User talk:Aakatzeff

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Hello, Aakatzeff, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Last Minute Travel, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained.

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Questions or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Largoplazo (talk) 19:57, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Last Minute Travel

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A tag has been placed on Last Minute Travel, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Largoplazo (talk) 19:57, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Editing with a conflict of interest

Hello, Aakatzeff. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places, or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic, and it is important when editing Wikipedia articles that such connections be completely transparent. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, we ask that you please:

avoid editing or creating articles related to you and your family, friends, school, company, club, or organization, as well as any competing companies' projects or products;
instead, you are encouraged to propose changes on the Talk pages of affected article(s) (see the {{request edit}} template);
when discussing affected articles, disclose your COI (see WP:DISCLOSE);
avoid linking to the Wikipedia article or to the website of your organization in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
exercise great caution so that you do not violate Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Please take a few moments to read and review Wikipedia's policies regarding conflicts of interest, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing and autobiographies. Thank you. Largoplazo (talk) 19:58, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

May 2016

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from Last Minute Travel, a page you have created yourself. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Contest this speedy deletion which appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the article's talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. Largoplazo (talk) 10:35, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The link to the Last Minute Travel website

Please stop citing Last Minute Travel's own website as a source for the claim that it is the first website focused on last minute travel. I understand that it's the company's own representation. But we have no reason to believe that this company has researched every single travel website that ever existed previously, anywhere in the world, to be sure this is true. Everything on Wikipedia has to be verifiable. Wikipedia requires reliable sources for each claim that is made. This claim calls for a source that can be considered reliable on this matter and that is independent of the company. Otherwise it's an unsupported self-representation by the company, falling into the category of peacock language, and, if not corroborated, it is subject to removal from the article. Largoplazo (talk) 16:31, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Answer to your emails

You say "The purpose of this page was to inform people about Last Minute Travel. Being that Last Minute Travel is a travel company, having a Wikipedia page is incredibly valuable when it comes to gaining the trust of potential and current users." In other words, you are telling us that the article was created in order to use Wikipedia to promote the company. Editing for the purpose of promotion is not permitted. Wikipedia does not perform the service to businesses of helping them to "gain the trust of potential and current users". The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 10:33, 31 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have now received your second email. Discussions about editing Wikipedia should normally be conducted openly, so that all members of the Wikipedia community can see them and comment on them, unless there are good reasons why particular content should be kept confidential. I can't see anything in either of your emails which needs to be confidential, so I am answering here. Please don't use email unless there is a need to do so, and I will not reply to further emails unless there appears to be a good reason for using email.

You say again that you are not trying to promote the company, but you don't seem to grasp the point that trying to "get a page out", as you call it, about a company in order to make it more visible to the public is promoting the company, just as editing in an attempt to "gain the trust of potential and current users" is promoting the company.

Since you are making such concerted effort to get promotional material about one company into Wikipedia, I assume that you are acting for that company, whether as an owner, an employee, a consultant, or whatever. That being so, as you have already been told you should avoid editing or creating articles related to the company, in view of Wikipedia's guideline on conflict of interest. As you have also already been told you must also disclose your employer, client, or other affiliation if your editing is paid: that includes editing which you are doing as part of employment or other paid work, even if there is no particular payment tied specifically to your editing Wikipedia. That requirement is not just a matter of Wikipedia guidelines or policy; it is part of the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use, and therefore a legal requirement.

I have searched for information about your company. Doing so took some effort, as it was necessary to sift through what I found and exclude anything which happened to use the common English expression "last minute travel" but not in connection to your company. Virtually all of what I found was on your company's web site, promotional sites, a download site offering your company's app, and so on: little if any coverage seems to exist in independent reliable sources. That being so, it is clear that your company does not satisfy Wikipedia's notability guidelines, and that being so, any article about it, no matter how written, is likely to be deleted: while some problems with articles can be dealt with by editing or rewriting, no amount of editing an article can alter the notability of the subject of that article. Any time spent on an article on a subject which does not satisfy the notability guidelines is therefore likely to be wasted. You asked what you can do "to make the page more appropriate", but I'm afraid there is no answer to that: no matter what you do, the page will not be suitable for Wikipedia.

I am sorry that this message has to be so discouraging. I have no doubt that you came here in good faith, sincerely believing that using Wikipedia to publicise your company would be acceptable, and you were no doubt unprepared for the negative reception your attempts to do so got. However, "Anyone can edit Wikipedia" does not mean "Anyone can edit Wikipedia in any way they like", it means something more like "Anyone can contribute to Wikipedia in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines", and I'm afraid what you have been trying to do falls foul of several of those policies and guidelines. While telling you this may seem unfriendly, I think it is actually much more friendly to make it clear to you what the situation is, rather than encourage you to put time and effort into trying to improve the article you wrote, knowing full well that in the end it is likely to be deleted again anyway. You would really be much better advised to try to publicise your company in other ways, rather than editing Wikipedia to do so. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:11, 31 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]