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Tech News: 2018-37

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• When you added or edited a template with the visual editor the input boxes were very big. This has been fixed. The input boxes will now be smaller until you click on them. Then they will change size to fit the text. [1]

Problems

• Some diffs showed lines in the wrong order. This was fixed last week. [2]
• Marking a cross-wiki notification as read didn't work every time. The other wiki was not updated. This has now been fixed. [3]
• <maplink> did not work for a few days. This was because of a bug. This has now been fixed. [4]
• {{subst:REVISIONUSER}} is used by some templates. For a period edits saved with {{subst:REVISIONUSER}} would save the previous user's name and not your username. This is now fixed. Edits made before the bug was fixed will still be wrong and need to be corrected. [5]
• When you move a page the title still shows the old page name. The developers are working on fixing this. [6]

Changes later this week

• Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour. You can read more about this.
• Because of the data centre test there will be no new version of MediaWiki this week. Changes for this week will come next week instead.

Meetings

• You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 11 Septmber at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 12 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The developers work on making the wikis work better on mobile phones. There is a list of common problems when making content easier to read in the mobile view. You can add things to the page and ask others to help.

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22:35, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)

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BAP Page Comments

Hello Abel!

I would like to thank you for your feedback on my submitted page: Stop abusing the sandbox by removing the header. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus

I just wanted to ask if this is something that can be detected when I edit the page? And what can I do from my end to prevent this from happening again(should there be any repercussion that may affect approvals for my future submissions)?

Sorry this may be a stupid question, I'm still very new here and still trying to get a feel of how things are being setup. This must be something that I have unintentionally done.

Looking forward on your thoughts!

BAPCathyM (talk) 03:12, 13 September 2018 (UTC) BAPCathyM

@BAPCathyM: Hello. User:Lowercase sigmabot II is a bot responsible for clearing the sandbox and reinserting the header if it is removed. You didn't break any rules here, just please do not remove the header of the sandbox. There is a note in the editing area stating that "Please leave this part alone", and you are intended to follow it. —AE (talk • contributions) 09:36, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Excuse me, Can I recreating Scorpion attack page ?

I was edited page Scorpion attack, and im thinking it's ok. can I recreating it. Đông Minh (talk) 10:12, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

No. Not because of you thinking that it's okay makes it okay. Please submit it to AfC instead. —AE (talk • contributions) 09:45, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Seeking adoption

I will be watching you :) —AE (talk • contributions)

Please adopt me! Harsh Rathod Poke me! 05:32, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

@Harshrathod50: Sure! I will add you to my list of adoptees in Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user/Adoptee's Area/Adopters. Since you are not very new, I will prioritize newer editors (my adoptees). That being said, I will still help you as much as possible. Please also note that I am currently busy in real life, so your queries may not be answered immediately. Thank you for your consideration and happy editing —AE (talk • contributions) 09:42, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks you very much and I hope to gain from you in the course of time. Harsh Rathod Poke me! 12:06, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

You'll be good. I promise —AE (talk • contributions) 13:17, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Some Water For You

I prefer boiled tap water

—AE (talk • contributions)

So expensive!!!

	Water
	DRINK MORE WATER!!! Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:23, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

@Thegooduser: Hi there. Dasani bottled water is seldom found in Hong Kong. The most common brands are Watsons Water and Bonaqua. However, I almost never buy bottled water since they are way too expensive. Boiled tap water is much cheaper. Thanks for your Dasani anyway. —AE (talk • contributions) 06:40, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

How much is bottled water? Here in Canada it is $1.25 CAN at the dollar store.Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 21:05, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

@Thegooduser: In HK, 500mL of bottled water costs HK$5-10 (CAN $0.85-1.7) —AE (talk • contributions) 23:35, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

You gotta come to Canada and buy some Dasani bottled water and bring it back to HK to stock up on it. LolThegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:08, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

@Thegooduser: No. I can buy it in Singapore! —AE (talk • contributions) 14:09, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

LOL Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 23:54, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Apology message

To Abelmoschus Esculentus

Thank you for giving me some advice about leaving my Wikipedia username. I didn't know how to do so, as I have quite a few struggles before.

I am autistic, but my autism is mild.

Thanks for the advice DanielMasonThomas79 (talk) 16:24, 15 September 2018 (UTC) DanielMasonThomas79

@DanielMasonThomas79: No. Your username is completely fine. I was notifying you about not signing posts. You must add four tildes (~~~~) after your message (aka signing posts) in talk pages or discussion pages. —AE (talk • contributions) 09:39, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 38, 2018)

Musicians at a pub session, an event that involves playing music and/or singing in the relaxed social setting of a local pub, in which the music-making is intermingled with the consumption of ale, stout, and beer and conversation. Hello, Abelmoschus Esculentus. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Pub session Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: People's Republic of Angola • Jahangir Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:17, 17 September 2018 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI •

AfC Probation

Check this | out, I'm on probation for the AfC. Can you give me some helpful tips so that when they assess me in two months I can keep my spot? Thanks. Yanjipy (talk) 00:21, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Best way is to keep your AFC reviews (especially accepts) perfect and good. Bad reviews will usually lead to the removal of your username from the list. —AE (talk • contributions) 00:33, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Email

Do you keep your emails private? If so i need to email you.Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:22, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Please feel free to email me. —AE (talk • contributions) 02:23, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Can I email you now?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:29, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Yes. I've answered you already that you are welcome to email me at anytime. I created an email account only for Wikipedia. —AE (talk • contributions) 02:31, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

You've got mail

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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Signatures

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Wikidata weekly summary #330

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • Open requests for adminship: Dan Koehl, Joalpe

• Events
  • Continuing through September and early October: Andy Mabbett is touring Australia for a series of open-science and GLAM Wiki-focused talks, workshops, and meetups.
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• Press, articles, blog posts
  • An increasing number of reports from This Month in GLAM Wikidata related stories. To follow, subscribe here. Though most country reports include Wikidata activities, highlights from this month include:
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    • A report discussing increasing interest for mapping the Portugeuse National Library data with Wikidata
    • More information on the recently funded WMSE Projects
    • And, of course, the Wikidata Report highlights
  • Crotos: a project on visual artworks powered by Wikidata and Wikimedia Commons
  • Wikidata Query Service recipe: qualifiers and the Greek alphabet

• Other Noteworthy Stuff
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Photos

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Tech News: 2018-38

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The Wikimedia Commons mobile app has a new version. Images uploaded using Nearby are now automatically added to the associated Wikidata item. You can browse other images on Commons. You can see your achievements and your upload statistics. It has also fixed some bugs. [7]
• MediaWiki web requests now have a time limit of 60 seconds for GET requests and 200 seconds for POST requests. [8]

Problems

• You could not see the menu on the notifications page on the mobile version. This has now been fixed. [9]

Changes later this week

• Special:AncientPages can hide disambiguation pages. [10]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 September. It will be on all wikis from 20 September (calendar).

Meetings

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21:57, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Typeform

Hello, mate.

Have you ever read documentation of Infobox company? It is stated that name parameter is the full official name. In Typeform's website, the legal statement states that the legal name of the company is Typeform S.L. not plain Typeform. Do you understand? So, what part of my edit is not constructive? 114.124.231.86 (talk) 15:10, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

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JC7V-constructive zone 16:41, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Category request: Category:Naturalised citizens of Iraq

Hello, I wondered why you declined 59.149.124.29's request to create this category? Your rationale, "Could you show that there are a number of pages that belong to this category?", doesn't make sense. The proposal had four articles that fit, and out of 105 national subcategories of Category:Naturalized citizens by nation, 36 have four or fewer articles.

• 1 article: Algeria‎, Benin‎, Botswana‎, Burkina Faso‎, Cuba‎, Kingdom of Great Britain‎, Libya‎, Lithuania‎, Mozambique‎, Namibia‎, Saudi Arabia‎, Slovenia‎, Solomon Islands‎, Sri Lanka‎, Swaziland‎, Thailand‎, Uganda‎
• 2 articles: Cambodia‎, Cyprus‎, Ghana‎, Guinea‎, Luxembourg‎
• 3 articles: Costa Rica‎, Georgia (country)‎, Honduras‎, India‎, Jordan‎, Nicaragua‎, Nigeria‎, State of Palestine‎, Peru‎, Saint Kitts and Nevis‎, Vanuatu‎
• 4 articles: Iceland‎, Iran‎, Morocco‎

Since 1/3 of the currently existing categories have four or fewer articles, why treat Iraq differently? 208.95.51.53 (talk) 12:18, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

 Done Category created. Seems I am not familiar with the decline templates. Thanks for pointing it out anyway. —AE (talk • contributions) 12:38, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)

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No subject

Thank you for the clarification. I was appalled by the moderator's aggressive and patronizing attitude which was in bad taste. My apologies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hitontime (talk • contribs) 19:36, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

FYI, Oshwah is one of the most helpful and cheerful administrators in Wikipedia. You seemed to have made a meal out of his advice, which was neither aggressive nor patronizing. —AE (talk • contributions) 13:43, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Assessment

Hi AE, could you please assess my progress on my AfC edits? Thanks. Yanjipy (talk) 02:21, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello Yanjipy. Sorry for the late reply since I'm busy in real life. I've checked all your reviews here. Your comments are okay (except the following, stay tuned), sometimes you may fix the problems yourself. (?)

Time to be picky. For Draft:Jacob Riley Wasserman, you said the article lacks a lede, but if you look closely you can see the the first section is actually a legit lede; I disagree with "the lead section should be shorter" in Draft:Anna Hakobyan. Compared with Crescent Falls, it is already very short, and you are still asking for shorter; Why not decline Draft:Cafe Psychologique with reason npov? If the submission is an essay, advertisement or biased original research, you don't need to leave it to other reviewers to examine its notability; In Draft:Catherine Losing, you questioned the Google Drive source. If the Google Drive link is valid and the document is a reliable source, it can be a source; Why not mention breaking down the lede in Draft:Dato' Sri Melvin Loh Kok Man? For Draft:Michael DiDonna, are you sure that it has no footnotes? It lacks inline citations instead. These two are different. You may decline it with reason ilc (type it in the decline option box if you don't want to scroll down and search); I don't see any subsections in Draft:Riverside Golf Club, can you further elaborate it?

You may rearrange the sections by yourself instead of posting WP:ORDER comment in every single submission. Good luck reviewing, my friend :) —AE (talk • contributions) 13:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks AE, there's no need to be sorry, I also have to go to school on the weekdays. Anyways thank you very much for the response, it's very informative and I'll for sure use it as a reference on the AfC. Also, thanks for clarifying to me abut the difference between inline citations and footnotes. I'm afraid to say that I've gotten these two types of references confused and that I think I tagged plenty of articles that did have footnotes but no inline citations with (no footnotes) :( . Also, thanks for clarifying to me that I could edit Drafts myself. I'll try to practice more and impress the admins on AfC. Thanks for all your help AE. —Yanjipy (talk) 19:11, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Cheers. I really do appreciate your help. Thank you for being there when I requested for it. -- Yanjipy (talk) 01:00, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

@Yanjipy: Always happy to help! —AE (talk • contributions) 04:26, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

State of Palestine

</rant on>

Want to know a secret? Palestine has never, in the history of time, existed as a country or a people. It's a scam. Before Jimmy Carter came along, the PLO was nothing more than a terrorist organization. Little has changed.

If Israel had any sense they would have told Jimmy Carter to shove it up his arse, and shoved the 'Palestinians' across the border and out of their country decades ago.

Kindly slap anyone who ever refers to 'Palestine' as either. Thank you for your assistance.

</rant off>

At least when they gave Jimmy Carter the Nobel peace prize, I learned that that organization was corrupt. No surprise when they gave Obama one.

https://themuslimissue.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/jewish-loss-of-land.jpg

"Personally, half my family is Egyptian. We are all like that. More than 30 families in the Gaza Strip are called Al-Masri [“Egyptian”]. Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis." -Fathi Hammad, minister of the interior and national security for Hamas https://www.wnd.com/2012/09/hamas-palestinians-actually-are-egyptians-saudis/

---PALESTINE HAS NEVER BEEN A COUNTRY OR A NATION OF PEOPLE--- Israel Palestinian Conflict: The Truth About the West Bank https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGYxLWUKwWo

Rebuttal The Real Truth about Palestine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jjOOpEvMHA

The ACTUAL Truth About Palestine (Slower Titles) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO1buOxcbrI

Israel Palestinian Conflict: The Truth About the Peace Process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAuBc_cbXo0

The Truth About the Refugees: Israel Palestinian Conflict https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_3A6_qSBBQ

The Truth about the United Nations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIRJO9TaaOI

The Truth About the Balance of Power in the Middle East https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V567zr2aOyc

The evidence is clear. The entire group promoting 'the State of Palestine' is nothing more than usurpers bent on chiselling away at the sovereignty of Israel. Palestine is a REGION, like the Redwood forest, or the Mississippi valley. I DEMAND that all pages on Wikipedia listed as 'State of Palestine' be either deleted and banned, or renamed to 'region of Palestine'.

I already attempted the changes on one page, and listed out my reasons. You erroneously reversed those changes. Now, you need to effect the changes correctly as it is your responsibility. I will be watching.

Crogonint (talk) 05:23, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

	Teahouse Barnstar
	This is for your valuable contributions related to teahouse. PATH SLOPU (Talk) 13:48, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. —AE (talk • contributions) 14:17, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 39, 2018)

St. Louis-style pizza is an example of St. Louis cuisine. Hello, Abelmoschus Esculentus. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: St. Louis cuisine Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Pub session • People's Republic of Angola Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 24 September 2018 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI •

Please comment on Template talk:Death year and age

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Question about your edit

[11] – can you share your thought process for reverting this unblock request as a non-administrator without edit summary? Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 23:27, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

I've reinstated the block appeal (and declined it). The appeal itself was not vandalism and should not have been reverted before an administrator reviewed it. While I don't necessarily agree with the strongest voices here, the community has expressed significant concern with non-administrators reviewing unblock requests – see here – even when the requests were "blatant trolling requests created by LTA's, VOA's, socks", which I didn't see that the request in question was. I sincerely appreciate that you're trying to help with the workload here, but administrators still do have to review when non-administrators remove unblock requests for thoroughness. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 06:19, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

@L235: Thanks for your advice. —AE (talk • contributions) 13:03, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-39

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• The preferences form will change to use the standard look. If you see any problems please report them on Phabricator. [12]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 September. It will be on all wikis from 27 September (calendar).

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15:22, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Relist

You relisted Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vacationing_in_Palm_Springs only 6 days and 9 hours after the discussion was opened - please wait the full 7 days Galobtter (pingó mió) 05:47, 25 September 2018 (UTC)