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Hi 1Kwords,
Murders of Marin Ueland
[edit]Not vandalism. There are two paragraphs which have nothing to do with the article. Read the edit before talking about vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.120.85.251 (talk) 09:12, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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You did neither of these. Kindly go fvck yourself. You're a terrible moderator. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.120.85.251 (talk) 18:54, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
Can you explain why the History Matters website is not a reliable source?
[edit]Yo deleted my contribution based on the website that I used. Just out of curiosity, what is wrong with the site? Mythdestroyer 09:25, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
- See my edit comment and if you wish to discuss it please do so on the talk page of the article. 1Kwords (talk) 10:54, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
- FYI, the source was reinserted. I removed it again. - Location (talk) 21:29, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]As per the discussion here Talk:Gaza_flotilla_raid#Arrested_v._detained. The lead should either say arrested or detained. Please change your recent addition of 'captured' to one of the terms for which there was consensus.
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Hey, I noticed over on the Kaga article that you felt the article had a bit of an issue, and someone responded "well, it has a perfect 5 rating." I hadn't noticed that voting option so I rated it based on how I felt, I encourage you to go give it a vote too. Kaga votey link
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Hi, want to help out with HSBC and money laundering aspects?
[edit]Hi, I'm writing to relatively recent contributors, including on the talk page, and asking if they want to help out. I still think there's a fair amount of work with this whole money laundering aspect, not that we've made mistakes, but rather in terms of making a good article better. For example, I think officials of the U.S. Justice Department have directly said they did not want to punish HSBC harder and risk the bank losing its license---because of risk of major economic disruption.
If you have time, please, jump in and help. We can probably very much use your help. Thanks. FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 21:45, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Using RFC template
[edit]You seemed a little unsure about how to use the RFC template so I thought I'd drop in and give a little advice. First and foremost, your RFC is in the "unsorted" category, which not everyone watches. You typically want to give it some sort of category with templates like this: {{rfc|pol|reli}} . This would include it in the list of politics related RFCs as well as the list of Religion related RFCs.
Second, there are lots of RFCs floating around out there, and user time is very limited. In order to get responses, you should really do all the work for us. This means explaining the dispute as neutrally as possible, and describing both sides to the best of your abilities. Sometimes this might not be possible if you're dealing with bad faith editors, but try to assume good faith until it is extremely obvious that good faith is absent. Additionally, you should include diffs of the dispute, for convenience. In longer and more complicated disputes, dozens of revisions are possible, after edits, partial reverts, and modifications are made. Sorting through this after a dispute has been raging for weeks is a nightmare, so diffs are always a welcome sight.
Finally, your efforts to resolve this dispute were limited to edit summaries. This is bad form, on both your parts. An RFC should not be the first and only comment on the talk page. You should attempt to resolve conflicts on your own before starting an RFC, starting with the article talk page. If that isn't seen, send the editor a message on their talk page, inviting them to discussion. Remember to assume good faith, most of my recent disputes have been the result of editors assuming bad faith in me, or I in them. Believe it or not, most people are here to improve the encyclopedia. Start a discussion and try to keep a cool head explaining why you think your position is correct. Paragraphs on a talk page can be much more persuasive than a sentence or two in a revert, which is seen by many as a slap in the face.
Hope that helps. PraetorianFury (talk) 17:45, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, that was my mistake. I thought that the first sentence Talk:Honor_killing#Sweden_section_-_relevance was part of the RFC. Usually RFCs get their own section, though it isn't required. Also, I didn't see the messages on that user's talk page. You did mention it, but I forgot as I was writing my response, my bad. It seems to me that you have been more than patient with this user. They still have not responded on their talk page. This behavior strongly suggests to me bad faith POV pushing. User that demonstrate cynical behavior such as this merely count reverts per day and per user to skim under the WP:3RR. If two users are reverting him, as is the case here, he will either have to resort to dialog or silently concede. Let's leave the RFC open for a week and if there are no responses from him, or an overwhelmingly one-sided response to the RFC, as I expect, then we can close it. PraetorianFury (talk) 18:46, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
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[edit]Hello 1Kwords. Thank you for your support during the edit war. Now, my mail to RG seems to have been usefull (I said they harm to reputation and image of SNCF TGV) as they finally update their article :) world-speed-survey-2013. I hope that, now, other editors will be more prudent even with "reliable" sources. What about your WP:RFC now ? Regards. --FlyAkwa (talk) 22:00, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- Bonjour! No problem. When you started to bring in more sources and your opponents kept going on about one single source instead of finding more, I decided whom to side with. I've seen similar debates before and the one who is in favour of bringing in outside arbitration or the one that seeks more sources to support his claim usually prevails. When the others did not respond to my suggestion of outside arbitration and made excuses for not finding more sources I had a good guess what was going to happen. Unfortunately the updated RG article does not seem to have ended the edit war and that a great disappointment to me. As for the RfC, I'll try to cancel it somehow. I think you should thank Z22 as well as he supported you, I don't want to steal credit from him. Cordialement, 1Kwords (talk) 06:37, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- I just thanks also Z22 for his help, as you suggested. The edit war seems (at least) finished, as the remained sentence hasn't been edited for 3 days (despite this sentence is near nonsenses and without relationship with its chapter). There is also another risk of "war edit" about the Spanish disaster.
- Unfortunately, the same guy now attempt to attack and remodel the "Land speed record for railed vehicles" page...
- Best regards. --FlyAkwa (talk) 10:37, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
- Hello 1Kwords. I'm sorry to disturb you again, but could you help me again to maintain the neutrality of the Land_speed_record_for_rail_vehicles page ?
- I'm afraid that the same guy "Bobyrayner" with its propaganda and misinformation try to make a new edition war, and he knows the mysteries to convince administrators against me. Unfortunately, I don't know theses tricks. And after its "loose" on the "High Speed Rail" page, he now attacks the "Land Speed Record Page".
- If I'm again alone against this guy, administrator will again take sides for him. Could you help to denounce its actions to the administrators ?
- Thanks. --FlyAkwa (talk) 19:51, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
- Bonjour FlyAkwa, I think the reason that administrators side with your opponent is that while he indeed at times fail to adress valid points by those who oppose him, he doesn't launch into personal remarks. For instance he never agreed to bring in outside arbitration for the last dispute, or even to discuss the quality of Google Maps as a reliable source on geography. You on the other hand, while you do make good points, you also start calling people trolls and "chinese train fans". At one point you even implied that our differences of opinion of the section naming in HSR article was that I was stupid. I can't say for certain that this is why the administrators take side with him since I am myself not administrator, but if I was one, it could be a reason if I was reading quickly through talk pages and didn't go deep into the issue. If you wish to prevail again, instead of coming at others with accusations of bias ("you're a troll") or lacking mental agility, you should stick to criticising their sources and their edits only. There are WP guidelines about this, see WP:DNIV and WP:APR. Invoke wikipedia guidelines on where they apply to make your arguments. (this is the strategy I try to follow) Right now I don't have the time to get involved in another edit war, sorry. This might change later in the week. Good luck! Cordialement, 1Kwords (talk) 06:20, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
A barnstar for you
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Thank you for your efforts to try to end the edit warring on High-speed rail page. Now that the issue is closed. I have a high hope that we will continue to see it as closed. Z22 (talk) 04:44, 11 September 2013 (UTC) |
- Thanks Z22 this is my first barnstar and it is great to know that my efforts are appreciated! 1Kwords (talk) 06:37, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi there,
Yes you did something for which I was legitimately thankful for, removal of poor prose or "How to" advice. However, I think that several of your deletion nominations are misguided. I am not trying to judge you or anything, but those two S&W revolvers are very notable as two of the most powerful handguns ever made. Their power threshold has eliminated many other models from the marketplace such as the Savage Strikers, Thompson Center Contenders, Encores and Remington XP-100s which were single shot or bolt action pistols chambered in high powered rifle cartridges. Those 2 revolvers by S&W have been met with such demand for Silhouette shooting and handgun hunting that the demand for the others has pretty much vanished. Why carry what is essentially a chopped down rifle with no stock that beats you up when you can get the same power factor from a 5 shot revolver that is more comfortable to shoot and carry? There are sources out there and if you are an astute scholar of google you should know that they supress sources pertaining to firearms as part of their misguided antigun policy.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 19:07, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Mike, I am not an active shooter myself and haven't fired a gun since the mid 90s, so I can't really comment on the quality of that firearm. I am still interested in discussing the sourcing for it, though. What must I do to find better sources on firearms with Google? If had found sources that prove market impact of this firearm that would have stopped me from nominating in the first place. 1Kwords (talk) 19:18, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- I can swamp the article with offline published sources if that would make you happy. Fortunately, google does not hold a monopoly on the world's knowledgebase.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 21:59, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Mike, yes of course, offline sources are as good as online sources. I was hoping there would be settings in Google that I could have tuned. 1Kwords (talk) 05:31, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
- I wish I could help you out on that, my friend. I know of no setting that can help you. --Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 13:49, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Mike, yes of course, offline sources are as good as online sources. I was hoping there would be settings in Google that I could have tuned. 1Kwords (talk) 05:31, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
- I can swamp the article with offline published sources if that would make you happy. Fortunately, google does not hold a monopoly on the world's knowledgebase.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 21:59, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
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Unnecessary behavior
[edit]In June 2014 did you add approximately ten requests of inline reference in the Copenhagen S-train article. Extremely overdone (why?, when?, how? who? etc - all in less than 8 lines). Please try instead to help Wikipedia to improve by looking for references - which you as Swedish and highly educated ought to be able to to. I found support for each of your complaints within less than two minutes. The flag and a few examples had been fully sufficient. This is not a formal complaint, but please try to limit questions in the text when you feel sources are called for. We do actually have common readers of our articles. And to them does this form of questions seem strange. Also - over time is the use the talk-pages more constructive 83.249.172.121 (talk) 01:38, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Especially since we have common readers it is important to make it clear when WP strays from merely stating the facts into the realm of as-yet unsubstantiated speculation. It is important that our readers read with a critical eye. At the time I was rather suggesting, in a roundabout way, that speculation about future plans which may never come to pass is not a good source of content for an encyclopedia. That's what train enthusiast blogs are for. I think WP and especially train articles on WP should simply stick to the facts which answer questions like: How do the trains run? Where do they go? Part of that section read like a discussion, rather than informative prose. I don't know what your native language is, but let me tell you that googling for Danish sources when I only have a Swedish keyboard isn't at all likely to yield quality results. Rather than only criticising me, you should criticise the editor who wrote that section in the first place. 1Kwords (talk) 08:44, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
Grammar and respect for sources
[edit]Both of your recent edits to Anthroposophy resulted in ungrammatical phrasings. Please be a little more careful in this regard.
Also: you removed material cited to high-quality published sources. If you doubt the value of these, it would be better request further sources (which I have now provided)--there are a variety of citation templates available to request this--rather than removing well-cited text without providing countervailing evidence. HGilbert (talk) 22:20, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
Harbour vs Port question
[edit]Hello, 1Kwords ! Since I'm not native in the English language have I wondered about "What is a port and was is a harbour ?". I asked a nice British contributor, who explained (largely) that generally a harbour can have several ports, but not the other way around. Hence did I use the expression "harbour to harbour" in the case of HH Ferry route. You have contradicted this. And therefore am I kindly asking if you are absolutely certain that "port to port" is better. Perhaps you could enlighten me even further, in my native language (Scanian accent Swedish) we have only "hamn" and in Danish (which I also know well) "havn". All well & cheers Boeing720 (talk) 21:43, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
- I didn't notice that you aswell is Swedish (Hejsan !), by the way. But my question remains. I'm uncertain myself. But as I've understood it, is a harbour in general larger (or atleast as large as) a port. Boeing720 (talk) 00:40, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
- I doubt our barbarian native tongue lacks the vocabulary to make the distinction between harbour and port and it seems even the port and harbour articles are contradictory on the subject. 1Kwords (talk) 06:43, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
- I didn't notice that you aswell is Swedish (Hejsan !), by the way. But my question remains. I'm uncertain myself. But as I've understood it, is a harbour in general larger (or atleast as large as) a port. Boeing720 (talk) 00:40, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
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Help needed
[edit]Hello.
My apologies if I am disturbing, but I wonder if you would be willing to check through the reference lists that I have posted in the following talk sections, in order to see if any of them are useful to incorporate into these or other Wikipedia pages.
I would greatly appreciate if you would be willing to insert the most useful ones into appropriate articles.
Thanks in advance for any help.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Islamic_terrorism#Various_important_statistics_and_articles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jihadism#Various_important_statistics_and_articles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Islamism#Various_important_statistics_and_articles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:European_migrant_crisis#A_few_new_relevant_articles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:European_migrant_crisis#A_new_study_about_German_media
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Immigration_and_crime
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Crime_in_Sweden#An_updated_list_regarding_the_situation_in_Sweden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:No-go_area
David A (talk) 13:05, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
- Hi @David A: I must encourage you to read the enWP guidelines on WP:RS and make the edits yourself using the sources you have found to be worthy WP:RS. Editing wikipedia can be borth rewarding and entertaining and I would not wish to rob you of this pleasure. 1Kwords (talk) 13:45, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
- Well, it is more that I work an average of 9 hours a day, 7 days a week as the main bureaucrat for one of the world's most popular entertainment wikis. I have tried to get a hole in my schedule to handle this for months, and failed completely. So, given your interest in these types of articles, apparent focus on facts rather than partisan ideology, and ability to read Swedish, I thought that it might be appropriate to ask you for help. David A (talk) 15:20, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
- Hi @David A: it is indeed appropriate to ask for help, but it is equally appropriate for me to say no. I can only regret that you prioritise other commitments above editing Wikipedia. If you don't have the time to do the edits you want done, why should anyone else prioritise editing you don't prioritise yourself? 1Kwords (talk) 15:36, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
- Well, I have severe OCD, and have fixated on managing my wiki for the last 3 years. I technically know that it is more important to share valuable information on Wikipedia, but haven't found the time to do so lately.
- Thanks anyway in any case. David A (talk) 15:52, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
- @David A: I can only wish you all the best in all your endeavours, whatever they may be. 1Kwords (talk) 15:54, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
- In case you change your mind, I have organised a lot of statistics and information links to a more easily overviewed list here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:David_A/Important_Fact_Links
- You also seem to value facts over ideology, so help would still be very appreciated. David A (talk) 15:10, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
- @David A: I am not likely to change my mind in the foreseeable future and I must ask you take me seriously on this instead of coming back to ask over and over again. Thanks in advance you for your future consideration. Again I cannot but wish you all the best. 1Kwords (talk) 07:53, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- Okay. Sorry. Never mind then. David A (talk) 09:10, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- @David A: I am not likely to change my mind in the foreseeable future and I must ask you take me seriously on this instead of coming back to ask over and over again. Thanks in advance you for your future consideration. Again I cannot but wish you all the best. 1Kwords (talk) 07:53, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- @David A: I can only wish you all the best in all your endeavours, whatever they may be. 1Kwords (talk) 15:54, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
- Hi @David A: it is indeed appropriate to ask for help, but it is equally appropriate for me to say no. I can only regret that you prioritise other commitments above editing Wikipedia. If you don't have the time to do the edits you want done, why should anyone else prioritise editing you don't prioritise yourself? 1Kwords (talk) 15:36, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
- Well, it is more that I work an average of 9 hours a day, 7 days a week as the main bureaucrat for one of the world's most popular entertainment wikis. I have tried to get a hole in my schedule to handle this for months, and failed completely. So, given your interest in these types of articles, apparent focus on facts rather than partisan ideology, and ability to read Swedish, I thought that it might be appropriate to ask you for help. David A (talk) 15:20, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church
[edit]Greetings, I've reverted your edit to Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church. The news article to which you linked specifies the Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church, not Ethiopian. Also, I do not understand Swedish and used Google Translate to read it, but the news article doesn't clearly make any allegation about the church spying on behalf of the Eritrean government. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 15:05, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks, I have obviously edited the wrong article. Well, it does make an allegation and I Swedish is my native tongue. Clearly the officials of that church in Sweden are regime sympathisers and the article states that government spies are active as members in the church. 1Kwords (talk) 15:55, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
- 1Kwords, one church in Sweden is not representative of all churches. Your accusation of the "church community in Sweden are regime sympathisers" is Slander of an entire community of people. The term "regime sympathisers" in the connotation that you are using is equivalent to the terms "terrorism sympathiser". As such this is equivalent to calling all Muslims as "Terrorists" because a "few Muslims are". You can't slander an entire community of people in this manner and Wikipedia shouldn't make such bold accusations.Authorityofwiki (talk) 03:28, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
- I have edited my previous post. Those other things you dreamed up about terrorist sympathisers and unrelated stuff are a classical Straw Man and are a logical fallacy. So how do you think the Swedish Radio content should be presented? It is a WP:RS after all. The article states that all churches organisationally belonging to the one in the article are the extended arm of the Eritrean government. Some churches have broken free of E-govt control, but those are not the ones receiving state aid from the Swedish government. 1Kwords (talk) 05:19, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
- The Swedish Radio is clearly presenting it's own POV by making such a claim. For your own education on Orthodox Christianity, you should read up on how the Orthodox Churches in general are a reflection and work with the nation they come from ie Russian Orthodox Church has ties to the Russian Government, Greek Church, Ethiopian Church (where there is clearly documented ongoing abuses by the government) but you didn't seem to add anything about that? My argument isn't a strawman because you are using a POV source to come to a conclusion ie "Eritrean Church members are regime sympathesers". Is "regime" in your statement, a negative connotated word? Because the word "regime" has been used in a negative connotation when speaking of governments that certain countries don't like. It's like calling a "freedom fighter"(government) , a "terrorist"(regime). The conclusion of the Swedish radio article is not a Reliable Source because it's filled with POV bias.Authorityofwiki (talk) 02:09, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
- That's an absurd claim about Swedish Radio. If anything, SR is usually very hesitant to publish negative news about immigrant community organisations. The straw man is where you accuse me of writing islamophobic arguments when I didn't. It is a regime because it's a dictatorship. 1Kwords (talk) 05:17, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
- Whatever your or SR's opinion of the Government as being a "dictatorship" doesn't change the fact of your slander of Community members (All members) as being "regime sympathesers". The Analogy of calling an entire group based on the actions a few of it's members is wrong no matter the group. You and your Swedish Radio source spouted Eritreanphobic sentiments and comments. Every Eritrean Orthodox Christian is not a "regime sympathesier" even if they go to a church that you or Swedish Radio has slandered as an "extension of the Eritrean government". What you are doing here is xenophobic/Eritreanphobic/Anti-ImmigrantPhobic. Stop your EritreanPhobic edits and rants.Authorityofwiki (talk) 06:21, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
- Are you done with your ad hominem attacks now? Whatever you think you're doing, a debate or discussion it is not. 1Kwords (talk) 16:38, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
- Whatever your or SR's opinion of the Government as being a "dictatorship" doesn't change the fact of your slander of Community members (All members) as being "regime sympathesers". The Analogy of calling an entire group based on the actions a few of it's members is wrong no matter the group. You and your Swedish Radio source spouted Eritreanphobic sentiments and comments. Every Eritrean Orthodox Christian is not a "regime sympathesier" even if they go to a church that you or Swedish Radio has slandered as an "extension of the Eritrean government". What you are doing here is xenophobic/Eritreanphobic/Anti-ImmigrantPhobic. Stop your EritreanPhobic edits and rants.Authorityofwiki (talk) 06:21, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
- That's an absurd claim about Swedish Radio. If anything, SR is usually very hesitant to publish negative news about immigrant community organisations. The straw man is where you accuse me of writing islamophobic arguments when I didn't. It is a regime because it's a dictatorship. 1Kwords (talk) 05:17, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
- The Swedish Radio is clearly presenting it's own POV by making such a claim. For your own education on Orthodox Christianity, you should read up on how the Orthodox Churches in general are a reflection and work with the nation they come from ie Russian Orthodox Church has ties to the Russian Government, Greek Church, Ethiopian Church (where there is clearly documented ongoing abuses by the government) but you didn't seem to add anything about that? My argument isn't a strawman because you are using a POV source to come to a conclusion ie "Eritrean Church members are regime sympathesers". Is "regime" in your statement, a negative connotated word? Because the word "regime" has been used in a negative connotation when speaking of governments that certain countries don't like. It's like calling a "freedom fighter"(government) , a "terrorist"(regime). The conclusion of the Swedish radio article is not a Reliable Source because it's filled with POV bias.Authorityofwiki (talk) 02:09, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
- I have edited my previous post. Those other things you dreamed up about terrorist sympathisers and unrelated stuff are a classical Straw Man and are a logical fallacy. So how do you think the Swedish Radio content should be presented? It is a WP:RS after all. The article states that all churches organisationally belonging to the one in the article are the extended arm of the Eritrean government. Some churches have broken free of E-govt control, but those are not the ones receiving state aid from the Swedish government. 1Kwords (talk) 05:19, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
- 1Kwords, one church in Sweden is not representative of all churches. Your accusation of the "church community in Sweden are regime sympathisers" is Slander of an entire community of people. The term "regime sympathisers" in the connotation that you are using is equivalent to the terms "terrorism sympathiser". As such this is equivalent to calling all Muslims as "Terrorists" because a "few Muslims are". You can't slander an entire community of people in this manner and Wikipedia shouldn't make such bold accusations.Authorityofwiki (talk) 03:28, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
Nothing ad hominem against you personally. But your claims against entire Eritrean Orthodox church members as being "regime sympathesiers" was and still is Broad Brush(Ad Hominem) attack on people that you Do not know personally nor the Radio Swedish(article) editors know either. I used analogies to make the point. I haven't accused you of anything personally but your edits and source are questionable and downright xenophobic.Authorityofwiki (talk) 02:59, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
- Well I think your comments on my tal page misguided, bullying and lack concact with reality. Accusing me of ranting is absurd, the ranter is always the one writing the longest posts. Coming to a user talk page instead of lifting the issue on the talk page of the article is the frequent tactic of someone not wanting other editors who know the subject to weigh in so you can rant in peace here. 1Kwords (talk) 05:23, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
- You added a statement on the Ethiopian Orthodox article with no basis in reality or fact. It was removed by Gyrofrog, rightfully so. Then you ranted and made broadbrush accusations against "Eritrean Orthodox church members are regime sympathesiers"(not verbatim), I corrected your rant. No need to have this "discussion" in the wrong article anyways. Other editors are more than welcome to read it here. I won't waste the talkpage space of the article for your edit which was reverted. Authorityofwiki (talk) 05:33, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
- It's yet another absurd claim that article talk page space is somehow limited. 1Kwords (talk) 18:58, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
- I assumed good faith when you added your edit. Then I read Gyrofrog's revert statements in your talkpage. I don't speak Swedish nor understand it. However, I do read and understand English. You made claims in English. I countered those claims you made in English because I couldn't allow a claim to be made that sounded like "Stereotyping", "Generalisation", "Xenophobia" based on a Swedish source (That is Not Translated and Confirmed for Validity). I assumed good faith but its unreasonable to expect Good Faith means "Accepting your Claims at Face Value". Nope won't do that! Good faith is a two way-street.Authorityofwiki (talk) 10:22, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
- You're making up guidelines about Translated and Confirmed for Validity. There's no such guideline, sources may be in any language. You're also acting like you have some policing authority by stating I can't allow. You don't have the authority to make up rules yourself. Wikipedia is based on consensus, not bullying. For all your understanding of English, the concepts of good faith and consensus may yet elude you. 1Kwords (talk) 17:57, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
- I assumed good faith when you added your edit. Then I read Gyrofrog's revert statements in your talkpage. I don't speak Swedish nor understand it. However, I do read and understand English. You made claims in English. I countered those claims you made in English because I couldn't allow a claim to be made that sounded like "Stereotyping", "Generalisation", "Xenophobia" based on a Swedish source (That is Not Translated and Confirmed for Validity). I assumed good faith but its unreasonable to expect Good Faith means "Accepting your Claims at Face Value". Nope won't do that! Good faith is a two way-street.Authorityofwiki (talk) 10:22, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
- It's yet another absurd claim that article talk page space is somehow limited. 1Kwords (talk) 18:58, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
- You added a statement on the Ethiopian Orthodox article with no basis in reality or fact. It was removed by Gyrofrog, rightfully so. Then you ranted and made broadbrush accusations against "Eritrean Orthodox church members are regime sympathesiers"(not verbatim), I corrected your rant. No need to have this "discussion" in the wrong article anyways. Other editors are more than welcome to read it here. I won't waste the talkpage space of the article for your edit which was reverted. Authorityofwiki (talk) 05:33, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
I'm sorry you feel bullied that isn't my intention. But there are wikipedia guidelines on use of non-English sources on English Wikipedia. [1]. Also even if your source is translated, the content matters as well. Authorityofwiki (talk) 02:59, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
- The issue isn't that I feel bullied, the issue is that you are using bullying instead of referring to Wikipedia Guidelines. You didn't even refer to them until I prompted you, instead you're making up stuff on your own with connections to neither guidelines nor reality. The guideline you linked to says Citations to non-English reliable sources are allowed on the English Wikipedia. ... it's not the content that matters, it's the reliability of the source. You simply can't bully material out of ENWP because WP:UDONTLIKEIT. 1Kwords (talk) 05:38, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
- What you added is still questionable from a NPOV standpoint. I already showed why your additions to articles did not meet NPOV. Any neutral reader of your addition would ask the question, "Does it mean all Eritrean Orthodox church members are regime sympathesiers?" Because your source made an impression of such a conclusion. You ran along with it and concluded "Eritrean orthodox church" members are "regime sympathesiers". I called BS and ontop of it, you used a non-English source to come to this conclusion. You did Original Research by using an unverified non-English source. The list goes on and on, on the many Wikipedia guidelines your addition violated. Gyrofrog already reverted it and asked you the question, your answer clearly shows Original Research and Anti-Eritrean bias.Authorityofwiki (talk) 23:19, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
- Are you a leader in said church? 1Kwords (talk) 05:20, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
- I am an editor on Wikipedia that is all.Authorityofwiki (talk) 04:59, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
- With a username like that? It seems specifically designed to intimidate other, proper, editors. What about "AnEditorThatsAll" as a user name? Why "Authority of Wiki", when, in fact, you have no special authority in this wiki. You should have started this discussion on the discussion page of the article, that's how you are perceived to be a bully. 1Kwords (talk) 04:25, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- I am an editor on Wikipedia that is all.Authorityofwiki (talk) 04:59, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
- Are you a leader in said church? 1Kwords (talk) 05:20, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
- What you added is still questionable from a NPOV standpoint. I already showed why your additions to articles did not meet NPOV. Any neutral reader of your addition would ask the question, "Does it mean all Eritrean Orthodox church members are regime sympathesiers?" Because your source made an impression of such a conclusion. You ran along with it and concluded "Eritrean orthodox church" members are "regime sympathesiers". I called BS and ontop of it, you used a non-English source to come to this conclusion. You did Original Research by using an unverified non-English source. The list goes on and on, on the many Wikipedia guidelines your addition violated. Gyrofrog already reverted it and asked you the question, your answer clearly shows Original Research and Anti-Eritrean bias.Authorityofwiki (talk) 23:19, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
- The issue isn't that I feel bullied, the issue is that you are using bullying instead of referring to Wikipedia Guidelines. You didn't even refer to them until I prompted you, instead you're making up stuff on your own with connections to neither guidelines nor reality. The guideline you linked to says Citations to non-English reliable sources are allowed on the English Wikipedia. ... it's not the content that matters, it's the reliability of the source. You simply can't bully material out of ENWP because WP:UDONTLIKEIT. 1Kwords (talk) 05:38, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
It's the name I chose. You asked me a question, I answered it. You asked for Wiki guidelines, I gave you the links. I don't have any special powers on wikipedia, the only power I have is the power to find the Wiki guidelines to show you where your edits went wrong. Actually, this "discussion" on your talkpage doesn't fit the guidelines of a talkpage discussion on a Wikipedia article. There is too much tangential topics of discussion which would be a violation of Wikipedia article talkpage guidelines. Look, I will stop writing on your talkpage with regards to this topic.Authorityofwiki (talk) 06:38, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Well at least we agree that you should get off my talk page and that you have no special authority on this Wikipedia. 1Kwords (talk) 06:59, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
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Cleaning up Immigration to Sweden
[edit]Hi!
You have to have been active on Immigration to Sweden recently. I have suggested that we should do a major reorganization of the article and maybe remove some sections. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts about this on the talk page.--Immunmotbluescreen (talk) 11:56, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
- Looks like the crime section will take some time, but could you fix a graph of the share of immigrants of the Swedish population over time similar to that found in Massutmaning for the history section? I think numbers and proportions are important for getting an understanding of the subject. The book should be either in your shelf or in a public library near you, but the statics should be online somewhere also. Since you already know how to do it.--Immunmotbluescreen (talk) 11:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
- Immunmotbluescreen I can only encourage you to learn doing graphs yourself, just follow the tutorials. The more editors ENWP has who are capable of doing graphs, the better. As you say, numbers and proportions are great for understanding a subject and I can only agree on this. Thanks for considering me but for the foreseeable future I am not able to do the edit you request due to time constraints. Best wishes, 1Kwords (talk) 17:23, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
- I now have the statistics and the source for the graph. Should I just do a figure in Excel/Calc graoh and upload it? Is there any rules or color schemes to be aware of? I got really busy, the last couple of days, but I'll make a push on both crime and history in the weekend.--Immunmotbluescreen (talk) 21:12, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Bravo! Yes, you can simply take a screenshot of the graph, crop it and upload it to Wikimedia Commons. Be sure to provide sources to Wikimedia Commons with license. Check the images I have uploaded there under the same username. The other alternative is to draw a graph in a sidebox with wikimarkup, see this example. 1Kwords (talk) 21:16, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- I now added the figure on the article, please give feedback. Thank you for the instructions--Immunmotbluescreen (talk) 01:09, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
- You're welcome, as far as I can tell the source is represented accurately and the graph looks good. I presume you have already looked at the documentation for that chart type? Template:Graph:Chart? There are a few other chart templates as well, for instance Template:Line chart. Find them by clicking the "Categories" at the bottom of the documentation pages and browse around. 1Kwords (talk) 21:39, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
- I now added the figure on the article, please give feedback. Thank you for the instructions--Immunmotbluescreen (talk) 01:09, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
- Bravo! Yes, you can simply take a screenshot of the graph, crop it and upload it to Wikimedia Commons. Be sure to provide sources to Wikimedia Commons with license. Check the images I have uploaded there under the same username. The other alternative is to draw a graph in a sidebox with wikimarkup, see this example. 1Kwords (talk) 21:16, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- I now have the statistics and the source for the graph. Should I just do a figure in Excel/Calc graoh and upload it? Is there any rules or color schemes to be aware of? I got really busy, the last couple of days, but I'll make a push on both crime and history in the weekend.--Immunmotbluescreen (talk) 21:12, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Immunmotbluescreen I can only encourage you to learn doing graphs yourself, just follow the tutorials. The more editors ENWP has who are capable of doing graphs, the better. As you say, numbers and proportions are great for understanding a subject and I can only agree on this. Thanks for considering me but for the foreseeable future I am not able to do the edit you request due to time constraints. Best wishes, 1Kwords (talk) 17:23, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
Since you speak Swedish and keep track of the public debate, could you share your views on the relevance of Sanandaji in this discussion Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Immigration_to_Sweden_(effects_on_crime)_and_Sanandaji--Immunmotbluescreen (talk) 09:16, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- Immunmotbluescreen You may want to write adjust instead of account in the sentence Accounting for things does not make them go away. You wouldn't say that eating a bag of potato chips is healthy if you account for fat, carbohydrates and salt. Eating that bag is still unhealthy. 1Kwords (talk) 16:27, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
A barnstar for you
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Thank you for your tireless efforts to improve WP:NPOV and updating outdated information on all the various articles about Sweden. Even though you are outnumbered by often unreasonable people you manage to stay calm and focus on improving the articles. After weeks on discussion on Immigration to Sweden, you certainly deserve this barnstar! | ||
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- Immunmotbluescreen thanks for the recognition. I have the ambition to stay calm in the face of adversity. It is a long process and subject to ongoing improvement. It is the only strategy that so far has yielded results. 1Kwords (talk) 06:54, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Misleading graphs to support an agenda
[edit]Dear 1Kwords,
As you have noticed I came across the graph shown below.
I've pointed out at Talk:Immigration_to_Sweden#Misleading_vertical_axis why this graph is not properly rendered. A percentage graph should always include 0 to maintain correct proportions between the lines. I came here to direct you to [[2]] to help you prevent the mistake to be repeated. However, looking at your contributions I see that you have rendered some graphs correctly, but some not.
Following graphs have the same problem, where misleading vertical axis have been used:
- File:SCB Södertälje taxable income as percentage of national average 1995 2017.png
- File:SCB Landskrona taxable income as percentage of national average 1995-2017.png
- File:SCB Malmo taxable income as percentage of national average 1995 2016.png
- File:SCB Landskrona taxable income as percentage of national average 1995-2017.png
All four of cities are well known to have a large immigration population. The decrease in taxable income as percentage of national average since 1996 is not very large but look huge in the graphs since the 0 has been excluded. Taken together it concerns me that these are the graphs that have been rendered in a misleading way and I have to ask weather this is a coincidence or weather this has been done intentionally.
Best regards, 83.252.117.151 (talk) 17:16, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
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- E.M.Gregory thanks a lot, it is nice to know my efforts are appreciated! First award I can add as a ribbon to my user page :-) 1Kwords (talk) 05:12, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
- Have you given any thought to creating an article on blade weapon attacks in Europe and immigrants. Stabbing attacks committed by migrants and asylum seekers. Stabbing attacks on migrants and asylum seekers. Stabbing attacks on politicians motivated by the fact that the politician supports or opposes mass immigration. Interesting article on the last type in Washington Post, here: [3]E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:20, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- E.M.Gregory Any standalone article must pass the WP:GNG and you'll need a few such articles or chapters/sections in reports published by WP:RS to prove notability. As for any standalone article. If you have enough sources, there's nothing to stop you from creating such an article. 1Kwords (talk) 05:08, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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- Doug Weller thanks for the warning about the discretionary sanctions, I will steer clear of these topics in the future. My edit on Gender studies was reverted, imho the Vatican are not qualified to criticise GS due to them being inexpert, for instance per WP:SCHOLARSHIP. So Vatican comments better belong in Politics of Vatican City article, or some other Vatican-related article. 1Kwords (talk) 17:13, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
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[edit]I would appreciate your input and help at the following talk pages. Thank you.
David A (talk) 03:55, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- David A, hi I can only help you with better sources: https://eso.expertgrupp.se/rapporter/tid-for-integration/. It is WP:RS and you should be able to contribute usefully to some of the articles you listed. Happy editing! 1Kwords (talk) 05:37, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Well, I do not have the necessary editing competence, at least not with the very limited time that I have available, and might also be topic-banned again if I do that. Thanks anyway in any case. David A (talk) 08:37, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- David A if you don't take the time to do the edits, clearly the edits you are thinking of are not a priority to you. I can't waste time to do unimportant edits either, I'm afraid. All the best, 1Kwords (talk) 20:08, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Well, I do not have the necessary editing competence, at least not with the very limited time that I have available, and might also be topic-banned again if I do that. Thanks anyway in any case. David A (talk) 08:37, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- No, I mean that I have basically been forbidden from doing any more direct edits in these areas, and that my past attempts have been clumsy, but I still think that the references contain important information. David A (talk) 04:04, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
@David A: as I wrote above I am not likely to change my mind in the foreseeable future and I must ask you take me seriously on this instead of coming back to ask over and over again.
. Which part of that was unclear? 1Kwords (talk) 07:29, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
- I did accept in my last reply. I just tried to explain myself. David A (talk) 08:27, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
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- Yay, my second Original Barnstar! Thanks E.M.Gregory, it is great to know my efforts are appreciated. 1Kwords (talk) 19:05, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
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[edit]Hello, I'm Doug Weller. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Islam in Sweden seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Specifically this edit. Doug Weller talk 07:04, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Doug Weller, thanks my edit could indeed have been better and thank you for improving the paragraph instead of deleting it outright. I found a source with Swedish Television and added some info from that. All the best, 1Kwords (talk) 13:56, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Turkish Dutch crime rates
[edit]Hi. I added some nuance to your dubious claim about crime rates of Turkish Dutch. Turkish Dutch are less likely to be suspect of crime than native Dutch of similar average income.NeoRetro (talk) 14:25, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi 1Kwords, I want to inform you that there has already been a failed move request from Islamic to Islamist in 2017 [8], since there was no consensus. On the day the move was requested a Wikipedian jumped the gun and changed the word Islamic multiple times into Islamist in the article, as well as the article name itself [9]. Some of his changes where reverted but not all (for example the first sentence of the article still is: "This article is about Islamist terrorist attacks and arrests in Europe. For non-Islamist terrorist incidents in Europe, see Terrorism in Europe." Could you have a look into it and change it? Unfortunately I still can't make edits to the article myself. Histogenea22 (talk) 11:05, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
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Tagging
[edit]Just to let you know, I have no idea who left this tag, all I did was format so that the tagger's reason actually showed - at least in that way we might know what needed clarification in that editor's opinion. Personally I don't think it's a clarification matter. Pincrete (talk) 19:18, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Pincrete, I don't think so either - adding information about how those laws were implemented in practice is a matter of extending the article rather than clarification about the laws being implemented. Also, I'd express my preference that this discussion had better been done on the talk page of the article but that is no biggie. All the best, 1Kwords (talk) 19:25, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Diannaa Hi, I rephrased the material in the that it is satisfactory. 1Kwords (talk)
- Diannaa So beyond
Content you add to Wikipedia should be written in your own words
the issue could has another fix: simply add quotation marks. 1Kwords (talk) 18:55, 23 January 2019 (UTC)- It's okay to use short quotations where there's no alternative, but for the most part Wikipedia content should be written in our own words. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:17, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
- Yet I can think of alternatives for the last article I pinged you. Thse sorts of discussions better belong under the talk pages of the respective articles. 1Kwords (talk) 19:28, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
- and @Diannaa:. 1Kwords (talk) 19:29, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
- It's okay to use short quotations where there's no alternative, but for the most part Wikipedia content should be written in our own words. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:17, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
- Diannaa So beyond
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[edit]Friendly reminder to attribute when you WP:COPYWITHIN as you did here.[10] Snooganssnoogans (talk) 14:41, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, you may be blocked from editing. Simonm223 (talk) 12:57, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
To make this more clear, removing or altering other users comments is a no no and could well lead to sanctions. There are exceptions, but it is hard to see how this qualifies, care to explain?Slatersteven (talk) 13:26, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Slatersteven thanks for pointing this out. It was not done intentionally and it is not something I ever intend to make a habit. My apologies. 1Kwords (talk) 18:05, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- We all cock up sometimes.Slatersteven (talk) 18:14, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
Edit Warring
[edit]You are now over the WP:3RR brightline with your undue insertion at Multiculturalism and I am formally asking you to self-revert rather than continuing to edit war. Simonm223 (talk) 20:59, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
List project
[edit]- Participants discussing Category:Crimes committed by illegal immigrants at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 January 24 have suggested that lists may work better than categories for this sort of topic. A list can also be embedded in an article, see: Stabbing as a terrorist tactic. Articles are not difficult to create.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:38, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- It seems that you know more about list articles than I do, good luck with your list project. In the meantime I have other projects in the pipeline. 1Kwords (talk) 08:08, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- Actually an an article about Illegal immigration to the United States and crime, with an embedded list. Just fyi.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:37, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
- * E.M.Gregory that list in the US article encompasses crimes that pass the WP:GNG, which leads on to the thought I had: a list need selection criteria according to WP:SAL. The GNG applies to articles, not article content and a list article shouldn't restrict every entry in the list to be WP:GNG, a list entry being WP:V (verifiable) through WP:RS is an alternative list inclusion criterion. 1Kwords (talk) 07:45, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, that would be valid. And I do think that similar pages could usefully be constructed for several countries, including Germany, Italy and France.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:14, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi, the history of your edits to articles discussing Islam, especially Islam in Sweden ([11][12][13]) shows a worrisome pattern that can only be termed as tendentious editing. It appears you are trying to find any sources that discredit particular schools of Islam, irrespective of their quality, and then stick them into Wikipedia articles. See, this is not how encyclopaedic editing works. I agree that some tenets in Salafism, etc., can be, and are, subject to valid criticism. However, what you are doing is simply introducing a WP:POV to articles, based on doubtful quality sources. I strongly suggest you slow down your crusade, because it cannot continue this way. You have already been warned and reverted many times previously. — kashmīrī TALK 10:55, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
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- Messier6 Hi, I'm not able to help you but you could pay an editor to contribute their time towards your project. There should be a "paid editors guild" or something of that sort here on enWP. Best wishes, 1Kwords (talk) 06:23, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
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Updated statistics
[edit]Hello.
I know that you have not been willing to help me out earlier, so my apologies for being a bother, but this time it is just a smaller issue, so I hope that you can make an exception.
Anyway, the Media of Sweden article lists statistics from 1999, even though there is a newer version of the survey, by the same researcher, available from 2011. I would very much appreciate if you would be willing to update them, as I am not good at handling such issues, and am extremely busy.
Thanks in advance for any help.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Media_of_Sweden#Updated_statistics_from_2011_instead_of_1999
David A (talk) 07:55, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- David A My time is more valuable than yours, in my own opinion. It seems that you take the diametrically opposite view but I don't agree with you. 1Kwords (talk) 18:48, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- Okay. Never mind then. I am working daily 12 hour shifts, and am not good at editing Wikipedia though. David A (talk) 19:42, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- David A Seriously, instead of asking me over and over againd despite me having politely declined on serveral occasions, why don't you pay someone (other than me) to do the edits for you? We're all adults here and you can't expect someone else to do your edits on Wikipedia for you for free just so you can work more and earn money. 1Kwords (talk) 05:52, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- Well, there are a few problems with that.
- For one thing, I would have to find somebody suitable online, as I am an autistic shut-in.
- For the second, I would have to reveal my real name if I made a Paypal transaction, and given that I have inserted statistics about some controversial topics, that is potentially very dangerous for me.
- And for the third, I don't know if that is allowed according to Wikipedia rules, even though I am sure that some of the editors who have inserted slanted propaganda here full work times for years, such as Snoogansnoogans, are likely unofficially paid by prominent political organisations.
- Still, I will try to eventually add the statistics on my own. I am mainly worried about making mistakes when the editing is not very basic. David A (talk) 10:51, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- David A Seriously, instead of asking me over and over againd despite me having politely declined on serveral occasions, why don't you pay someone (other than me) to do the edits for you? We're all adults here and you can't expect someone else to do your edits on Wikipedia for you for free just so you can work more and earn money. 1Kwords (talk) 05:52, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- Okay. Never mind then. I am working daily 12 hour shifts, and am not good at editing Wikipedia though. David A (talk) 19:42, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
somalis in norway
[edit]Moved to Talk:Somalis in Norway#moved from user talk page. A Thousand Words (talk) 18:49, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
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Römosseskolan moved to draftspace
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[edit]So sorry, for some reason I did not manage to find the trial info on the source at first. I apologise for being so trigger-happy with the warning (and making a bit of an arse of myself), and will restore the content. Doanri (talk) 18:15, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Orlando night club shooting
[edit]If you had actually bothered to look at my edit, and edit reason (abbreviated admittedly) - instead of jumping to a wholly wrong conclusion, you might have realised that I was removing duplicated categories. 'Islamic Terrorism in US' is parent of '… in Florida', ditto mass murder in both.
BTW don't you have anything more constructive to do than stalk me? I've been editing the Orlando page almost since it was created, and have always been clear that it should probably be categorised as BOTH Islamic Terrorism and as 'anti-gay' and possibly as anti-hispanic, though that is more speculative. Pincrete (talk) 11:22, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- You left no edit comment. A Thousand Words (talk) 12:12, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- 'parent cats' wasn't a reference to feline breeding! It's abbreviated admittedly, but since the categories removed were immediately below the ones that remained - I assumed others would actually assess the edit before jumping to conclusions. Apology accepted. Pincrete (talk) 12:22, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- The "motive" tag is deleted in the infobox and the jihadist motive was not in the lead section either. The article could be improved on those points. Nowhere have I disputed an anti-LGBT motive. A Thousand Words (talk) 12:38, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- 'parent cats' wasn't a reference to feline breeding! It's abbreviated admittedly, but since the categories removed were immediately below the ones that remained - I assumed others would actually assess the edit before jumping to conclusions. Apology accepted. Pincrete (talk) 12:22, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
Please be more careful with your reverts and don't restore vandalism
[edit]As you did here where you restored vandalism of a citation.[14] Thanks. Doug Weller talk 15:15, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
Racist content
[edit]This content you added/restored looks like anti-black racism to me, and it has been objected to by three users (including me). Does it also not look racist to you? At the very least, including such content would involve presenting it as neutrally. VR talk 13:45, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Vice regent: I’m having similar issues with this user RE racism, check out their additions to identity fraud. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 16:25, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
Hebdo aftermath
[edit]By pure chance, I came across this last night, Suspect in new Charlie Hebdo attack angered by republished cartoons, say Paris police about a recent event in which there appears to be a clear and explicit link to the original attack. The source on the text I removed makes no such connection. Pincrete (talk) 06:53, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi, the article Gaza Strip is subject to a 1RR and your last edit violates that. Further, you are simply mistaken on policy here. What you are removing is not a rumor or a Wikipedia editor's view, it is a verifiable and sourced projection. Please a. self-revert to correct the 1 revert rule violation, and b. discuss your edit on the talk page. Thank you. nableezy - 07:30, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ok I will start a discussion on the article talk page, where nableezy ought to have started it. A Thousand Words (talk) 07:33, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Discussion continues here. A Thousand Words (talk) 07:52, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Gender mainstreaming at Uppsala University
[edit]Hi, I reverted your edit here because it was in fact not correct, and because it was not information that belonged in the lede (even if it had been edited to remove the misleading text). The source you linked, a minimal blurb, did not claim that work was started in August 2020 (I'm not sure how "fortsätter att utveckla arbetet" could be interpreted as "began the process"), and the actual document linked in that blurb discussed the work that was carried out in 2017-2019, following a decision in 2016 – which was also mentioned in the blurb. As far as I can understand from the source, the only thing that is new about the government directive from 2020 is that universities and university colleges are required to document their efforts. That's not information that belongs in the lede section of an individual university. Of course every university would like to be seen as a paragon of gender equality, but Wikipedia articles are not the mouthpiece for the subject of the article. So ordinary gender mainstreaming work is not something that belongs in the WP article unless secondary sources discuss it. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 11:56, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
January 2021
[edit]Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize pages by deliberately introducing incorrect information, as you did at Uppsala University, you may be blocked from editing. It is not exactly a COI problem when somebody who works for an organisation removes text that appears to be added only to praise that organisation. bonadea contributions talk 14:21, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
In your edit summary you said, among other things, "...the UU press release says "the work continues"". Could you explain why you chose to use the incorrect wording "began the process", which is not only unsupported in your source but actually contradicted by it? Again, we don't need the university's own press release talking about their gender equality work. If there is anything special about it, find it in reliable secondary sources, and add it in an appropriate place in the article, not in the lede. Thanks. --bonadea contributions talk 14:24, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
- Bonadea you are a Conflict-of-interest editor on Uppsala University page as this is your workplace per your own user page. I have started the discussion in the appropriate forum. Adding material from reliable sources, even if a primary source in this case, is not disruptive editing. So in the spirit of cooperation you are invited to remove this warning. A Thousand Words (talk) 14:39, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
- The warning was not for "adding material from reliable sources". It was for restoring factually incorrect text. Since you took the time to write a long edit summary, you would have had the time to actually correct the content; I would still have opposed its inclusion since I think it is inappropriately promotional and absolutely not appropriate for the lede (as I have said above and on the article talk page), but if it hadn't been actually incorrect there would not have been any reason to warn you for disruptive editing, nor to revert your edit. You are obviously free to remove any warnings from your own user talk page. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 14:50, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
A request for some article expansion support
[edit]Greetings,
Requesting your visit articles Islamic advice literature, Draft:Aurats (word) and some article expansion support if you find articles interested.
Thanks and warm regards
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Anti wastren and islamism
[edit]Hello, I noticed that you have restored the article you deleted. I want to explain the reason why I deleted it first. The article spreads hatred and false beliefs. There is no need to mention such detailed words. It is only necessary to mention the names of the terrorist groups Mouzac12 (talk) 11:30, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
Edit-warring on Immigration to Sweden
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- A Thousand Words: From what you said at RSN, it's apparent you still don't understand what edit warring is which is a serious problem so I'll repeat what I've said there in case you don't read it. I strongly suggest you re-read WP:Edit warring if you want to continue to edit without being blocked. Edit warring is when editors repeatedly revert someone else's good faith change. It doesn't matter whether you're adding material or removing material although from what I saw you were doing both in your edit anyway, as highlighted by Szmenderowiecki, nor who's changes are right or wrong, nor whether your changes are sourced, and whatever else. Note it's obvious from this that it generally takes two to edit war, this is a well accepted maxim. Neither party to an edit war is generally considered right, again no matter who's changes may be right. Although generally speaking, per WP:BRD when there is a dispute regardless of sources etc, we keep the stable version before the disputed change pending discussion and consensus. But separately per WP:1AM etc, if one editor keeps making a change and multiple other editors are reverting them, the one editor is more likely to get into trouble. Per our policy it's only in cases like vandalism (which isn't good faith anyway), enforcement of overriding policies like BLP and edits from blocked/banned editors where it would not be edit warring, and none of this applied here. Also you've proven by your response that Snooganssnoogan warning was fully justified as you apparently did not even after the warning understand what edit warring was about. It's unfortunate you still did not understand, I suggest you pay attention to what you're being told rather than automatically dismissing such warnings because you think they're unjustified. Nil Einne (talk) 07:54, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
- I won't bother to say this at RSN since the discussion is already completely off-topic but for further clarity, you made this change [15] which to simplify, I'll say was fine as a BOLD edit. Snooganssnoogan made this edit reverting you [16] which while technically the start of an edit war, I'll also say was fine as a reversion of a BOLD edit. The next step is 'discuss', however putting aside the one edit marking a request for help as answered, the talk page has not been edited for nearly 2 years. Clearly the discuss part completely failed, one if you should have started the discussion. Instead of discussing (an edit summary isn't discussion), you simply reintroduced your changes [17]. We're now clearly in edit war territory. Note to be clear, even if you'd opened a discussion on the talk page, if you reverted before some consensus in the discussion this would stil be edit warring. To their credit, Snooganssnoogan brought it up in RSN. Personally I would have preferred to start at the article talk page, but they did try to discuss and importantly didn't continue the edit war. While technically EverGreenFir's was also a continuation of that edit war, considering the RSN discussion had already started by then and their change wasn't a simple reversion and their edit seems to have stuck with some further modifications, I think their editing was reasonable under the circumstances [18]. In other words, when we look at this, the only real conclusion is that you were the primary problem. Again, please don't make the mistake of thinking because you're introducing a sourced change, continuing to revert to keep it there isn't an edit war. That isn't how things work. Nil Einne (talk) 08:18, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
August 2021
[edit]Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, you may be blocked from editing. bonadea contributions talk 17:26, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Comment moved
[edit]I moved the comment you made here as it was smack in the middle of my comment and made it seem like I said it, when in fact you said it. I think you should put your responses after my comment, not in the middle of them. Thanks VR talk 20:34, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- Vice regent the idea was to tag it as my comment with a parenthesis and user/timestamp to clearly mark it as mine. If you think it's better at the bottom, fine with me. A Thousand Words (talk) 05:14, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
- I think what you did now is fine, thanks.VR talk 13:06, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
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[edit]Unreliable source
[edit]Moved discussion to talk page of Islam in Finland article where it belongs. A Thousand Words (talk) 07:32, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
- Your last comment still doesn't explain why you think www.alandsnyheter.com is a reliable source. The reason I posted on your talk page, not the article talk page, is that if this is not a reliable source, then this might constitute a behavior issue. The editorial you posted ends with "Photo: Laura Kotila, Prime Minister's Office". Yet the website seems to have modified the picture heavily to include Islamophobic tropes, as I highly doubt that the Finnish Prime Minister provided them such a provocative image.VR talk 21:08, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
ANI notice
[edit]There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. VR talk 01:12, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
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. Girth Summit (blether) 16:54, 12 December 2021 (UTC)