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Doon School update

As per your your wonderful suggestion, I have made a sub-section titled 'Extracurricular activities' and shifted other things under it. The page, indeed, looks more organised now. Thanks :) Merlaysamuel (talk) 12:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, but I am watching the Doon School, so its fine to keep discussion there...that way spy can see too. :) Nolelover Talk·Contribs 13:35, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Cleanup Barnstar
Thanks for your removal of cruft, etc. from Cody Martin! I had been trying to remove cruft a couple months ago, but I had hit a roadblock where I wasn't sure what warranted removal and what should have been kept. However, after you removed those things, I realized just how crufty they were (I'm weird like that). Anyway, thanks again! - Purplewowies (talk) 16:34, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
...and there's still a lot more! Speaking of that, how would you feel about a character merge? Maybe the main five or six into one list? There's just so much unsourced material in there...Regardless, thanks for the barnstar! It is much appreciated. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 16:59, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
About a merge, since you're the second person to suggest it to me (the first being here), I'd have to say I feel it's okay and probably even beneficial to merge them. I mean, I'm kinda partial to the characters having articles if at all possible (though that may just be my fangirl-ness of this show trying to butt in), but I had real trouble trying to find anything real-world about Cody, reception especially. And the group of character articles are mostly undersourced in terms of real world treatment, with London by far the most real world sourced of the group. Two questions:
  1. What would happen to any creation or reception (i.e. real-world) sections? Would they exist after the merge? (I'm quite sure they would be unless they were unencyclopedic/unsourced, but I'd like to make sure.)
  2. Would the characters be merged into a new article or an already existing one?
- Purplewowies (talk) 19:36, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
  1. The logical thing would be to have a subsection discussing just that. So it would be ==London== then content, then ===Reception (or something)=== then content, then ==Next person==. That sound good?
  2. Were it up to me I would probably create List of ... Characters, and merge the already created list of minor characters into it. Everyone wins, especially the people who only have to watch one article, instead of 15. ;) Nolelover Talk·Contribs 21:18, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Works for me. :) I think your suggestion for where the articles would go is a good one. We should just merge all the characters into one character list. - Purplewowies (talk) 01:34, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Exactly. I'll try to work on that...soon...I hope. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 01:38, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Anybody (like, say, me) could perform such a merge, right? Or do we need more consensus? I'd be happy (though a bit nervous) to merge the articles myself if you don't have time. - Purplewowies (talk) 03:47, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Go right ahead! I would create a new article, copy each individual article there (and severely trim them), then add the list of minor characters and create redirects all around. Just make sure you correctly attribute the material in your edit summaries ("merging and redirect to [[]]", "merging material from [[]]", etc). Nolelover Talk·Contribs 13:55, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
After attempting to merge the articles around two hours ago, I think it would be best to seek more consensus, since the merge was reverted pretty quickly after being done. - Purplewowies (talk) 08:18, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Mmm....AL makes some good points. Maybe it would just be better to let well enough alone. =/ Nolelover Talk·Contribs 14:27, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

THANKS

Many thanks for your recent changes(introducing further reading was quite thoughtful) on the Doon School page. Also for saving it from being vandalised. Thanks :-) 141.0.9.14 (talk) 19:02, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Glad to help :) Nolelover Talk·Contribs 19:04, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

A cup of tea.

I appreciate your interest towards Mohammad Iqbal,a cup of tea,-put some honey in it. Thanks,Nolelover. Justice007 (talk) 18:58, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
Haha, thanks Justice! Nolelover Talk·Contribs 23:54, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Alyo. You have new messages at Rsrikanth05's talk page.
Message added 06:25, 14 January 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

-- Rsrikanth05 (talk) 06:25, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Your input is needed on the SOPA initiative

Hi Nolelover,

You are receiving this message either because you expressed an opinion about the proposed SOPA blackout before full blackout and soft blackout were adequately differentiated, or because you expressed general support without specifying a preference. Please ensure that your voice is heard by clarifying your position accordingly.

Thank you.

Message delivered as per request on ANI. -- The Helpful Bot 16:39, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Articles for Creation Appeal

Articles for Creation urgently needs your help!

Articles for Creation is desperately short of reviewers! We are looking for urgent help, from experienced editors, in reviewing submissions in the pending submissions queue. Currently there are 1244 submissions waiting to be reviewed.

Do you have what it takes?
  1. Are you familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines?
  2. Do you know what Wikipedia is and is not?
  3. Do you have a working knowledge of the Manual of Style, particularly article naming conventions?
  4. Are you autoconfirmed?
  5. Can you review submissions based on their individual merits?

If the answer to these questions is yes, then please read the reviewing instructions and donate a little of your time to helping tackle the backlog.

Heh, and where was I when I first saw the orange bar? Nolelover Talk·Contribs 20:09, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Why... I'm going to bump this down to a managable level soon, so don't worry. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 21:18, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation

S-equol, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia!

Kevin Rutherford (talk) 20:55, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
The system thinks I submitted this because I added a "-->" and unhid this. Should have gone User:MEGComm. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 21:14, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Win!

Please

  • Hi,I just wanted to ask you,I mean on your talk page,that,

" Hi,can you make external links shorter and proper so that I can use it in references to,relating article Tahir Naqvi.Those are all in Urdu,one is well reliable source from daily online newspaper,USA,London based.Thanks".Justice007 (talk) 14:02, 15 January 2012 (UTC) ,but I left message my own talk page instead yours.Isn't it stupidity of me!.Justice007 (talk) 21:46, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Hehe, it happens to all of us. :p Unfortunately, I could find no way to shorten the links. I guess it's because the URL has urdu characters in it, and therefore has to use a special code. Just go ahead and use those long links...nothing we can do, as far as I can see. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 01:10, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Alyo. You have new messages at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wikify.
Message added 18:01, 19 January 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Assassin'S creed T - E - C - G - 18:01, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism?

The changes in the article in question is not an act of vandalism. It is about getting the facts right. I have also provided information which was not included in the article in question, North Coast Cartel.

P.S. When I was 14, a member of said cartel, in a drunken rage, pointed a gun at me as I exited a nightclub because he fancied my girlfriend - back then they allowed people who were underage into nightclubs. If there is anyone who wants knowledge spread about this nefarious cartel, it's me. But I would very much appreciate it if it were done in an accurate manner.

Thank You Very Much,

Have a Nice Day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.109.127.214 (talk) 18:12, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

My apologies for labeling your edits vandalism. You are right; I was wrong to do so. However, you need to know that you can't just revert everyone, even if you are right. Then, regardless of the content, your editing becomes disruptive. Simply reverting and edit-warring with three or four editors will never be productive - your best bet is to go to the article's talk page and explain your situation. I'm rather busy IRL atm, but if you wish, I can help you in a day or two. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 15:50, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

You've got mail!

Hello, Alyo. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

SarahStierch (talk) 22:10, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

December 2011 wikification barnstars!

The Iron Wikification Barnstar
For wikifying 10 articles during the drive, Nolelover, I hereby award you the Iron Wikification Barnstar! Congratulations! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 08:39, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

And also, because I've always found this really helps during a hectic academic period:

Wilhelmina Will has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. You can spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

To spread the goodness of cookies, you can add {{subst:Cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cookie on the giver's talk page with {{subst:munch}}!

Wilhelmina Will has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. You can spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

To spread the goodness of cookies, you can add {{subst:Cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cookie on the giver's talk page with {{subst:munch}}!

Enjoy! :) Wilhelmina Will (talk) 08:39, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

I did, and thanks again! Nolelover Talk·Contribs 15:53, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Recent changes to the Doon School page

Thank you for cleaning up the article. But I strongly feel that 'Historic links' and 'Exchanges should be out of Affiliations'. That is because it gives out the wrong idea. A school is affiliated to an examination board or an organization NOT other schools! I hope you understand what I'm saying. Let us change it. Merlaysamuel (talk) 07:51, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm gonna copy this to the talk page and reply there. No need for discussion here. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 13:56, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Per your comment on the Wide left AfD...

I'm sorely tempted to try and create Peyton Manning's neck as an article and see what happens, just as a case study. :) MSJapan (talk) 20:19, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

*pounds head* WP:Beans Nole, why didn't you remember beans!
Well, I see two immediate concerns: Troy Polamalu's hair doesn't have an article, so why should his neck? Troy's hair clearly has more lasting notability... b) Would that article have to follow BLP, or should WP:Biographies of living parts of people become a blue link? Those aside, as I stated at the AfD, we have the sourcing to make it past GA. :D Nolelover Talk·Contribs 20:58, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

feathering the scope

Hi, i've heard you've had some issues with my recent page "feathering the scope". I have created that page as i have many requests to make a page on it and i think it is a page that people (some) will find useful and helpful so please, please could you withdraw your issues so the page can continue to help people who want to know about "feathering the scope" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Probeast645 (talk • contribs) 15:05, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi there Probeast, and welcome to Wikipedia. First, I want to thanks you for your submission. You've obviously put some work into you article, so I'll try to answer this the best I can. Now, take two minutes and read this page. It's short. :) Then tell me, does "feathering the scope" have multiple reliable, independent sources discussing it? If so, then please add those to the article. If not, then it will be deleted. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 15:12, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of my latest contribution "Project'Or RIA"

Hi Nolelover,

first let me thank you, for your deeply commitment agains missuse of Wikipedia.

There are lot of open source initiative with same deep commitment as you did. One is "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dotproject", another is "Project'Or RIA". Dotproject is dealing with the same topic as Project'Or RIA communtiy, but with another approach.

It is very interessting, that dotprojects contribution is approved and my contribution is deleted. I set up my contribution page with nearly the same content as dotproject (and we know, dotproject is approved). And now you delete my contribution "Project'Or RIA". I'm sure you see, from an external perspective, it looks there are double standards applied.

To clarify my person. I have no commercial interest in this open souce product. I'm a convinced user of this product and contribute a lot of my privat lifetime to this project community.

I can't see any reason, why my contribution is deleted. And if there is a reason to delete, than you have to apply this to all contributions which dealing in the same field.

Thanks for your kind support.

cleverchild. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.122.80.37 (talk) 08:33, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi there 62. First of all, each article is judged on its own merits, so dotProject makes absolutely no difference to whether or not your article will be kept. However, you might be interested in knowing that I have nominated dotProject for deletion as well. Regardless, there was a very good reason why your article was deleted: read WP:42 (it's short), and tell me if Project'Or passes that "test". Yes, I should apply this standard to all contributions in the field. However, I'm a volunteer, and I don't have to spend all my time looking for non-notable software, and no one else has to either. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 14:11, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Your review at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Two Upbuilding Discourses, 1843

Thanks for the review. You can delete this page. 11614soup 17:47, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks for your work. :) Nolelover Talk·Contribs 17:51, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Your review at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/rough diamonds

Hello,

Thank you for your feedback on our suggested "Rough Diamond" wikipedia page. We understand a wikipedia page for "Diamonds" already exists but the information for rough diamonds on that page is limited to its history tied to De Beers and and what happens to rough diamonds as they undergo the cutting and polishing process. There is a history and use of rough diamonds that is separate and different enough from the history and use of cut/polished diamonds to warrant a separate page. The top wikipedia search result for "Rough Diamonds" (plural) currently stands as a rock album, which we believe is incomplete information.

A wikipedia page for "Rough Diamond" (singular) consists of a one line description. We would merely like to build a more robust description and explanation of rough diamonds so that the public can better understand how it is different from a cut/polished diamond.

Thanks for your consideration and let us know if you have any further questions. Mjshampine (talk) 18:05, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi there Mjshampine, and thank you for your work and submission. I think you're mixing up the pages Diamond and Diamond (gemstone). The Diamond page should be about the rough stone (while Diamond (gemstone) should be about the cut product), so you should feel free to add your material there. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 18:29, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Article creation on "Kidwai nagar"

Hi, I am trying to create a new article named "Kidwai Nagar East", but I am new here and pretty much unaware how to submit it successfully without any errors. As I tried to Submit and re-submit my article, but always get a message that speaks about some issues to be fixed before it get accepted and I can't figure it out how to do it correctly.


Please Help

Arvind.southdelhi (talk) 14:01, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi there Arvind. I declined your submission because all articles that pass through the Articles for Creation process must have at least one reliable source. I know this sounds goofy, but do have a reference for that location? Has it been written about in newspapers, magazines, online articles (not blogs), etc? Nolelover Talk·Contribs 14:04, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Newbie needs help

No, I do not know how to use the word count tool, so I guess I don't know how to make a PB&J sandwich either :-). I do know how to use the word count function on Word and Open Office. I've used both programs. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please be patient with me as I am technically a senior citizen. hahahaha Quill and Pen (talk) 22:34, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Hehe, no problem. I'm glad to see you decided to help out with copyediting (and Wikipedia in general), and I probably should have guessed your age from your username. ;-) Anyway, since you have imported the tool, it should already be working for you. Now, whenever you open up an article, the button (page size) will be in the collapsed "Toolbox" menu on your left. In this image, it would appear in the extreme bottom left, right under "Special pages". You'll know when you've clicked the right button, because more of the text will be highlighted and some "Document statistics" will appear at the top. To remove that, click the "page size" button again. If the button is not there at all, then we'll need to re-import the script. Tell me if you've got it. :) Nolelover Talk·Contribs 22:54, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Birbal Jha

  • Please spare a bit time to take a look at Birbal Jha,it has been deleted twice,I have edited and cited to my best but it seems to me that there is some promotional elements working behind it,may be I am wrong,can you assist me?.Thanks.Justice007 (talk) 22:49, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
  • I think there three images are much,and somehow promotional,the subject as like,I don't know,do you know?.Please assist me again.Thanks.Justice007 (talk) 19:43, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
    • I agree that they were probably uploaded with a somewhat promotional reasoning, but they really don't break any rules that I know of, so I don't think there's really any reason to remove them. However, I will trim the captions. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 20:09, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
For your (talk page stalker) work. Ankit Maity Talk | contribs 04:57, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Ankit. :) I hope you don't mind (and if you ever do just tell me to buzz off), but copyright is a very tough issue so I want to make sure that we're giving the correct information. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 20:12, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Oh, please who would ask such a hardworking editor to buzz off.--Ankit Maity Talk | contribs 11:27, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

TB

Hello, Alyo. You have new messages at Omer123hussain's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Omer123hussain (talk) 21:24, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

allama iqbal url

url to the first source is different from the other details in the source, ex: the source says that EI was published in 2006 where as the url=EI was published in 2004 and etc, may be or may not be it will be questioned in future while during FA review. regards and happy editing. --Omer123hussain (talk) 21:59, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Then create a new reference. You can't use two {{cite}} templates in one <ref></ref> tag. Better yet, remove the book source and only use the online reference, if the only difference is the year. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 22:06, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
The authors and publishers are also different,.--Omer123hussain (talk) 09:13, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Your review at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Richard Coughlan (vlogger)

I tried to create a draft article, I was told it needs references. I am trying to insert three, but only one of them will come up when I click save page. I think I will need help with this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Richard_Coughlan_%28vlogger%29 132.234.251.222 (talk) 08:09, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Tell you what. If you just copy the URLs into the article, I'll see if I can fix it up. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 08:12, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

175.176.202.9 (talk) 13:17, 31 January 2012 (UTC) Its still me, I've just moved

Unfortunately, Youtube channels are not reliable sources, especially ones published by him. What you need are articles about the guy: has he been profiled in newspapers, or online websites (not blogs)? That's what you need to establish notability. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 14:11, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Alyo. You have new messages at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wikify#Next drive?.
Message added 19:24, 31 January 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Assassin'S creed T - E - C - G - 19:24, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

TUSC token d857d4592c6dbdfdbbab992c7c07fe9c

I am now proud owner of a TUSC account! Nolelover Talk·Contribs 20:30, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Archive 1←Archive 5Archive 6Archive 7Archive 8Archive 9Archive 10

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Alyo/Archive_7&oldid=1147995647"