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Carol Ann Duffy

Hi Alan. I'd like you to apologize for this: "so your stupid example is not necessary" on Carol Ann Duffy's talkpage. If not, I will report you. Greetings from Spain, to you, British friend in Scotland, in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. --Maru-Spanish (talk) 23:56, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I was reading the talkpage and you seemed to be being particularly rude. Calling other people stupid and describing arguments as "crap" just gets people's backs up, could you tone it down a bit please? Tim Vickers (talk) 16:25, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Always comment on edits, not people, and limit yourself to discussing what the sources say. Your opinions are as irrelevant on this question, as are the opinions of any other editor, since Wikipedia articles only report what has already been published elsewhere in reliable sources. Tim Vickers (talk) 16:12, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

bias

Unfortunately you dont see wikireader41s vandalism and racist remarks as offensive and seem to support indians abusing pakistani articles typical sign of "paki bashing" remember 1980 glasgow sad really pakistanis in this country have always suffered racism but there is no mention in the British Pakistani article i suppose you call all pakistani in scotland pakis aswell oh well i can only hope other scots have both there eyes open to abuse and dont pick on single minority groups 86.158.178.103 (talk) 12:04, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

see what I mean Alan. Now He is calling you a racist as well. he is incorrigible Wikireader41 (talk) 12:44, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

So alan when will you reply to the fact that your taking no notice of wikivandals edits on pakistani pages is it right to punish the abused or punish the abuser in this case wikivandal and adding pov against it does this reveal some anti pakistan bias within yourself as i recall the word "paki" was pioneered by our great britain :-) please just reply and dont beat around the bush 86.158.178.103 (talk) 15:21, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply sorry for the remarks and good luck for tomorrow ill deal with wikivandal as best as i can and thanks for hearing me out 86.158.179.224 (talk) 20:10, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Talk Page Myths

See what I mean by dynamic ip my routers connection is wobbly so it reboots and reconnects and I only noticed recently about the ip changes due to the reboot. Anyways to dispel you of the belief that he/she only adds pov only to talk pages please try and properly look at the diffs [1] this diff shows the vandal changing an already referenced source and adding pro India bias and in the pakistan view section to purposely push a pro India stance. Now second diff he removed this sentence because he was offended by it [2] [3] this diff shows him adding pathetic islamophobic edit trying to portray Pakistan as militant. More trash [4] [5] him stating that jihad is a duty of Muslims in Pakistan so that’s why the whole Kashmir issue formed now [6] this shows his obvious pov view of Pakistan. These diffs are the evidence of a very strong pov [7] now look at him changing his first pov edit into a even more obvious pov edit [8] now second modification to satisfy his hunger for pov [9] and heres sweet little addition by wikivandal [10] now look at him/her attacking Pakistanis over here [11] if this doesnt convince you of his/her pov I don’t know what will!!!! Sorry about before but you don’t seem to bother about his/her pov so thats why I got emotional now will you at least warn or better block them. I see you’re doing science subjects at AS level so am I good luck for June exams! 86.158.179.224 (talk) 17:57, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

One more thing how on earth do you revise for physics, chemistry and biology and contribute to wikipedia at the same time when your exams are so close tell me how you do it please! i suppose you dont really care but i got AAB for my unit 1 chemistry B psychology A and Biology A so not pakistanis are dumb now are they as stated in statistics :-) 86.158.179.224 (talk) 18:03, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

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Wikireader41 (talk) 02:42, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

the vandal indian pov pusher is back please check British Pakistanis 86.158.179.35 (talk) 16:10, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi Alan . that Talkback is from 2 days ago. I believe you have been on my talkpage since then. you can remove this if you wish. You might want to read this report that you reverted.[12]. it clearly states 'Caribbean, Pakistani

and especially Bangladeshi women were much more likely to have been teenage mothers than white women, but Indian women were below the national average.' it would seem to me UK govt is a reliable source. Best wishesWikireader41 (talk) 22:22, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

British Pakistanis

Good spot. I don't know how anyone ever came to that conclusion! Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)^{WIKIPROJECT ATHLETICS NEEDS YOU!} 22:26, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

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Wikireader41 (talk) 02:19, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

British Indians

Hi i wonder if you could add some info about female infantacide amongst British Indians and crime rate info heres the info which some indian admin deleted

Illegal Immigration

here are some very concerning facts about indian illegal immigration and the largest network of illegals. http://blog.taragana.com/n/illegal-indian-fraudsters-behind-uks-largest-visa-scam-54806/

Crime

Indians are rated 8th on crime ahead of Pakistanis at number 10 this should be noted http://www.indopia.in/India-usa-uk-news/latest-news/22839/International/2/20/2 A posotive note is that the indians were 7th last year now there 8th which is good :-)

Female infantacide

A most sad issue is of the killings of indian girls in the womb http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/dec/03girl.htm

1500 girls are reportedly missing from population stats and that 1 in 10 off missing girls are Indian this maybe why they have low birth rates compared to pakistani women dont you agree wikireader41?

Nishkid64 sadly is a admin of Indian heritage living in America like his fellow wikivandal41 who has been trying to hide issues of the Indian community and has supported wikivandal besides giving a warning here and there so if talking to me gets you into trouble by the Indian admins don’t worry just delete my additions and I shall find someone else you have done more than enough cheers 86.156.213.201 (talk) 11:30, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Good work I guess the immigration thing can be integrated into the crime section as a massive network of illegal immigrants is present in Great Britain headed by British Indians thanks again I shall get back to you if I find something worthy to insert :-) 86.156.213.201 (talk) 16:16, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I apologize seems I got confused with Indian Americans Indians now account for the largest % increase in illegal immigration to the USA here is the source: http://www.expressindia.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=72654

This is the source for my other post about illegal Indian immigrants in the UK running the biggest visa scam this maybe should go in the crime section however it’s up to you http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/illegal-indian-fraudsters-behind-uks-largest-visa-scam_100189490.html here is a another http://ibnlive.in.com/news/illegal-indian-immigration-poses-big-problem-for-uk/69176-2.html I am not sure if this illegal Indian immigration issue is worth a mention in a new section or just under the crime section what do you think? Cheers 86.156.213.201 (talk) 16:49, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I reverted this user's edits because he is a banned user. Banned means banned, Nangparbat. Your contributions are not welcome here. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 21:42, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Neutrality? You're going to take the word of an editor who was banned for prolific socking and pushing an extreme pro-Pakistani POV? For the most part, I've only been reverting his edits as per WP:BAN#Enforcement by reverting edits. With whatever can be usable, I've made efforts to incorporate his edits into the text. Please don't make unqualified assumptions; it's a nasty habit that only leads to trouble. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 23:32, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

And if you have questions about the IP's identity, check the numerous sections on my user talk page and the archives which show the IPs this user has been editing from over the last few months. Unfortunately, rangeblocks are out of the question, as I've determined via CheckUser that there would be immense collateral damage. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 23:36, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I came here to inform you that the IP who you were talking to was the banned user Nangparbat. You then proceeded to accuse me of being biased. I came back here to explain further what my policy is regarding this banned user's edits. Please show me where I accused you of editing as a proxy for Nangparbat. My only goal here was to alert you of the IP's identity, because it seems you were not familiar with Nangparbat's MO. What good is our ban policy if we validate his intentions? Assume some good faith, chap. You'd do some good with it. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 23:52, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

And to further clarify, I have no issues with the edits you made. Good job reworking that bit into British Indian and fixing the issue on British Pakistani. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 23:53, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I would just ignore him. If he finds a "friend" among foes, he'll stick to that person like a remora on a swordfish. If it's a legitimate concern and it can be addressed with independent reliable sources, then I suppose it should be handled as appropriate. Best, Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 02:05, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

===Proxying===

seeing your edit here[13] I would like to point out Wikipedia:Banning_policy#Editing_on_behalf_of_banned_users. Have a good day Wikireader41 (talk) 23:16, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I do not appreciate the unfounded attacks on my character. I have never broken the rules, and will continue to edit in adherence to Wikipedia policy. Alan16 ^talk 23:34, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

OK I will take your word for it and give you benefit of doubt. But please take a moment to familiarize yourself with indefinitely banned user Nangparbat. It looks like he thinks of you as his new best friend. Cheers and have a great day. Thank youWikireader41 (talk) 23:44, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

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Nishkid64 and wikivandal pro indian nexus

As Alan can see wikivandal41 is a extreme pro Indian pov pusher being backed by nishkid64 wikivandal41 cannot bear the fact that you edited British Indian page as I warned you before the Indians will come down on you if you edit "there pages" anyways I am sorry for troubling you but I honor your courage and neutrality as wikivandal41s edits have shown he is not capable of editing WP with NPOV but sadly Nishkid64 keeps backing him I wonder why maybe both are Indian? BTW as I said before my ip keeps rotating when I switch my PC off and this is the reason for my ip changing the Indian editors just want there POV to stay e.g. in the British Pakistani article and Kashmir conflict Alan I am sure you have seen the abusive trash Wikivandal spews remember the difs? take care and don’t worry if Nishkid64 doesn’t want you to talk to me ill stop sending you messages cheers for the excellent work you did to balance out Wikipedia :-) 86.156.214.220 (talk) 10:53, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

One more thing I suggest you ignore wikivandal41 when he questions your neutrality he is in no position to edit Wikipedia he’s still licking his wounds from the British Indian page let alone comment on the characters of other legitimate editors 86.156.214.220 (talk) 10:55, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

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