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@Diannaa: my edit summaries already note the fact that the content has been copied/moved. Al-Andalusi (talk) 00:17, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

That's not true on the edits the bot picked up, which were this one and this one. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:30, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

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1RR vio

Note you violated 1RR with this. I urge you to self revert.Icewhiz (talk) 16:38, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

@Icewhiz: My last change on the page was on Dec 10. Can you explain why is it 1RR? Al-Andalusi (talk) 17:23, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

My understanding of 1RR is that it applies on a per-article basis. Correct me if I'm wrong. Al-Andalusi (talk)

per If an edit is reverted by another editor, its original author may not restore it within 24 hours of the revert..Icewhiz (talk) 18:41, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks. Al-Andalusi (talk) 14:45, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

You again broke it.Please rv yourself [1] --Shrike (talk) 08:18, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Indeed, I strongly suggest you self-revert this.Icewhiz (talk) 08:22, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

1RR vio

Note - original authorship and revert - is a violation of the original author provision in ARBPIA's 1RR (and this paragraph is clearly ARBPIA). BLPCRIME is not a valid exemption to 1RR here as per BLPCRIME: This section (WP:BLPCRIME) applies to individuals who are not public figures; that is, individuals not covered by WP:WELLKNOWN. - and Bishara is clearly a public figure and well known.Icewhiz (talk) 07:49, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Azmi is a "relatively unknown" person. You'd have to look for him to find him, as opposed to say Mandela. In any case, your revert gives undue weight to what amounts to mere speculations and accusations. Somehow, with all the serious accusations on his head, Azmi managed to slip out of the country after he promised the authorities that he'd come back for interview! So this is a show put on by the Zionist regime and they're milking it to pass discriminating bills against Palestinian citizens...it does NOT belong to the lede. Azmi is known for a lot more things that what happens or is said in that shithole Knesset. A user recently made additions to wiki page to illustrate that.

Looking at the history, it seems you violated 1RR on that same page. Al-Andalusi (talk) 17:10, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

He was a member of Knesset and party leader - definition of a public figure.

How did I violate 1RR? I performed exactly 1 revert (in 2 consecutive edits, with no intervening edits by other users, which counts as 1 per WP:3RR A series of consecutive saved revert edits by one user with no intervening edits by another user counts as one revert.). Earlier I added tags, which is not a revert. If you tell me what I should self-revert, I will.

I respectfully request you self-revert.Icewhiz (talk) 17:15, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

You made 2 sequential reverts to the page, but the reverts undid different content added by 2 different users and thus are completely independent from one another. Al-Andalusi (talk) 15:55, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

That's a single revert - per the relevant policy (WP:3RR) I quoted above.Icewhiz (talk) 15:59, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

It appears that 1RR supersedes 3RR policy. Show me an example of your behavior being allowed in am Israeli-Arab conflict page. Al-Andalusi (talk) 16:02, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Per WP:1RR: The one-revert rule is described like the three-revert rule above, except with the words "more than one revert" replacing "more than three reverts" - so the cited clause from 3RR is not superseded, the sole difference is three being replaced with one.Icewhiz (talk) 16:29, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

1RR vio

this revert on Irgun is a violation of the original author clause in ARBPIA 1RR. I urge you to self revert.Icewhiz (talk) 21:53, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Done. Al-Andalusi (talk) 22:04, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Azmi Bishara's article

Dear Al-Andalusi, hope this finds u well. Can u plz help me in reviewing my edits for Azmi Bishara article? I have done the edits at my sandbox as per Number 57 advice. If my edits are OK, plz move it to the article if u accept helping me in that. Thanks in advance.--Zeidan87 (talk) 21:24, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

1RR

You violated 1RR with [2] and [3] - besides removing well sourced material (which is beyond guilt by association - these organizations are in the same building and some of the senior staff has positions in both). Kindly self-revert.Icewhiz (talk) 08:11, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Nope, I did not. Al-Andalusi (talk) 18:34, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Al-Andalusi, this does appear to be a 1RR violation on an article covered by WP:ARBPIA. You are still under notice for ARBPIA. It is in your interest to undo your last change. EdJohnston (talk) 19:20, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

@EdJohnston:, I'm seeing 2 reverts on different articles. How is that 1RR? Al-Andalusi (talk) 19:23, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

To clarify, you violated 1rr in both articles with those diffs. You also violated 1rr in another article, with this diff [4] - however I did not ask you to self revert as others had edited since.Icewhiz (talk) 19:28, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Al-Andalusi, you removed Category:Muslim Brotherhood from Middle East Monitor twice on 25 February. The first time you were reverting an addition by User:Zakawer from 30 January, so both edits were reverts. EdJohnston (talk) 19:36, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

@EdJohnston:, I respectfully disagree. I understand that you came here from a WP:Canvassing call, but since you made the effort to go back in time and review the edits, then I was hoping you'd see that the context of my changes (on both articles) had nothing to do with the Arab-Israeli conflict, but with the Qatar–Saudi Arabia proxy conflict. The organization does not profess its Brotherhood affiliation, and it would be a violation to label it among the "Muslim Brotherhood" because of a accusation from a critic. Yes I removed Category:Muslim Brotherhood twice but I will say that only the second removal counts as a proper "revert", although of a user with less than 500 edits (ARBPIA 30/500), and what you refer to as the first revert...well technically any change to an article can be classified as a revert if you look deep into the article's history with the intention to stir problems from nothing, which Icewhiz is doing here. What should be made clear here, is that Icewhiz arrived at those two pages and brought "Israel" and ARBIA into this only because he is stalking my contributions page, and found his questionable additions reverted. Al-Andalusi (talk) 20:10, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Without regard to the merits (which EdJohnson has under control), I will just say that it is NOT canvassing when someone asks an admin to get involved. We volunteered and were specifically chosen by the community to do this, on behalf of the community, so framing it this way is flatly wrong. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 20:19, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

I had watchlisted both pages after discussing (the inappropriate in my eyes) use of MEMO as a source with you on a separate article. Both organizations cover the Israeli/Palestinian conflict intensely, and the edit of mine that was reverted was clearly ARBPIA in that it involved Hamas. Some of the previously reverted content by you also involved Hamas and not just the wider brotherhood - and some of it was recently restored by NeilN who is extended comfirmed. Also - I did not canvass anyone to here.Icewhiz (talk) 20:37, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

I was referring to the earlier edits mentioned by EdJohnson when I said they are not ARBPIA-related. So I believe that my revert of your additions would constitute the first ARBIA-related revert. You mention that the previously reverted content by me also involved Hamas, which is not quite right (unless you're referring to this [5], which on a normal day, would not bee seen as a "revert" but a normal edit). Al-Andalusi (talk) 20:51, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Which is a clear revert of [6] - a 30 Jan 2018 edit by an extended confirmed user on ARBPIA.Icewhiz (talk) 20:57, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Like I said, any change to an article can be framed as a "revert" if one wants to push a certain narrative. Here, you are referencing an edit made a month ago, which tells me how ridiculous this revert claim is. I can go back to some of your edits and demonstrate the same, and claim you've been reverting and violating 1RR on articles. As an editor, it's not expected of me to review an article's history and check each and every edit made to an article, before I can make a change to it, and hope that I'm not "reverting" and violating 1RR. Al-Andalusi (talk) 21:46, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

I posted a friendly request here assuming this may have been an honest mistake, despite user:Zakawer's edit being the last major edit prior to your own edits (which incidentally added "Category:Media coverage of the Arab–Israeli conflict" apropo ARBPIA relevance of the article). I understand, however, that you see things differently.Icewhiz (talk) 22:03, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

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Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors. Thank you. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 20:31, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

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1RR in ARBPIA

Hi. Here are some suggestions about the 1RR remedy in ARBPIA.

The simplest way to not run afoul of the remedy is to follow both these two practices:

• Only edit the page once in 24 hours (a consecutive series of edits counts as one edit).
• If you're reverting any edit, make sure that the edit is at least 24 hours old.

In addition, if someone still asks you to self-revert due to 1RR, just do it whether you think it's right or wrong (you can still discuss with them on your talkpage). This has been my practice for many years, and I have had zero problems.

Use the extra time to discuss on the article talk page (this is the point of the remedy). Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 23:26, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

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Islamophobia

Hi. I have reverted an edit of yours on this article, as you restored material against a consensus on the talk page, which included the opinion of the editor who originally added the material.

I addition, I would like to remind you about WP:BRD. When your Bold edit has been Reverted by another editor, the recommended next step, if you continue to think the edit is necessary, is to Discuss the dispute on the article talk page with other editors, but not to re-revert it, which is the first step to edit warring, a disruptive activity which is not allowed. Discussion on the talk page is the only way we have of reaching consensus, which is central to resolving editing disputes in an amicable and collegial manner, which is why communicating your concerns to your fellow editors is essential. While the discussion is going on, the article generally should remain in the status quo ante until the consensus as to what to do is reached. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:55, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

I remember you. You are that Islamophobia-denialist who thinks he owns the article and set himself up as a mufti to speak on behalf of Muslims, getting to decide what is Islamophobic and what is not. Wait till I compile my sources and come back to it. Al-Andalusi (talk) 19:17, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

1RR

You broke the "original author provision in ARBPIA 1RR with this edit, in relation to these reverts,[7][8] of content you originally authored on 22 Oct. Kindly self revert.Icewhiz (talk) 19:28, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Efraim Karsh

Regarding your edits to the Efraim Karsh article. I find them suspiciously POV: you remove many things that review him and his work positively, add many things that are quite the opposite, and seem to be using the word "Zionist" in the most peculiar places, making it sound almost like a pejorative. Please consider your next edits to this article carefully. Debresser (talk) 23:14, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

You're overreacting. Al-Andalusi (talk) 23:25, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

I just gave you a kind reminder. Asked you to consider your edits carefully. I didn't slam you with warning templates, or threaten to report you. How am I overreacting? Debresser (talk) 23:28, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

I can see that you became angry all of a sudden. Too bad that I probably don't care about what you just wrote here. Al-Andalusi (talk) 23:42, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

You can see (?) that I got angry? Are you a prophet? Well, I didn't, sorry.

It is actually too bad that you don't care. You should. Debresser (talk) 01:51, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

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@Diannaa:, looks like a bug in your bot. Please review the changesets in question. Al-Andalusi (talk) 22:44, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

The removed content is here Contending Visions of the Middle East: The History and Politics of Orientalism By Zachary Lockman, page 255. The overlapping content is also visible at this webpage. The material I removed was "Although Pipes claimed that he was not against Muslims or Islam but was only opposed to Islamism, Lockman observes that the tone and often the content of much of what he had to say" which was wedged between two quotations. I replaced this with " He stated that Pipes's remarks... ". — Diannaa 🍁 (talk)

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Basic Law: Israel as the Nation-State of the Jewish People

Copying the text of an article word-for-word without an in-line attribution, as you did from Al-Jazeera with these edits[9][10] constitutes WP:PLAGIARISM. Just to show a comparison of what you wrote versus what appeared in the source you referenced:

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• Critics compare it to apartheid, saying it promotes ethnic superiority and further marginalises the 1.8 million Palestinians with Israeli citizenship and other smaller minorities.

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• Critics compare it to apartheid, saying it promotes ethnic superiority and further marginalises some 1.8 million Palestinians with Israeli citizenship and other smaller minorities.

If you think this is a worthy addition, you may want to start by WP:PARAPHRASING the content rather than simply copy-pasting it into the article.

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There is an in-line attribution to Al-Jazeera in my edit. Are you blind? Al-Andalusi (talk) 01:21, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

No, there wasn't. Do you know what an in-text attribution is? Even so, you must know that we're not permitted to simply copy-paste content from third-party sources. Wikieditor19920 (talk) 02:32, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

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Category:Islamophobic publications has been nominated for deletion

Category:Islamophobic publications has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mvbaron (talk) 11:35, 24 October 2021 (UTC)