User talk:A diehard editor/refdump/Mary Grace

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Current consensus: A lot of these references are terrible. See #Comments#DoubleGrazing. Citations that I have considered "unusable" are struck out. Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL Reference dump This is a "reference" dump page, where I have dumped references which I may use to create a Wikipedia article, for review by other editors. The intended subject of these references is the Mary Grace Cafe (an article which was deleted in 2016 for being non-notable). Feedback appreciated at the talk page. These citations were exported using Zotero, so the parameters might be wrong upon inspection of the wikicode. Mendoza, Ingrid (2022-09-07). "Jo Koy Wants To Bring This Filipino Restaurant To The US: 'That S**t Is Amazing'". International Business Times. Retrieved 2022-09-09. Aseoche, Therese (2022-08-26). "The Mary Grace Café Ensaymada Shortage Is REAL—Here's Why and What They're Doing About It". When In Manila. Retrieved 2022-09-09. Aseoche, Therese (2022-09-06). "Jo Koy Wants to Bring Mary Grace Café to the US—Here's How They Responded - When In Manila". When In Manila. Retrieved 2022-09-09. Aseoche, Therese (2022-08-26). "The Mary Grace Café Ensaymada Shortage Is REAL—Here's Why and What They're Doing About It". When In Manila. Retrieved 2022-09-09. Arnaldo, Ma Stella F. (2022-09-02). "Jo Koy 'shocks' Mary Grace with shoutout - BusinessMirror". Retrieved 2022-09-09. "Ran out of your favorite 'ensaymada' at Mary Grace? Here's why | Coconuts". Retrieved 2022-09-09. Arnaldo, Steph (2022-05-27). "Oh no! Mary Grace explains cause of ensaymada shortage". Rappler. Retrieved 2022-09-09. Koppe, Jaclyn Clemente (2022-02-24). "How Did Mary Grace Cafe Become a Filipino Instituition? | Tatler Asia". Tatler Asia. Retrieved 2022-09-09. "Mary Grace, Auro team up for new dark chocolate cheesecake". Retrieved 2022-09-09. "Mary Grace Cafe: Out of the comfort zone to keep business afloat". cnn. Retrieved 2022-09-09. "Mary Grace introduces on-the-go hot chocolate bottles". RAPPLER. 2021-08-12. Retrieved 2022-09-09. "Heads up Cebu! Cafe Mary Grace is coming to town thanks to GrabFood | Cebu Daily News". Retrieved 2022-09-09. Cayabyab, Charlene A. (2021-08-24). "Mary Grace pastry shop opens at SM City Clark". SUNSTAR. Retrieved 2022-09-09. "'Grab is our best, first partner'". The Manila Times. 2022-04-30. Retrieved 2022-09-09. "How Cafe Mary Grace embraced digitalization with GrabFood – Manila Bulletin". Retrieved 2022-09-09. Bernardino, Stephanie (2022-09-01). "Jo Koy wants a meeting with local cafe owner – Manila Bulletin". Manila Bulletin. Retrieved 2022-09-09. Flores-Henares, Cynthia; Henares, Bianca. "The Way We Ate: Mary Grace Café". Philstar.com. Retrieved 2022-09-09. Comments DoubleGrazing Here's my take on this: The IB Times source is not considered reliable, per WP:IBTIMES. From what I understand, When In Manila is effectively a blogging site. Most of the sources are about the 'ensaymada' shortage, and do not amount to the sort of significant coverage required by WP:GNG. The Tatler Asia piece looks the best, but the title has a somewhat flaky reputation, and its reliability and/or independence could be questioned. In any case, that one source alone isn't enough to satisfy GNG, let alone the higher bar of WP:ORGCRIT. If these are the only or best sources available, I can't see this getting past AfC or NPP. Sorry, --DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:35, 9 September 2022 (UTC) Alright then. These references will remain in long-term storage. Thank you for your opinion. I will continue to add more sources here as I browse the internet. Keep in mind that I currently have no intent to even try to create an article about this restaurant. A diehard editor (talk | edits) 13:41, 9 September 2022 (UTC) P.S. There's also the fact that there is a Rappler reference which is reliable according to WP:RAPPLER. You also haven't commented on the BusinessMirror and Coconuts reference. A diehard editor (talk | edits) 13:47, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

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Do these references show that the cafe qualifies for a Wikipedia article? Regarding COI, I'm not associated with the restaurant in any way, but I did eat there in August 2022. A diehard editor (talk | edits) 13:15, 9 September 2022 (UTC)