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AfC notification: Draft:High Frontier has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:High Frontier. Thanks! Greenman (talk) 06:46, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: High Frontier (April 11)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Jonathan Deamer was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Jonathan Deamer (talk) 20:01, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, AlMad81! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Jonathan Deamer (talk) 20:01, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have just realized I could have answered directly here, before going via AfC. I would appreciate specifics. At this time, it is like trying to figure out what exactly went wrong in an exam by only looking at the mark, not terribly educational. So please: which reference(s) is/are NOT in-depth, reliable, secondary and independent. I believe I have provided those, and only added direct references when quoting directly the source, to substantiate what is being reported. Thanks. AlMad81 (talk) 15:15, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BoardGameGeek doesn't look like a reliable source. Theroadislong (talk) 18:06, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would direct you to published entries for other board games where BoardGameGeek is listed as external links or references for game information. Wikipedia:WikiProject Board and table games

If BGG is not a reliable source by definition, then it should simply not be used anywhere. AlMad81 (talk) 18:14, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See other stuff exists you might be correct, it should simply not be used anywhere, I don't know. Theroadislong (talk) 18:18, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would certainly not accept a draft where the majority of sources were a forum. Theroadislong (talk) 18:24, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Star Wars: X-Wing Miniatures Game AlMad81 (talk) 15:03, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And by the way, BGG is primarily an online database, forums are just one of its features (albeit the main one). If someone wants to find comprehensive information on a game, there are not many other sources on the net, and none can compete with BGG in terms of content. Board games do not usually appear on televised or written news, or other 'independent' sources outside the board gaming world - which is comparatively small.

I am very curious to know how these other titles ended up here: List of board games. AlMad81 (talk) 15:09, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:High Frontier has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:High Frontier. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 18:29, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: High Frontier (board game) (May 20)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SL93 was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:High Frontier (board game) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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SL93 (talk) 06:23, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: High Frontier (board game) (May 28)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Notcharizard was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:High Frontier (board game) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

-- NotCharizard ^🗨 15:41, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am at my wits' end with regards to sourcing... I would need more specifics on what sources are problematic: example, reason - and what kind of sources are more abundantly needed. Examples from another board game's page would be appreciated, to establish a good comparative within the same wiki project.

Can any reviewer help with the above? Thank you. AlMad81 (talk) 10:14, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:High frontier

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 16:15, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: High Frontier (board game) (October 21)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Memer15151 was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

There are large unsourced sections. BoardGameGeek is still used, despite previous comments warning not to use the crowd-sourced resource. Other sources are primary and don't help establish notability. Medium is not a reliable source if not from experts, and in the article, the author states he is not a subject-matter expert; "When I started this project, I had never used or studied graph theory beyond being aware of the basic idea."

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:High Frontier (board game) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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UserMemer (chat) Tribs 16:14, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]