User talk:Ale jrb/Scripts/igloo

Suggestion: AIV-watch

About a year ago someone was working with me on developing a standalone admin dashboard that would watch WP:AIV to allow for easy review of reports and blocking of vandals. Unfortunately for one reason or another it never came to fruition. Adding something like this to igloo would be capital. –xeno^talk 15:37, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

It's funny you should say that. I've been actively considering this for ages, and I have a complete plan of how it would work, I'm just not sure I would add it as part of igloo. I also have several other projects at the moment, and I'm somewhat loathe to start another. I might give it a go though, I dunno. Ale_Jrb^talk 19:26, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

I'd really love it to be part of igloo because I have this hilarious mental image of me hunkered down in an igloo, ice fishing, and using the AIV-watch part of the module. I probably won't do much of the 'huggling' aspect though. –xeno^talk 19:29, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Lol. My concern is that it would somewhat restrict its usefulness, because many people may object to having to install and launch igloo to use it. I wouldn't use huggle to watch AIV, for example, but I have easyblock. Ale_Jrb^talk 20:14, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Sure, but the concept that I have in my head is something that would automatically update the list of people at AIV, provide easy to preview diff links of their edits and the warnings left on their page, etc. and then give convenient options to block just like easyblock.js.. It just seems like a good fit for igloo which also does dynamic updating. Was your idea something else? –xeno^talk 14:49, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

No, that's pretty much what I was envisioning. I don't really see where that would fit into igloo as it stands though, except as a separate module of some kind, which would sort of defeat the point of including it in igloo. Ale_Jrb^talk 19:37, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Yea, I suppose you're right. Oh well. No ice fishing for me.... –xeno^talk 19:41, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

OMG!!!

It works on Vector! NERDYSCIENCEDUDE (✉ message • changes) 13:41, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't care. At all. Ale_Jrb^talk 16:55, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Come on then, tell us how you really feel! –xeno^talk 17:02, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

My point is that what Ale jrb said about igloo being monobook only is wrong. It does work on Vector. NERDYSCIENCEDUDE (✉ message • changes) 21:42, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

If it bothers you so much that it works when I said it doesn't, I will block the skin for you. ;) Ale_Jrb^talk 11:22, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

No, don't block the skin. I like using Igloo on Vector skin. ~NERDYSCIENCEDUDE (✉ message • changes) 12:46, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

That's good. Airplaneman ✈ 21:44, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Suggestion

Huggle allows users to ignore an IP or user at anytime. I have had 2 different users tell me that (I assume) they have reverted a vandal edit after mine so it reverts my edit and makes all my good edits as vandalism. Is there a similar mechanism to ignore a user on Igloo? Tommy2010 22:06, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh, come on, I already told him... You don't have to rub it in. :) Oh, wait... Two people? I'll have to see this. Hi878 (talk) 22:51, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Well actually now I know it's just you. But it screws up other igloo users I see. Tommy2010 23:32, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I sort of feel bad now... But not too bad. :) Hi878 (talk) 23:34, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

It's okay, no one is perfect. Tommy2010 00:03, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

There isn't at the moment, although there may be in the future. Until then, it's a question of people being a bit more careful before pressing revert, because it will only ever revert the edit that is currently displayed on screen. The problem is when it changes just before revert is pressed without the person noticing... Incidently, I have removed you from the blacklist, though it would have expired you in a few days anyway :). Ale_Jrb^talk 15:26, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks much. Tommy2010 21:48, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Correction: Huggle uses a "whitelist" for ignored users. Tommy2010 01:38, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk pages

Can you stop it displaying talk-page changes? Or is that going to be a filter option? --Smaug123 (talk) 20:32, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I completely missed this! You can do this with the filter system by whitelisting (setting score to a large relative negative) for page titles containing Talk:. Ale_Jrb^talk 21:30, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Excellent, thanks! --Smaug123 (talk) 21:44, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

other

i think this program stinks! I just spent like three hours adding info to a wiki article and then come back from getting a drink to see it removed by some fool using this damn robot! I don't know shit about robots but it seems to me that only a real person can tell a good edit from a bad edit. if all it does is ensure that the article never changes, then that sucks and is dumb cuz then there is no way to update the information. maybe i just don't know enough about how this works, either. either way, i am not a happy camper.24.243.2.132 (talk)Biggus_Dickus

All changes are reviewed by a person - igloo doesn't (and can't) make any decisions on its own. If someone has reverted you incorrectly, you should write a message on their talk page. Ale_Jrb^talk 21:31, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Yay igloo!

This script of yours is a godsend for doing RC patrol. When I found it, I was actually just about to start writing my own. I eagerly await your next version! Additionally, do you want any help with development? I am a programmer who is unemployed until September, and I need something to spend my time on :). --Falcon Darkstar Momot (talk) 04:48, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. :) Obviously, most of the igloo codebase is open, so if you want to edit it, go right ahead. I probably won't add it to my release (unless it's really good? :)) but hey. Ale_Jrb^talk 09:29, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I'll point out that neatness has never been my forte, however, so all of the above assumes you can read it. Ale_Jrb^talk 09:30, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I can't really find where the codebase is, with the exception of igloo.js. --Falcon Darkstar Momot (talk) 21:59, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Most of the main script is at User:Ale jrb/Scripts/iglooMain.js and the launcher is at User:Ale jrb/Scripts/iglooInterfaceHook.js. Ale_Jrb^talk 08:56, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

And the libraries are at User:Ale jrb/Scripts/waLib.js and User:Ale jrb/Scripts/waLib2.js. Ale_Jrb^talk 08:57, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Suggestions

• It looks like you are already working on whitelisting and custom revert actions, so I'm not going to expand too much on that, but it's something I need before Igloo can replace Huggle for me.
• I'm not seeing a way to easily check the articles I'm viewing for past vandalism that still needs reversion. This leads to an incomplete job of RC patrolling.
• Need to be able to drill down to the other contribs of a user before and after reverting their edits, to check for other questionable edits and possibly revert them as well.
• Need to be able to add templates to articles as they are reviewed, sometime cleanup tags need to be added.
• Need to easily be able to get to:

  The page being reviewed.

  The full history of the article being reviewed.

  The talk page of the article being reviewed.

  The talk page of the contributor.

  The contribs page of the contributor.

So far, Igloo looks really promising to me, but these things keep me from doing a good job with the tool right now. Triona (talk) 07:52, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

You can view the full history by hovering over the history button and pressing 'full history' - it will open in the window you started igloo with. Thanks for your thoughts - will definitely keep them in mind! Ale_Jrb^talk 18:22, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Also, can you make igloo compatible with IE or Safari? I don't have access to Chrome or Firefox. WikiCopter (radio • sorties • images • shot down) 23:48, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Screen shot

I think it would be appreciated if there was a screen shot or something similar th show users how to use it. Hazard-SJ ^Talk 07:39, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I have uploaded one. Gfoley4 / Wanna chat? 04:20, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

suggestion

Igloo should have a way to ignore edits fitting particular patterns (editor, edit summary regexp, etc). Right now it's apparently overreacting to an approved bot operation that is (on purpose) blanking a lot of articles without a bot flag as part of a big copyvio cleanup ((more info). It is (per prior discussion) running without a bot flag so that people watching those articles will get watchlist notifications of the blanking, but that's apparently causing it to trigger vandal detection. Note this bot will be blanking around 10,000 articles in the next few days, so this could get pretty chaotic. 69.111.195.229 (talk) 21:31, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

For reference, it can do - the filter system allows you to do this. Ale_Jrb^talk 14:45, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Whitelist

Is there a way to add editors to the whitelist?--Talktome^(Intelati) 01:29, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

There is a way for me to do it manually, but igloo whitelists most people automatically. Is there anyone in particular you had in mind? Ale_Jrb^talk 14:44, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Avoided (talk · contribs) Got a couple false positives from him.--Talktome^(Intelati) 15:25, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Opera Support

Is their any current/planned support for the web browser Opera? (I use it on occasion alongside Minefield and IE and was wondering if igloo worked with it) Thanks and All the Best, Mifter (talk) 21:37, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Try it. If it says 'browser not compatible' or something like that, Opera doesn't work. If Igloo starts up, it works. WikiCopter (radio • sorties • images • lost • defense • attack) 21:45, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Well it does give me a notice saying browser not compatible, but I was wondering if Igloo is set up to use user agent filtering (and if its not chrome or firefox to stop loading) or if it searches for support for a specific piece of coding in the browser. Best, Mifter (talk) 01:16, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

It does filter by user agent, but that's because those browsers that are filtered out don't work properly anyway, and I wanted to let people know why it wasn't working instead of them getting obscure session error messages, for exmaple. In particular, if I recall correctly, Opera doesn't allow igloo access to the referrer, which is one of the ways it maintains the session key. Until this changes, it won't work on Opera. Ale_Jrb^talk 12:21, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Why doesn't it work on Firefox Light that I use on my USB Sandisk drive? WikiCopter (radio • sorties • images • lost • defense • attack) 02:10, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Haven't got a clue, have never used that browser. Ale_Jrb^talk 13:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

It seems that masking Opera as Firefox (Right click > Edit Site Preferences... > Network > Browser identification) makes igloo work: [1] [2]. --AznBurger (talk) 17:21, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Freezes

For me, upon loading Igloo it always freezes at the line "- Checking browser for compatibility." I've cleared my cache. Any ideas what's wrong? I'm running Firefox 3.6.12 with the Vector skin. -- œ^™ 06:57, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Do you get any JavaScript errors? Try looking in the error console. Ale_Jrb^talk 13:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh yes. The error console is showing quite a bit of stuff.. I'm not sure how to interpret it though.. I'm getting a "return not in function" error, followed by a whole bunch of warning messages mostly saying stuff like "Error in parsing value for 'filter'. Declaration dropped." then another error saying "browserTest is null" This is all a bit out of my area of expertise ;) -- œ^™ 05:31, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Cool. igloo is expecting a user-agent string so it can perform it's browser check, but it's not finding one. Do you have a security program or addon concealing this? Ale_Jrb^talk 21:03, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Nope. I've tried running it 'clean' with nothing else running in the background and still the same thing. I've had problems in the past with many other scripts not wanting to work properly on my system.. I have no idea why.. must be some obscure setting somewhere. I've done trial and error troubleshooting but can't seem to track down the problem. -- œ^™ 05:26, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Just to check, download Chrome and see if it works on that. Might help to narrow it down a bit and see whether it's the browser, or something external to it. Ale_Jrb^talk 14:11, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Secure server?

Hi, is it a bug or a feature that I have to be logged into the insecure server to launch igloo? I get the bad token error when I try to start igloo from the secure server, but it works fine when I run it from the insecure page. Sailsbystars (talk • contribs • email) 18:29, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Originally, it was an unintended side effect, but I intend to keep it as-is for the moment, or it may lead people using the secure server to incorrectly assume that igloo uses a secure connection (you haven't technically left wikipedia, so the page would show as secure, but the connection to my server is insecure, plausibly causing confusion) - it doesn't. Ale_Jrb^talk 20:20, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

(4 months later) Not to bring up a dead topic, but can you add support for SSL now? I'm stuck with Twinkle on public networks because I don't want my Wikipedia password broadcasted out. To warn users, you could put up a big red sign on the startup page saying that it doesn't connect securely to your server. --Mithrandir^∞ (Talk!) (Opus Operis) 06:32, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

First, obviously, igloo does not have access to your Wikipedia login information - that's ridiculous. With that said, I think I make it sufficiently clear that igloo is connecting to a server that is not operated by the Wikimedia foundation. There are currently no plans to add secure support at this time. Ale_Jrb^talk 12:13, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Okay, but just FYI I wasn't talking about igloo getting my login info. I was talking about having to login to Wikipedia through the regular login, and having some bad person on that network possibly sniff my password. Also, I was talking about putting up a sign if you added SSL support. Anyway, thanks for the quick response. --Mithrandir^∞ (Talk!) (Opus Operis) 14:09, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

I need answers!

Hi. I tried installing igloo (Right page, did instructions correctly, use Windows, use Google Chrome) and it still won't work. All the anti-vandalism tools I can reasonably get my hands on are worthless cos they won't work! This is a real pain in the a*** because I would like to combat the vandals with something to assist rollback.--^{The Master} _{of Mayhem} 17:49, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

My server is currently experiencing problems. Unfortunately, you'll have to be patient. Sorry. Ale_Jrb^talk 20:36, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry, it's working... for now.--The Master of Mayhem 11:02, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Cannot connect to server & Feature request.

I am using Huggle for when I am on my PC. At night I like to use Igloo on my mac. It has been working for me for weeks and just recently I get an "Unable to connect to server" error after the 10 second countdown, (more like 2 minutes after that). I have restarted, cleared cache and so on but still get same error. It had been working but now no longer connects. A feature I would like to see is a way to make custom talk page entries (like huggle) sometimes I cannot revert due to it being just a minor edit that I would not consider a warnable offense. Thanks! Golgofrinchian ≤TALK≥ 21:21, 8 March 2011 (UTC) Here is the actual message: Warning: igloo could not connect to the remote server. Loading stopped.Golgofrinchian ≤TALK≥ 00:39, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

My server is currently experiencing problems. Unfortunately, you'll have to be patient. Sorry. Ale_Jrb^talk 20:36, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Good faith editor accidentally added to Igloo black list

Hi Ale jrb, unfortunately an edit by 10metreh (talk · contribs) was accidentally reverted by another Iglooer, so he's been automatically added to the blacklist. Could you remove him? Thanks. PhilKnight (talk) 17:55, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Done. Ale_Jrb^talk 18:49, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Igloo feature requests

Dear Ale jrb,

First of all, thank you for creating Igloo and making it available to all: it's a really awesome tool!

Secondly, as a default, Igloo reverts the edit and reports the user as a vandal. However, the user may not always be a vandal. Would it be then possible to have two buttons to revert: "revert as vandal" and "revert as AGF" (and maybe event a third one "revert with personal message"). If three buttons take up too much space, how about have dedicated keys to revert as AGF or a vandal. Currently, pressing the Q key revert and reports vandal. How about having another key report as AGF and yet another one for a personal message?

Finally, I have been playing around with filters. Not being a regular regexp programer, I thought it could be interesting to add default filters such as ignoring user pages, talk pages and wikipedia pages. Here is how I implemented these filters:

• if title regexmatch /Talk:?/ig
• if title regexmatch /User:?/ig
• if title regexmatch /Wikipedia?/ig

Sadly, these filters don't seem to work. Could you (or someone with more regexep skills than me) help me out with this? How about even adding these filters to the default filter list (even disabled by default)?

Again, thanks for your time in creating this great tool!

Xionbox^₪ 09:58, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Another feature request would be for Igloo to count in the warn-* templates. Currently, it seems, that Igloo only counts vandal templates (e.g. uw-vandal-*), which are added by Igloo and ClueBot-NG. However, the warn-* templates are used by WP:HG. Hence, there may be repeated / incoherence use of templates, as on the following user page: User_talk:82.111.87.220#March 2011.

Xionbox^₪ 10:10, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Has huggle recently changed it's warning templates? I'm sure it recognised them before. I'll look into the filters, but off the top of my head, I can't see why those wouldn't work. I'll look into it. Thanks. Ale_Jrb^talk 16:02, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

I looked into your filters - you aren't providing an action to the filter (you can also do all of them in the same filter). If you want to ignore an edit, you can use:

• set score absolute 0.0

anywhere in the filter to place it at the bottom of the list. Ale_Jrb^talk 16:10, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Blocking accounts when giving UW level 4 rather than after it

At the moment IGLOO appears to flag a UW level 4 and then if the user is a sysop and the apparent vandal is an anon IP, immediately suggests a block. This should only be done on the next identified vandalism when a level 4 has already been given and the apparent vandal has had an opportunity to change their behaviour. Fæ (talk) 06:41, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

igloo will offer to block if you attempt to revert a user, and there is already a recent level 4 warning on their page. It will not issue a level 4 warning and offer to block on the same edit. Ale_Jrb^talk 16:03, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

For the example in question, there was a previous level 4 but it was 4 months prior to my level 4 warning, which does not seem "recent" considering the context of what may be a dynamically allocated IP address.

Is there an existing consensus that makes it okay to ignore the intention of the words in a level 4 "final warning" and just block immediately because an old prior level 4 exists on the same page rather than waiting for the apparent vandal to fail to comply with the warning? Thanks Fæ (talk) 16:24, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

I have investigated, and I am unable to reproduce the problem - igloo will issue a new set of warnings if the existing warnings are old. Please provide lots more information, including:

• The page(s) you have experienced the error on.
• The user(s) who were effected.
• How do you reproduce it?
• What does the igloo information bar show when you are experiencing the problem?

Thanks, Ale_Jrb^talk 16:39, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

This diff was the level 4 issued by me from within IGLOO which then immediately followed with the option to block. Looking at the detail of the page history, the block option might have been automatically kicked off as I was still viewing the page from within IGLOO when the same IP made their next bad edit which I reverted here. I don't recall choosing this revert and my perception of events was that they were from the same single revert but looking at the records this could be my perception rather than the facts or perhaps due to a double-click on the icon. If IGLOO is designed to only offer a block based on a flagged edit after a uw-4 has been given then it sounds more like this is my misunderstanding rather than a possible bug. I'll take care to step carefully through the detail next time I'm offered the option and I'll stop and take a screen shot if anything seems odd, thanks for taking a look. Cheers Fæ (talk) 17:06, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Oh, OK, that might well be it. Thanks for reporting it anyway, let me know if it happens again. Ale_Jrb^talk 17:09, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Loss of trust

After the server used for igloo went craic multiple times, I don't trust igloo anymore. It is just so unreliable.--The Master of Mayhem 20:21, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

OK. Ale_Jrb^talk 21:39, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

It's working now... for how much longer is another matter entirely.--The copyeditor's corner 20:18, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Timeout settings

The application times out frequently in less than a minute (sometimes much less) when I am in the middle of correcting something or leaving a note for a user about an edit they made. Is there a way of setting a parameter to extend the period when timeout might occur, I'm particularly thinking of disabled access such as people with vision difficulties who might need longer to read text and take the actions needed to do a quality job on any reverts or fixes needed. Thanks Fæ (talk) 05:57, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

I may get round to rewriting most of igloo in the nearish future in order to take it out of alpha - it's unfortunate that life has been so busy these past months, but hey. When that happens, I'll keep this in mind. Cheers. Ale_Jrb^talk 21:36, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

You are not yet viewing a diff

Recently, when I tried to use Igloo, when I try to view any change, I get the message "You are not yet viewing a diff" on the diff view section. This seems to happen on various computers. My script file can be found here. — Waterfox ^~talk~ 00:03, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your report; it should now be working again correctly. Ale_Jrb^talk 10:23, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Parsing errors

Hi, IGLOO appears to be consistently falling over due to "XML Parsing Error: not well-formed". This is after 3 restarts and for all pages viewed as per the time of this message. Thanks Fæ (talk) 05:51, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your report; it should now be working again correctly. Ale_Jrb^talk 10:24, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Server problems?

Are there any known problems with the server, this is all I get when I try to start Igloo up:

Welcome to igloo! Please be patient while igloo starts up, as this can take some time.

- Checking for usergroups...

- Usergroup OK!

- Checking read API...

- Read API OK!

- Checking write API...

- Write API OK!

- Checking for igloo configuration page...

- Configuration page OK!

- Checking igloo status...

- igloo enabled OK!

- Notice: igloo is about to establish a connection with iglooNet - a remote, non-Wikimedia server. To prevent this connection, or close it once established, click here.

Connecting in (skip): 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ... done!

- Launching session manager...

- Session manager loaded.

- Attempting to connect to the server, requesting token...

- Warning: igloo could not connect to the remote server. Loading stopped.

RandomAct^{(talk to me)} 21:14, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

No, it's working fine for me. Ale_Jrb^talk 11:41, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Not loading

I just got my rollback rights today and was eager to give igloo a whirl. But, it's not loading. It's not able to connect to the remote server. --Nathan2055^{talk - review} 23:13, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Oh, sorry about that. It is, however, working fine for me which suggests that the server is working fine. Try again. If it still isn't working, make sure that any security software or addons for your browser are configured correctly and try temporarily disabling them. Ale_Jrb^talk 09:51, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Reverting non-vandalism

Hi, just started using igloo today. Not sure if I missed it somewhere but I was looking for a way of reverting a user without tagging a vandalism message on the talk page. Would like to do that when somebody did an obvious editing mistake with no bad intentions. Thanks --Nepenthes (talk) 07:27, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Can't do that yet without going to the actual page and using revert. The reason I came to this page in the first place was to place a request for that. pluma♫ ♯ 18:49, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Pluma. --Nepenthes (talk) 08:41, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Talk Pages

Hmm, not sure if I'm missing something but my filter doesn't appear to work. The documentation doesn't exactly detail what to use in a filter to do a specific thing. Here's my filter:

1. // This filter blocks Talk and User pages
3. if title contains Talk:
4. if title contains User:
5. if title contains User talk:
6. if title contains Wikipedia talk:
7. set score relative -0.1

Osarius : T : C : Been CSD'd? 12:11, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

watchlist

Is there a setting where you can make things not added to your watchlist? I have to remove like 500 pages right now. >.> Glacialfox (talk) 18:41, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

That's a problem with Twinkle, not Igloo. Go to your Twinkle preferencess page and uncheck the boxes that say stuff like, "Add user talk page to watchlist when notifying". I think that should solve your problem; it did for me. Happy editing! pluma♫ ♯ 18:28, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

I believe the setting that's usually responsible for this can be found at My preferences > Watchlist > Add pages I create to my watchlist - you should untick this if you don't want pages added when they are created (it's this setting that adds IP talk pages to your watchlist when you warn them for the first time). Ale_Jrb^talk 17:45, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Vs.

Could anyone outline to me the benefits of Igloo vs. Huggle and the opposite too. I already use Huggle, but I'm curious about Igloo. Dan653 (talk) 21:50, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Igloo is faster, simpler, and easier to use, but Huggle has more options. Also, Huggle finds vandalism everywhere, even where it isn't, but Igloo sometimes misses vandalism. I hope that was helpful, and happy editing! pluma♫ ♯ 18:19, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

A bit more in the help guide?

Hi, this may seem obvious to others, but as a long term IGLOO user, I have never worked out what the text box on the top of the main window is for (the one with the green arrow after it) or why there is an octagonal red stop sign above it. I have always been shy of testing them out at random in case I was giving out bad user warnings. Could someone explain why these are useful and perhaps add to the help page? Thanks --Fæ (talk) 14:16, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

If you type in an article title in the text box and hit the green arrow (or enter) it will show you the most recent change on the page you specified. As for the red octagonal stop sign, I have no idea; I have not seen one anywhere... Where do you see it, exactly? ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 19:01, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

The sign looks like this and is above the search box on the right of the back/forward arrows. --Fæ (talk) 13:13, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't see a symbol like that anywhere on mine; I have no idea what it would mean... It isn't on the screenshot on WP:GLOO, either. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 18:03, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Okay, the source code says

<img onclick="igloo.iglooControls.action_block();" src="http://alejrb.0sites.net/igloo/images/igloo-block.png" id="igloo-buttons-block-b">

for this button. So I guess it is a speedy block button for those with sysop tools (which I have). This explains why I can see something you can't. I have never used this button, seems a bit scary. I guess it's for those admins that see something dreadful that warrants an immediate block without the normal warnings. Something I would try and avoid doing without a good double check outside of a quick automated tool. --Fæ (talk) 23:23, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm glad that's what it was; I was worried for a minute! I think that could be for something more along the lines of a vandal that is being sent to AIV anyways; at the bottom, when it tells you what kind of warning or report is happening, on seeing that you are sending the vandal to AIV, you could just block them from there. That would be my guess, at least. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 04:28, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

C The conclusion here is that, well, we don't know what this admin-only button does. Can this be added to the help guide. If someone does get around to it, then a list of parameters that can be added to a user's vector.js to change IGLOO's behaviour would be terribly useful, compared to having to review the source code to find out. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 05:03, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

This button, which is indeed only visible for admins, brings up the blocking dialogue box that allows you to block the current user. It won't go mad and instantly block the person you're looking at, if that's what you were concerned about. I don't know what parameters you are referring to - most of the settings are handled internally by igloo, and can be altered by clicking on the cog icon. In the future, if you don't get a response here in a few days, you should poke me on my talk page to come look at it. Ale_Jrb^talk 11:56, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Incidentally, it's the same blocking dialogue that appears automatically after you warn someone with a final warning, if you have this enabled in your settings. Ale_Jrb^talk 11:57, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

is there

something you can do to keep edits by certain users from showing up? this BattyBot thing is getting annoying because all its edits get tagged as probably vandalism. :| Glacialfox (talk) 00:23, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

You can do this with filters. I'll look into altering it on the server, but I'm quite busy atm. Ale_Jrb^talk 13:37, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Igloo connection speed / server off-line?

Pretty slow. How can you make it faster? --J (t) 03:24, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean by this. Ale_Jrb^talk 13:22, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

I've not been able to connect to iglooNet for the last 24 hours. Is there a technical problem affecting everyone? I don't know of any changes to my local config that might cause an issue. --Fæ (talk) 16:09, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

I have the problem that Igloo just don't want to load. After starting it stops with the message: - Warning: igloo could not connect to the remote server. Loading stopped. I don't know what the problem is. --Wiki13 (talk) 12:53, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Yep, same message for me, for more than 2 days now. --Fæ (talk) 17:05, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

This problem is now resolved. Thanks for the reports. Ale_Jrb^talk 23:19, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, being unable to use alternatives (that rely on Windows!) I've really missed your brilliant tool over the last few days. --Fæ (talk) 23:32, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

The problem is back (for me then). I've not been able to connect to iglooNet for like 2 days. This problems keeps coming back after short periods of working. Do you have any ideas why? --Wiki13 (talk) 15:44, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Me too, it seems to be related to Friday and the weekends. Perhaps the gnomes are taking long weekends off and the server runs out of coal to keep the steam pressure up. --Fæ (talk) 16:11, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

I got this message againGreg Heffley 23:07, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

The database server on cluenet is currently down. I have no control over this. Sorry. Ale_Jrb^talk 13:01, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Hosting IGLOO

Hi, I think IGLOO is a great anti-vandalism tool for our community and have made good use of it myself (it remains a rare practical alternative for the widely used AWB). If finding a host is a problem, I would be happy to raise this as something the UK chapter might be able to support. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 10:08, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

I'll be happy to get it running on Wikimedia Labs if you wish, let me know :) - Rich(MTCD)^T|C|E-Mail 11:36, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Unable to use

Unable to run fith the following error

Welcome to igloo! Please be patient while igloo starts up, as this can take some time. - Nforcer is validating your igloo version... - Nforcer OK! - Checking browser for compatibility... - Browser OK! - Checking for usergroups... - Usergroup OK! - Checking read API... - Read API OK! - Checking write API... - Write API OK! - Checking for igloo configuration page... - Configuration page OK! - Checking igloo status... - Warning: igloo is not enabled. It may be disabled, or the configuration page may be corrupt. Loading stopped.

I have tried the latest version of chrome and Firefox on Windows7 (i do have rollback rights) any suggestion what to do regards-- ÐℬigXЯaɣ 01:21, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Igloo is currently disabled as the host has shut down.--Hallows Aktiengesellschaft (talk) 18:59, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Updates?

What is the current situation with hosting? There are offers above that seem to be free hosting. It would be a pity not to get a tool that provides help with vandal busting back in use. --Fæ (talk) 12:54, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Seconded. IMHO, Igloo is currently the single best anti-vandal tool available. Would love to have it back! NTox · talk 23:01, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm looking into it. I've also been rewriting it for a while, so I'll launch that at some point as well. Still not sure about timelines, but sooner rather than later, I like to think. Ale_Jrb^talk 16:00, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

igloo should now be running again. Massive thanks to User:Methecooldude for helping get it set up. Ale_Jrb^talk 20:47, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for getting the tool up and running again. Well done. Cheers --Fæ (talk) 10:24, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Offline

Hi, IGLOO does not appear to have been launching for the last couple of days. Does it need a kick? --Fæ (talk) 08:58, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry Fae, that was my bad, the ClueNet server that runs the database for Igloo was down, should be ok now :) - Rich(MTCD)^T|C|E-Mail 00:29, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I've been unable to connect to the server for the last day. Is it a known problem? Thanks --Fæ (talk) 21:36, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

It is currently working for me. If you're still having problems, let me know. Ale_Jrb^talk 09:14, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, it's working for me today as well. It might have been a problem with my ISP (Carphone/TalkTalk), hopefully it will not be a pattern. Cheers --Fæ (talk) 10:11, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Addition to the profanity filter

After coming across some creative spellings, I think bit*ch[iey]* should be updated to b[iea]+t*ch[iey]*. Even better, you could ask to use Lupin's blacklist instead of rolling your own, for a more universal and adaptable profanity list. ~ neko-chan :3 (talk) 16:42, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

HTTPS Support

Is HTTPS support a planned feature? Thanks C_(u)w_(t)C_(c) 12:03, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

No. Ale_Jrb^talk 20:40, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Is there a technical reason for this limitation? Perhaps something I could help with? C_(u)w_(t)C_(c) 21:01, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

hosting

When Igloo works, it works really well. But the ClueNet server seems to be down more than up, which is really frustrating. Is there a reason why that part of Igloo can't be moved to somewhere more reliable - the Wikimedia Toolserver seems the obvious place? WaggersTALK 11:33, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Just an observation, tool server has been effectively down for some time due to the replag.E W 18:52, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Bot being flagged as vandalism

Every edit by this bot is being flagged as vandalism User:Hmainsbot1, its making it very difficult to spot real vandalism. The bot is delinking years and dates.E W 18:52, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Try making a new filter and put this in:

// This a whitelist for "Hmainsbot1"
if user regexmatch /Hmainsbot1/ig

set score absolute -0.10

Restart Igloo after you've saved the filter and it should work. Regards, Hallows ^{Aktiengesellschaft} (talk) 23:19, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

This issue is now fixed. Thanks for your help! Ale_Jrb^talk 19:14, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

I think that I may have did something wrong with the filter. The loading process now stops at "Loading user settings.....". Is there any way for you to disable it? --Hallows ^{Aktiengesellschaft} (talk) 03:05, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Cannot connect to server

Igloo isn't able to connect to the server again. It gets up to the last step of requesting a token, but then says it cannot connect to the remote server. Any plans to correct this? --I dream of horses @ 21:33, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

It appears the database server is down. This is hosted on ClueNet, and I have no control over it. I'll see if I can get someone to take a look, but I'm pretty busy atm. Ale_Jrb^talk 10:46, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

After looking at the talk page, this apparently happens a lot. Is there another server you can put Igloo on? --I dream of horses @ 21:20, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Same problem with me. Fix plenty quick! Rcsprinter (natter) @ 09:18, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Its still seems to be effectively down. Any update to Cluenet.Blethering Scot 22:51, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Its been down for weeks now, any update? Widefox (talk) 10:00, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Still down. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 17:17, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Still down... When is Ale jrb going to set up the server??? §h₳un 9∞76 01:12, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

@ User:Shaun9876 Go to bottom of this page, please. Sincerely, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/The Welsh Buzzard 10:39, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

An apology to all Igloo users

(This was sent as an e-mail to Ale jrb. I see it fit to post it here as well). --
I need to formally apologise to you and everyone who uses Igloo, the server that was hosting your database expired a while ago due to non-payment (just didn't have the funds to pay for it) and therefore the database has been lost, I stupidly forgot to take backups of the databases before this happened.

I am greatly saddened by these events which is why I have not been active on WP very much recently fearing a backlash from either you or Igloo users. I can prepare another database for you if you wish on a server which is controlled (and paid for) by User:Cobi, although I have root to it.

I again apologise for incident and will take steps to ensure it will not happened again.

Thanks for your understanding

Rich(MTCD)^T|C|E-Mail 13:48, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

• Hey! Please don't beat yourself up about this!

Much worse things are happening all over the world, including here in the UK.

You have done the decent thing and explained why we have this problem ... and that is most appreciated.

All the best! Sincerely, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (GG-J's Talk) 14:06, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for being honest. I appreciate your hard work and you shouldn't feel too bad about this situation. Andrew³²⁷ 15:05, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

I would go as far as saying well done! this is a fantastic tool, if we can help please just say - this is by far the best vandalism tool here, and you need to know that and deserve support from users and wikimedia. Just say what you need, ok? Widefox; talk 21:03, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Sure, why not?   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 19:34, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Not quite sure what the "Sure, why not?" relates too... - Rich(MTCD)^T|C|E-Mail 00:52, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Stuff happens. I wouldn't worry about it. But I think I can speak for everyone that it would be nice to have this tool back. What dates are you planning to get it functional again? NTox · talk 03:00, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

I have e-mailed Ale jrb with a solution but have not had a response yet - Rich(MTCD)^T|C|E-Mail 19:41, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

I thought it was just me... But apparently it wasn't. Oh well, I guess I'll just manually revert for right now. - Dwayne wuz here! ♫ 22:40, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, Rich. I was referring to your "I can prepare another database for you if you wish on a server which is controlled (and paid for) by User:Cobi" above and misindented.   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 11:55, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Ahh okay, like I said I'm waiting for Ale jrb to get back to me surrounding this, I'll try and keep everyone up to date - Rich(MTCD)^T|C|E-Mail 16:21, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi all. Just butting in here -- if it's server you need, I actually happen to have one available for use -- if anyone is able to prepare a database and get it to me, I can host it, at least temporarily. See this thread. Theopolisme 07:44, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

There's a server waiting for Ale jrb, just need him to e-mail me... - Rich(MTCD)^T|C|E-Mail 22:13, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Is anything happening with this? Rcsprinter (yak) @ 21:16, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Any news? Widefox; talk 20:05, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

I'll echo the earlier posters; what's the latest? Andrew³²⁷ 15:05, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

I'll e-mail Ale about this again and let ya know - Rich(MTCD)^T|C|E-Mail 22:20, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

NEWS! - Alex has been kind enough to allow me to take over the Igloo project so I am currently working on getting it back in to working order... it semi there (getting to "Finalizing Load") - Rich(MTCD)^T|C|E-Mail 02:46, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Excellent news.
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 10:04, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

How's it going, Rich? Do you know when will Igloo work again? Or does the "Please note that Igloo is currently non-operational" note need to be removed? I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 01:44, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Slowly is the only answer I can give, it looks like changes to the API and other stuff made Igloo so broken it's mad. Hence why Alex gave up with it. I'm getting to grips with it and will hopefully be back up soon (tm) - Rich(MTCD)^T|C|E-Mail 18:54, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Good to know it's happening at any speed! I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 00:41, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Hurrah! §haun 9∞76 ^༆ 04:10, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

similar tools

what anti-vandalism tools are most similar to igloo that i can use instead until it's back up? Glacialfox (talk)

"most similar" ... Huggle ... here Cheers! –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard|— 19:57, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

thanks! Glacialfox (talk) 20:20, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Updates!

So I finally got round to sitting down and getting stuff done. So here's a few updates.

I have made a few changes to the code so that that ugly XML related error doesn't appear however I'm still having issues getting the diff to show again within Igloo...

If you want to have a look at what it does (or doesn't do) now, please replace the current igloo.js in your Vector javascript to:

importScript('User:Methecooldude/igloo.js');

If anyone has any ideas about what is going on then please message me on my talk page or e-mail me directly

Rich(MTCD)^T|C|E-Mail 12:53, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Update2!

Igloo2 is now officially in alpha test. A big thanks to KP for most of the JavaScript it make it work. Currently only me and KP can access Igloo2 but we can hopefully open up beta testing too you lovely lot. - Rich(MTCD)^T|C|E-Mail 18:45, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Great news, this is a tool I'll be happy to beta test. (I miss igloo!) –Wine Guy~Talk 19:44, 2 August 2013 (UTC)