User talk:2603:6080:5A07:C24C:2826:EC6A:8140:2117

February 2024

Hello, I'm Dark-World25. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Boeing 737 MAX seemed less than neutral to me, so I removed it for now. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Dark-World25 (talk) 14:04, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

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February 2024

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:56, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Anonymous users from this IP address have been blocked temporarily from editing from certain pages (Boeing 737 MAX) for persistent insertion of primary sources reverted previously.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  BusterD (talk) 15:07, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

This block is about behavior, not content, and you are blocked from Boeing 737 MAX only. Your edit warring has blown out of proportion a disagreement about a personal interpretation of primary sources versus what is said in reliable secondary sources. Discussion should continue on the article's talk space, not on the user pages of those with whom you disagree. My block was is the mildest sanction which could be brought to bear for your violation of 3RR. Please use the time to discuss the disagreement. BusterD (talk) 15:14, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

This feels a bit "chicken or the egg" to me. If the edit I made is minor and factually accurate, didn't someone else start an "edit war" by changing it back to the factually inaccurate information without bringing it up on the talk page? I'm genuinely asking, because right now it seems like I'm being treated differently than editors who aren't anonymous. 2603:6080:5A07:C24C:2826:EC6A:8140:2117 (talk) 17:07, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Respectfully, if Martinevans123 is who I'm being required to convince in the talk section, I do not feel that this is a fair debate. It seems that this is the user who originally accused me of engaging in an edit war, and at this point it seems like the user is not engaging in a good-faith discussion of the facts.

I really hope the factual integrity of Wikipedia articles doesn't come down to something like this. 2603:6080:5A07:C24C:2826:EC6A:8140:2117 (talk) 18:38, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) "IP 2603", the idea isn't necessarily to "convince" any particular editor(s) that you are 100% right. The idea is to gain consensus for any change amongst all interested editors. Turning up anonymously at a Talk page and pasting huge amounts of technical information, all at once, doesn't confer the privilege of repeatedly inserting wording that no one else has agreed to. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:11, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

2603:6080:5A07:C24C:2826:EC6A:8140:2117 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

The edits I made were factually correct and were intended to remove verifiably false information from outdated sources, as well as to foster a more neutral tone for the article which currently references many sources which are highly editorialized. I have provided abundant up-to-date information from publicly available and reliable sources on the talk page for the article I edited. I am not a regular Wikipedia editor; I am trying to help update articles pertaining to the 737 MAX without being disruptive and incorrectly formatting something by accident, as I do not fully understand how to properly format on Wikipedia. This is very difficult to do when regular editors immediately undo everything I've done, and simply refer back to the outdated and incorrect sources already in the article. 2603:6080:5A07:C24C:2826:EC6A:8140:2117 (talk) 15:26, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Decline reason:

This block is necessary to prevent continued disruption. As BusterD said, the sanction is the mildest available option. Per the block notice, your next steps should be to convince others at the talk page that your edits are improvements. You should seek dispute resolution if local discussion is insufficient. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:33, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

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