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Isabella Gonzaga -Novellara

Hello. I saw your review on the portrait. Well I can assure you that the image and 'just in Isabella Gonzaga. His name appears in Portraiture Gonzaga of Mantua :) --82.52.36.94 (talk) 22:15, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

I did not doubt it was a portrait of Isabella Gonzaga, but are you sure it is the right Isabella Gonzaga? Royalty/nobility often used the same names for generations, and I have sen numerous portraits from commons where there have been confusions because of this, and two people have been confused with each other because they had the same name. My thought was, that it was surely Isabella Gonzaga, but not this particular Isabella Gonzaga. You see, the Isabella Gonzaga of the article lived in 1576-1630, if I remember correctly, and the Isabella Gonzaga of the portrait appears, young, in the fashion of the late 17th-century. The fashion of 1600-1630 differed very greatly from the fashion of the 1670-1690, which is worn by the Isabella Gonzaga of the portrait. What could be the explanation of this? Was the portrait painted in the 1680s, even though it depicted a woman who died in 1630? That could, of course, very well be the case. Or is it truly of a different Isabella Gonzaga, who was indeed young in the 1680s? Do you have an answer to the question of fashion? Why is a person who died as old in the 1630s painted young in the fashion of the 1680s? It is both easy and understandable to make a mistake, the same mistake are constantly made here, so your image will be of good use in any case! --Aciram (talk) 00:01, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

I tell her that it could be that the princess died in 1630 and that the portrait was executed by an artist of the second half of the 600, still matter to me the name of the character, I really do not pay much attention to these details .. the only sometimes that is the case I do when I see a portrait of Louis XIV dressed and described as an Apollo or a Caesar --82.52.36.196 (talk) 09:06, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I understand you, but I'm afraid it is necessary to pay attention to it here; the portrait must be placed in the right article, and if it is not the Isabella Gonzaga that live in 1576-1630), it cannot be placed in her article. It is a very good portrait, and it can be of good use here no matter who it depicts, but it must be made clear exactly which Isabella Gonzaga it is, before it can be placed in an article about a specific person. It could of course be of the Isabella Gonzaga of the article, because people was occasionally painted many years after their death, but until we no for sure, it should not be used for that article. You have don nothing wrong, though! It is hard to now, when you are not well informed about fashion history. If you do not know the answer, it is probably best to leave it to some one with the right knowledge of expertise and leave it at that for now.--Aciram (talk) 11:45, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

I'll try to inform me well thanks to you :) --82.52.36.196 (talk) 12:50, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Your welcome! --Aciram (talk) 12:54, 19 April 2015 (UTC)