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2000s in fashion

If you would like to add some photos to the image gallery to improve the article, go over to Commons and see if there are any you think should be included in the article. I agree with you that there needs to be mention of adult fashion trends. Fashion doesn't stop at 18.--jeanne (talk) 09:32, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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GNR

Hey, Albert. We're going to need you back on the GNR page. Apparently more people are against GNR being metal, again. Rockgenre (talk) 01:12, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What's up man?

You hear Libs got busted again with puppets. See[1]. How has it been going in the world of rock and roll? Rockgenre (talk) 03:41, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see you discovered Suck. Another one of those early obscure heavy bands. Elf(one of RJD's old bands) and a little known group called, Iron Claw, also did some of the earliest Black Sabbath covers. Rockgenre (talk) 20:48, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. Noticed Elf did. They also covered Zeppelin, if I'm not mistaken. (Albert Mond (talk) 06:52, 1 December 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Yep, "Black Dog." Even though most of Elf's material sounds more like the Faces and the Rolling Stones, Ronnie actually was trying to get make them a little heavier. Iron Claw were a Scottish group who formed around '69. Very scary proto-doom metal, downer rock sound. Rockgenre (talk) 21:04, 1 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll have to check them out. (Albert Mond (talk) 21:13, 1 December 2009 (UTC))[reply]

What...

Where did you get the hip-hop from? I know for a fact that they are NOT HIP-HOP or EMO. They are ROCK, who told you that they are hip-hop? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MyChemicalRomance1302 (talk • contribs) 12:58, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And I quote: "It doesn't matter! If you like their music then you like their music. If you don't why bother even arguing?" (Albert Mond (talk) 18:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Darn it, I hate it when I do that. Sometimes I get caught up in other peoples busniess and I usually insert my opinion. I know that wikipeda is not a fan website I just want to tell people that My Chemical Romance ISN"T EMO. Thats like saying Metallica is Rap. Hell no they aren't rap if I were to get on youtube for instance and I put that Metallica is rap, wait a day or two and check the responses, they would probably say something like: " dude what are you on?" or "you must be a retard or something!" I know that I'm arguing right now about mainly me and My Chemical Romance, but I just think that people who think they are emo just really need to listen to their music before they judge them on thier appearnce. I first time I saw them I thought they "looked" emo but I listened to their music, I knew they weren't emo. I know that arguing with you or whatever I'm doing -I'm wasting my time- is useless and you probably don't even care.

So I'll get off your discussion page before I say anything else. ☺

Please excuse my poor grammar. MyChemicalRomance1302 (talk) 12:54, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can you help me?

I'm trying to figure out how to put the wiki project stuff on my page but i cant really do that if i dont know how. could you tell me? please. thanks if you do MyChemicalRomance1302 (talk) 12:39, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: emo - cutters?

I found your comment about emos being cutters quite offensive. That's like saying "Not all black people have big lips and eat watermelon but there is a clear image and stereotype around it." The truth is, very few emos cut. RedBarney (talk) 12:56, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Black people are not a subculture. They're a '[racial group]'. Not all goths wear white makeup, I'm sure. However, because it is an integral part of the imagery associated with that subculture, we include notation of it in the [goth subculture] article. Another example is the [hippie] article. There's an entire section on drug use. Some hippies could be offended. It doesn't matter, as Wiki does not simply cater to the interests of these subcultures. Suicide and self-mutilation have for some time been common themes in 'emo,' and have gotten significant media attention. (Albert Mond (talk) 14:54, 12 January 2010 (UTC))[reply]

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your opinion

Hello Albert Mond we need you to opine on the talk page of Led Zeppelin. The sources claim that Led Zeppelin is a hard rock band, but not the parents of the same. The history says the parents of hard rock are Jimi Hendrix, Cream, Jeff Beck. The same sources call Led Zeppelin one of the fathers of heavy metal. There is a POV about it that was imposed without consensus. The first paragraph stable as we knew it was amended by a partial view. Reliable and reputable sources are removed and an editor imposes his POV that Led Zeppelin is the progenitor of hard rock. How Led Zeppelin may be the parent hard rock if it existed before them? LZ is the progenitor of metal, not hard rock. Your opinion would be welcome. Have a nice day! Paulotanner (talk) 03:47, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the allegations made by Paulotanner are absolutely false and bogus. For the true, logical version of what's actually happening, please see the Led Zeppelin talk page. Thanks. --Scieberking (talk) 20:17, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BLACK SABBATH

Don't undo my revision to the Black Sabbath page again, thanks. All you're doing is making the page a complete mess with false information. I'm sick of having to clean up your crap so knock it off. Sabbath are NOT Heavy Metal, as TONI IOMMI HIMSELF STATED THEY ARE HARD/HEAVY ROCK and NOT HEAVY METAL (besides the fact that any moron can hear the difference). If you undo my revision again, I will just revert it back again. Stop thinking you know it all, you do NOT. I was brought up with these bands and know exactly what genres they are. MusicDatabase (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:37, 9 February 2010 (UTC).[reply]

MusicDatabase

Don't worry Albert. The user above has been blocked for a short while. RG (talk) 04:27, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Crunkcore edits

Instead of "most likely", I suggest you directly check, as I did, the disputed edits against the blog entry it's sourced to. Then to the original edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Crunkcore&diff=316564959&oldid=316289777) and the John McDonnell it's attributed to. The criticism is about a specific band and song, not Crunkcore, and it is not immediately clear that the author or blog is notable, much less accurately identified. Until facts match sources and sources meet WP:RS and WP:BLP, the information needs to be stay out of the article. Flowanda | Talk 02:48, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that whether or not the author is the MP of the same name is questionable (though the Guardian article/blog puts "MP" after his name). In his description at Guardian, he refers to himself as "a freelance journalist who writes for Vice, NME, the Sun and Fader." This is what I checked. The title of the article is "Screamo Meets Crunk," which would imply that it is a criticism of the discussed genre (though it focuses primarily on Brokencyde). Reading it again, though, I did notice that we had apparently put a misleading line in the quote there. (Albert Mond (talk) 03:36, 30 March 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Led Zeppelin

So what have you been up to lately Albert? Have you noticed the conflict going on at the Led Zeppelin article right now? A group of editors are removing the metal label without really any reason. Sometime's I wonder why this issue doesn't happen more often with Sabbath related articles. RG (talk) 03:57, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Because Sabbath are unarguably heavy metal, while Zeppelin are arguably metal and arguably not metal, hence their overrepresentation in the heavy metal article. But Albert doesn't see that. Revan ltrl (talk) 19:40, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Input requested

Since you've contributed regularly at Talk:Emo, I wonder if you might offer your opinion at Talk:List of emo artists#30 Seconds To Mars. I think we're close to a consensus that the source cited is insufficient to make the case that the band is an emo act, and that the act ought to be removed from the list, but I'd like to know what you think since you've offered opinions on emo-related talk pages before. --IllaZilla (talk) 20:26, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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It would be great if you leave a comment here.--Trandingbrights (talk) 14:52, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for your input! I'm not basing this on opinion, but on the applicability of the Genocide Convention's definition of Genocide to the actions of the Israeli military and its political leaders ^[1]. In the International Court of Justice, words of incitement uttered by said leaders were among the evidence admitted upon which an interim ruling was made that genocide was plausible. The actions of the Israeli military (including, but not limited to: killing children, bombing hospitals, and laying siege on a captive population) were considered in this case as well. Beyond this, I'm looking at many of the same sources as everyone else; there is an ample amount of sources which refer to the acts being committed as genocide, and many have been linked in that discussion. Should I elaborate, personally, in that discussion? Albert Mond (talk) 19:26, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, looking at what the sources say is best practice. The trick is to make sure our decision isn't influenced by our own decision, coming to conclusions that aren't explicitly stated in the source. Analyzing a definition and determining whether something meets it is original research. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 19:41, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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