User talk:Adamdaley/Archives/2018/November

Requests for assessment

Hi Adam, The MILHIST request for assessment page is meant for people who quote, "have made significant improvements to an article against one or more of B-class criteria and would like an outside opinion on a new rating for it". You are nominating a lot of articles you have made no improvement to. It bogs down the page from helping editors who want critiquing of their work. You've had no problem in the past half completing the B-Class checklists. --Molestash (talk) 11:13, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Yeah well, my grammar isn't exactly perfect that is what I am asking. Adamdaley (talk) 22:11, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Duplicated WPs - cause Assessment bot issue

Greetings Adamdaley - The recent edit for Talk:Terrence J. O'Shaughnessy left that talk page with duplicate WPs for biography & military history. This causes the daily assessment bot (WP 1.0 bot) to run repeat processing. It ran Military history 4 times last night so there are still 3 more articles "somewhere" needing duplicate WP removals. Eventually the bot runs out of resources & dies. It ran WP Biography (Military) two sets of 5 times.

I deleted the duplicate WPs for this article. Going forward if you find any Talk pages with duplicate WPs, please delete these duplicates. Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 13:53, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• @JoeHebda: – What is the exact problem? Duplicated WikiProject as what, WP:Biography or WP:MILHIST? Adamdaley (talk) 01:17, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

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The daily WP 1.0 bot is running & just made it past WP Military history (20:18, 26 October 2018) without repeat running. At noontime today I manually ran that WP & WP Biography (military) using enwp10 tool.

The bot bug that causes multiple processing runs is when

• any WP appears duplicated on talk page.
• and has different class= values.

Hope this clarifies the issue.

Bot just went past Biography (military) without repeating (20:28, 26 October 2018).

JoeHebda (talk) 01:32, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

• JoeHebda – If I added another WP:MILHIST or WP:Biography, I immediately, go back and change it. Adamdaley (talk) 01:35, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

• @JoeHebda: – Why can't I update WP:MILHIST and WikiProject Military/Biographies using the bot? I rely on this feature to see articles updated. Adamdaley (talk) 04:27, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

WP1.0bot is blocked. It recently went "off the rails" malfunctioning. Details at Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Index#Bot blocked. JoeHebda (talk) 04:33, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

• Any idea when it could be fixed (the bot and its issues) and become unblocked? Adamdaley (talk) 04:36, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Article cleanup listings

The WP1.0bot was first created over 10yrs back & is not realy "fixable". A revamped bot is in-the-works but it may be a while. Yes, I miss those "quality logs" to check WP article updates. This link to weekly WikiProject Cleanup Listings may be an alternative while WP 1.0 bot is blocked. I see "Military history" but not "Biography". On a WP line, click on "by cat" to see details.JoeHebda (talk) 04:56, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

• Yes, I was just looking at that. Maybe the programmers can make the new and improved version of the WP 1.0 Bot, because it's very useful to have. Adamdaley (talk) 05:02, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

• @JoeHebda: – Could you let me know when the WP1.0 Bot is working again? Adamdaley (talk) 22:02, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

• @Adamdaley: - It may be a while. If you would like to Watchlist here for WP1.0bot info, and developments for replacement bot. This is just my uninformed opinion, but I suspect that a rogue script or bot corrupted timestamps for WP 1.0 bot causing the malfunction. From all my (44) yrs of computer experience, bad data will always cause problems such as this. I have no proof because I joined Wikipedia in 2014 & have little knowledge of how WP files/databases work & are glued together. It all looks very complicated. Sorry for length of my response. Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 02:26, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

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Talk:Juma Namangani

Hi Adam,

In looking over what actually changed in this edit, the only thing I can see is the South Asian task force parameter was dropped from the MILHIST project banner. Given Namangani was active in Afghanistan, I would think the article falls under the task force's scope, no? If not, I'll defer to you given that I'm not a project member.

Also, for future reference, I wanted to flag for you that {{talkheader}} and {{WikiProjectBannerShell}} are merely redirects to the actual templates, {{Talk header}} and {{WikiProject banner shell}}.

Thanks, -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 04:25, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Afghanistan, is in the Middle East. South Asian is more Pakistan/India etc. Adamdaley (talk) 05:22, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

I, too, tend to think of "South Asia" as Pakistan/India and areas immediately south and west, but it's my understanding Afghanistan is technically part of South Asia, not the Middle East—see the maps at the respective articles. -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 05:34, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

You could go to WP:MILHIST and start a discussion about all of this. Because I've had a funny feeling that my "maps" would be brought into question. Adamdaley (talk) 05:37, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

I started to write a post at WT:MILHIST but just came across Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/South Asian military history task force#Scope, which includes Afghanistan. So, I've re-added the parameter to Namangani's article, but I'll leave the figuring out of boundaries to the project's members. :) Cheers, -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 18:58, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

.17 Remington

Can you please read articles before tagging them for WPMILHIST? The .17 Remington is a varmint hunting round and absolutely nowhere mentions MILHIST applications. --Molestash (talk) 11:51, 29 November 2018 (UTC)