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Your submission at Articles for creation: Kate Current (August 20)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Dan arndt was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines for sports persons and athletes). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Fails the requirements of WP:NATH.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Dan arndt (talk) 23:59, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, 123456789athletics! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Dan arndt (talk) 23:59, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Kate Current has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Kate Current. Thanks! -- NotCharizard ^🗨 13:52, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

hi @Notcharizard Jazz Shukla is a near identical notable athlete and these two pages are very similar in the way they are written up. if the one was accepted surely this one will be too 123456789athletics (talk) 15:25, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure that's true though, in the sources for Jazz's article there are several news pieces about her achievements, and her infobox shows bronze and silver medals. Kate's article doesn't have either. I'm not saying Kate isn't as notable, like I said I don't know much about how sports articles work, but that it needs to be proved to the reviewers that she's notable so I'm just giving you a heads up on that :)

Even if there are other published articles seeimingly similar to the draft, that would come under WP:WHATABOUT and WP:INN. -- NotCharizard ^🗨 15:43, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

what about now? i have added alot more info 123456789athletics (talk) 17:28, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kate Current (October 31)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Spinster300 was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Kate Current and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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Spinster300 (talk) 18:24, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I do not agree with this review of the article. this was written in a formal tone, i provided many sources and included first hand accounts from reputable sources on the subject's achievements 123456789athletics (talk) 17:18, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

At least two of the awards are accompanied by excessive commentary. Drmies (talk) 17:19, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

one of the pieces of commentary was simply defining the award as stated in the article, in what way was that informal? 123456789athletics (talk) 17:23, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

the commentary was direct quotes from the authorities on the awards. the quotes were found within the sourced articles. 123456789athletics (talk) 17:20, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

if i remove the commentary and resubmit will it be accepted? 123456789athletics (talk) 17:22, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It will have a better chance, I think. And that's not about formal vs. informal--it's about promotional vs. neutral. That "these were the words" is really not so relevant, "for her contribution to women's athletics" is good enough. The bigger question is this: should a "local" award, in this case a university-wide award even be mentioned in the first place? Because what we typically list, in academia, are "highly prestigious academic award[s] or honor[s] at a national or international level": see WP:NPROF. In biographies of academics we don't list teaching or research awards from the university. Drmies (talk) 18:58, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

please provide an explanation. i sourced direct quotes to add further information as to what an award represents as well as a direct quote from the individual who decides on the award winners speaking to the achievements of the subject 123456789athletics (talk) 17:33, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kate Current has been accepted

Kate Current, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Bkissin (talk) 19:06, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Kate Current for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Kate Current is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 01:14, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why would this article be deleted. I worked for months on this, there are many similar articles currently up 123456789athletics (talk) 17:06, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]