User talk:Altay74
May 2023
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Hello, I'm BilCat. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Al-Zarrar tank, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. BilCat (talk) 04:18, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- @BilCat hello, the source for my edit is already present elsewhere in the article. my edit was more of an observation derived from that Altay74 (talk) 04:23, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- Which source? BilCat (talk) 04:25, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- @BilCat it's the first reference in the article Altay74 (talk) 04:31, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- Which source? BilCat (talk) 04:25, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
Recent edit reversion
[edit]In this edit here, I reverted some information that appears to be a violation of our copyright policy.
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September 2023
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Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
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Blocked as a sockpuppet
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{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Girth Summit (blether) 19:55, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
Altay74 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Kindly consider unblocking me. I've been blocked from editing indefinitely for being accused of being a sock of a user called Pr0pulsion123 or an alt-account of NomanPK44 even though I'm not. This, altay74, is the only wikipedia account I have and use and I honestly have no clue how i got blocked over this accusation where the only arguments given were "they're in the same country" and have similar editing patterns. I was also warned for being in an "edit war" with another user on certain articles. At the time i was unaware that this would cause an issue as i hadn't violated the 3-revert rule and figured there would be no other issues, but I'll stop the edit-warring too if unbanned
Decline reason:
"They're in the same country" and "similar editing patterns" is sufficient grounds to determine sock puppetry. This isn't a court of law where it must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. It's also possible that this is meat puppetry, which is treated the same. 331dot (talk) 06:58, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
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- 331dot (and any other admins who may address future unblock requests) - 'in the same country' and 'similar editing patterns' only describe the relationship between this user and the NomanPK44 sockfarm. I am very confident, however, that this account is being used by the same person behind the Pr0pulsion 123 account (which was blocked in July as part of the سب سے بڑی گڑبڑ case). They overlap on multiple IP ranges, and on multiple articles, and there are multiple instances of this account using photographs that were uploaded by Pr0pulsion 123; there is very little room for doubt on that question. Girth Summit (blether) 07:07, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
Altay74 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Hello, kindly consider unblocking me again. For starters, I was blocked on wrongful accusations of sockpuppetry which is not true. I AM NOT PROPULSION123 OR NOMAN44PK, NOR DO I KNOW EITHER OF THESE GUYS. The relationship between my account and theirs, on the basis of which i was accused of sockpuppeting, was that we're from the same country, edit articles of similar topics and i used same pictures as them. Personally i dont believe these are reasonable grounds for investigation, my country has 240 million people and obviously there will be many people who would have an interest in their nation's military history. Plus, i used those pictures because, simply put, they were the most suitable ones for the topic i was writing about. There's a limited amount of pictures about 60 year old events, it's not like i could go back in time and take new pictures of my own. Also, about the IP overlap, I'm not very knowledgeable in this matter but from what i've read, Pakistan doesn't have an abundance of IPv4 addresses the same way many western nations do and one person i've spoken to said that whilst living in Pakistan, every time he logged onto his apple ID from a different device, it showed the IP as originating in or around Islamabad, despite the fact that he lived in a completely different part of the country. Given all this, i don't think that the IP overlap and interest overlap can be considered reasonable criteria. There's also some other matters i'd like to mention since i figure they might be brought up in response. Shortly after i was banned, another user akaspo left a message on my talk page asking if i had any social media. I gave them my instagram id and there, they asked me if i still had the references for one of my articles, the Battle of Kasur 1965, since they were interested in restoring the article (it had been deleted, along with my other articles, after i was banned). However i told akaspo i no longer had them and that was the end of our conversation. There was no coordinated movement or anything whatsoever, since i was pretty sure that was against the wikipedia rules and i was still trying to get my account unbanned at the time. One last matter, i created a second account by the name of mudakazal, which i edited from a few times after this account (altay74) was blocked. I apologize for creating it to evade my ban. However, i maintain that the ban on this account was unjust, and the frustration i felt after my wrongful ban and failed unblock request is what motivated me to create a second account (which i acknowledge is against the rules and i fully apologize for it). TO SUMMARIZE: I am not Propulsion123 or Noman44pk, i did not talk to any of them or coordinate with them, i didnt even know about these accounts until i was banned. I did give another user my social media, but i did not engage in any off-site coordination with them. I did create a second account to evade my ban, which i admit was a wrong move. The sockpuppet accusations on which this account was banned are simply not true and i believe i was unjustly banned, however I also acknowledge my wrongdoing with creating a new account but, as i've already emphasized, i sincerely regret doing that. So i kindly request that I be given one more chance and this account's ban be lifted. Thanks.Altay74 (talk) 8:14 am, 30 December 2023, last Saturday (7 days ago) (UTC−5)
Decline reason:
This, though verbose, does not address the behavioral evidence. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:20, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
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@Deepfriedokra: Which behavioral evidence are you refrring to? I tried to cover everything in my appeal but i may have missed some things as it has been a few months since i was blocked. Altay74 (talk) 12:51, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, not going to tell you how to evade detection in the future-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:57, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- I was just asking what evidence you were talking about man... I'm trying to get my account unblocked, not make a new one to avoid detection. I already made that mistake once (with mudakazal account) and I have no intention of doing it again. Point is, this account was my only account and it was unjustly blocked with weak evidence Altay74 (talk) 06:16, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
Altay74 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Can I please be unblocked? I've already talked about why the reasons behind my ban were flimsy at best. In any case I promise to follow the wikipedia rules and avoid edit-warring going forward if the ban is lifted. I've also apologized for the attempted ban evasion and haven't done anything similar since. Just give me another chance. Altay74 (talk) 10:33, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Decline reason:
This adds nothing substantial to your previous, declined, unblock requests. Yamla (talk) 11:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
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@Yamla: i've already tried explaining how I'm not a sockpuppet before, there's nothing more that i CAN add that I haven't already said. Wikipedia was a fun hobby for me and I miss it, so I'd love the chance to do it again. I'm more mindful of wikipedia's rules now and I'll stick to them if unblocked. No more edit-warring, or trying to "force my POV" on articles (without proper citations) etc etc. I promise I won't cause any trouble.