User talk:Alteaven

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Hi

Nice to see you in here too. I've replied your comment in Talk:Ha (Javanese). I'm thinking probably we should make a Javanese script userbox here :D Bennylin (talk) 13:58, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Salah satu fungsi tabel glyph adalah menunjukkan bahwa glyph-glyph yang berjumlah ratusan tersebut (terutama glyph yang digabung, misalnya 'suku', 'cakra', 'pengkal', dsb.) harus dibuat satu-per satu oleh pembuat font. Daftar lengkap glyph-glyph yang menyatu bisa Anda lihat di jv:Pitulung:Nulis Aksara Jawa/Glyph. Bennylin (talk) 14:04, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kalau boleh tahu di Javanese script#Letter Ordering bagian ISO 15919 rujukannya apa ya? Lalu Ra Agung dan Ka Sasak bagaimana? Selain itu apakah bisa dilengkapi dengan simbol ISO dan IPA untuk masing-masing vokalnya? Terima kasih. Bennylin (talk) 16:51, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Huruf berlabel ISO 15919 tersebut adalah transkripsi umum untuk bunyi-bunyi dalam bahasa Sansekerta. Pengaturannya dapat dilihat di artikel Brahmic scripts, dimana berbagai rumpun aksara Brahmi (termasuk Jawa) direpresentasikan dengan bahasa Sansekerta. Setahu saya, Ra agung tidak memiliki akar Sansekerta, jadi kemungkinan besar huruf tersebut merupakan penemuan independen dan bukan merupakan set asli Hanacaraka. Perihal ini sama dengan Ka Sasak, yang merupakan penemuan suku Sasak untuk transkripsi bunyi /q/. Alteaven (talk) 11:40, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Batik

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OK, I've copy-edited and checked the article, and it's almost ready for GA. I have ticked the majority of the criteria in the review. The main outstanding issue is that several paragraphs remain uncited; I have marked these individually in the article. Please add citations for these, or remove unverifiable text. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:04, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We made it - congratulations. I hope you'll get to work on ikat which certainly needs it; and there's plenty of scope for articles on subjects like kain panjang and indeed subtopics of batik to go into more detail on batik kraton and so on. Then you could make your own navbox just for batik! All the best, and well done. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:40, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. If you haven't seen the book by Gillow and Dawson do look it up, or better buy it, it's well worth it. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:40, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well done

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	Congratulations on your recent expansion and GA promotion of the batik article! A very important topic, and one interesting for Indonesians and foreigners alike! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:00, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Batik

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Javanese language Transliteration

Hi, Alteaven

Thanks for asking, and I'm sorry because I'm a newbie so I din't know how to start this conversation , and yes, maybe å is quite uncommon for ordinary peoples, but I should tell you that in Javanese language pages, there is many "wrong" word in transliteration, for example:

First, In "number" section, I've noticed that there is: 20 = rong puluh - kalih doso, the editors use doso instead of dasa/dåså. The word doso is absolutely wrong/false, because the right/true one is dasa(read: dåså)

Second, the word Kromo and Madyo, it's also wrong, because the word should written in Kråmå(Krama) and Madyå(Madya).

Third, Javanese language recognized vocal "a, å, â, i, ì, u, ù, é, è, ê, o, and ò" in order to avoid mispelling/pronouncing, so I decided to use "å", for example, in Javanese there is a word "lara" that pronounced "lårå", but most people that always written "loro" instead of "lara"/"lårå", "lårå" means "illness", and "loro" means "two". so, å and o is different think in Javanese.

Sorry for bad English, I'm Javanese speaker.--Mufidkce (talk) 10:20, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oh begitu ya? Begini:

Pertama, saya juga setuju, kalau dilihat dari prespektif penutur asli memang jelas mereka sudah tahu bagaimana cara membedakannya. Namun begitu, banyak diantara para "penutur asli" ini "tidak lagi" memakai penulisan secara tepat dan benar sehingga menjadi rancu.

contoh: kata yang seharusnya ditulis aja justru ditulis ojo padahal harusnya dibaca /ɔjɔ/ malah salah terbaca menjadi /ōjō/, jelas ini kan "penyalahgunaan" bahasa Jawa namanya. :D

Kedua, saya sering menemui orang yang sama sekali belum paham bahasa Jawa (dan apalagi yang ingin belajar bahasa Jawa) mengalami kesulitan dalam membedakan kosakata a yang harusnya dibaca /a/,/ɔ/, maupun /e/. Nah, maksud saya itu begitu, kenapa saya memakai a, å, dan â. Saya ingin mempermudah orang-orang yang ingin mempelajari bahasa Jawa namun masih (maaf) "amatir". (meskipun menurut anda tidak estetis dan kurang jelas)

Ketiga, mengenai referensi, apakah masih ada yang perlu saya "perlengkap"? karena saya sudah mencantumkan "nama buku, penulis, halaman, dan tahun terbitnya." :o

Matur Sembah Nuwun atas saran, jawaban, dan penjelasannya :)––Mufidkce (talk) 13:14, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Baik, terima kasih atas penjelasannya, nanti saya akan ikuti saran anda.

Dan mengenai huruf a yang padanannya e, itu maksud saya bukan e "enak", namun e "terbang", penggunaan huruf a yang padanannya e (terbang) itu bisa anda temukan dalam kata "kajaba" (bhs Indo: kecuali).

Mengenai kesalahan saya pada penulisan IPA, saya mohon maaf dan harap maklum, karena saya masih merasa kesulitan dalam menuliskan IPA

sekian dan terima kasih :)--Mufidkce (talk) 23:55, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: Javanese script

It's a little better. I'd recommend putting the article up for peer review, though. Aesthetics don't matter that much for GA; my main issue was sourcing. Tezero (talk) 18:21, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Other Indonesian Traditional Scripts

I thought this might interest you a bit. http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2011/11091-miller-script-report.pdf Also, if you could make an Lampung script article, that would be awesome. There's an Indonesian version, but I can't read it really. Smettems (talk) 02:51, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Alteaven, great work, but we're in danger of going into an edit spiral. I've already copy-edited the entire article twice, and this morning I have come across fresh copy-errors that needed fixing. I hope we now have a stable text. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:39, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh sorry. Okay, I'm done. Previously they were some parts that are dominated only by web articles, and I tried to supplement that with journal articles and book. Thank you Alteaven (talk) 07:42, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The addition of reliable sources has been most welcome. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:21, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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		This is presented to you by the GAR process in recognition of your sterling work in helping Batik retain its Good Article status. Please feel free to display the GA icon on your userpage. Keep up the good work! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:06, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]