User:Titodutta/CVU/Students/Jaaron95

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Please read the following articles/pages. Feel free to ask any question

• Vandalism
• Wikipedia:Vandalism

READ on 09 April 2015. --Jaaron95 (talk) 11:25, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Please read these pages too. Make sure to read from the beginning to the end.

• Wikipedia:Disruptive editing
• Wikipedia:No personal attacks
• Wikipedia:Avoid the word "vandal"

@Titodutta:, I've READ Wikipedia:Disruptive editing, Wikipedia:No personal attacks, and Wikipedia:Avoid the word "vandal"!--Jaaron95 (talk) 11:20, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Questions

• How do you fight vandalism in Wikipedia? Do you use tool (eg. STiki, Huggle)?

• I am reading it.. I don't use anti-vandal tools (Stiki or Huggle) as I don't have rollback rights and insufficient mainspace edits. --Jaaron95 (talk) 15:24, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
• Hi, @Titodutta: I have read the articles Wp:Vandalism and Vandalism! I currently fight vandalism using Twinkle and manual editing! --Jaaron95 (talk) 16:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
• Yipee! I got all the answers right on the page User:Titodutta/CVU!!! :D Waiting for more lessons! --Jaaron95 (talk) 17:13, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

• Explain in your own words-- what is vandalism?

Vandalism is attacking/destroying someone or something in-purpose to affect their/it's integrity or social status.

• What is good faith edit? What is bad faith edit?

Good faith edit is the edit made to help/construct an article in Wikipedia with good intentions.

Bad faith edit is just the opposite. It is the edit made with bad intentions, so as to attack someone or something!

• Provide 2 examples (diffs) of good faith edits and bad faith edits.

By 'diffs' you mean the edits made in articles which are good faith/bad faith? The links of the differences between the previous and current edits?? Please clarify!--Jaaron95 (talk) 09:49, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

• Differences between two versions, this diff shows your last comment. You may use Template:Diff --Tito Dutta (talk) 10:01, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
• Eg. Good faith Edit

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Education_In_India&diff=655655976&oldid=655643716
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Social_networking_service&diff=655502756&oldid=655502536

• Eg. Bad faith Edit

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Play&diff=655324878&oldid=655323962
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paniyali_kasimpur&diff=655317538&oldid=655313233

• Is there anything such as 'unintentionally vandalizing'? The user vandalized an article but that wasn't his/her intention..--Jaaron95 (talk) 14:19, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Looks good. I don't think "unintentional vandalism" is "vandalism" at all. A vandal act needs to be intentional, IMO. --Tito Dutta (talk) 13:28, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

• Tell in brief, what have you understood from Wikipedia:Avoid the word "vandal"?

The word 'vandal' must be used only in rare circumstances. i.e., the vandalism is deliberate which does not include accidental damage to an article. In short, vandalism in most cases should not be considered vandalism at the first place. The word must be used when the act of vandalism is cent percent confirmed! --Jaaron95 (talk) 11:41, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

• An editor is contiguously nominating articles for deletion without understanding Wikipedia deletion policy. As a result, a good number of his nominations are being kept (it is a different thing, if he tries to become an admin, it'll go against him), would you call his edits "vandalism" or "disruptive edits"? Why?

I would term his edits as disruptive editing and not as vandalism. Because, the editor's intentions on nominating the article for deletion is based on good faith, i.e., he is not trying to vandalize or spoil the integrity of Wikipedia, rather he is nominating the article for deletion based on the policy he knew, which is clearly not a vandalizing act. If such a case occurs, it is good to explain the policy to the editor. If he doesn't comply, this can be brought in-front of WP:ANI seeking a third person's intervention to come to a consensus.--Jaaron95 (talk) 11:41, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

• Follow-up: How should you deal with such user?

First of all if the edit seems to disruptive, then simply revert the edit. If the user unreverts it with no citations to his claim, revert the edit and ask for a third person's intervention by going to WP:ANI, but if the user has added a source this time but the sources are unreliable and the info. is false, go to WP:DRN/WP:RSN/WP:RFM (one by one).. The above mentioned actions are done just to bring the user to a dialogue... If those steps fail and the user has exceeded three reverts, report at WP:ANEW... If the user doesn't come to a consensus after RfC, try WP:ANI again to leave it to the hands of an Admin (for a temp. block or a warning).. If this fails too, your last hope is go to WP:AC... --JAaron95 | Talk | Contribs 07:14, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

• Have you started using WP:ROLLBACK tool? If "yes", provide a couple of examples where you have used the tool? Feel free to ask any question related to rollback toll.

I've used the rollback tool, but can you tell me how to find them from my contributions (any special search or something?)??

MY DOUBTS: How is vandalism tool different from Twinkle Rollback? Any specific interests? I also before applying for rollback right came across some statements which said 'accidental use may cause serious damage'... How's that possible? And what kind of damage... One more, can doubts about WP:AWB and WP:HUGGLE be asked in this course?--JAaron95 | Talk | Contribs 19:18, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

• Some people consider Twinkle as better tool. How is vandalism tool different from Twinkle Rollback? — you'll get some clue here. You don't have Twinkle links on watchlist, however I have hidden those links from my watchlist.

I am not a huggle expert, but I may try answering AWb related question unless you ask some difficult regex or assesssment question. --Tito Dutta (talk) 19:41, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

• Please explain only the main points of WP:3RRNO in your own words.

While a editor should not perform more than three reverts in a single page in 24 hours which can lead to his loss of rollback right, at times the editor can be exempted from the 3RR rule. Reverting his/her own edits, in articles or in talk pages. Reverting edits which constitute vandalism and the content can cause defame/spoil the integrity of Wikipedia or the thing/person associated with the article. Reverting content which are considered illegal by the government of US and content which are copyright violated for sure...--JAaron95 | Talk | Contribs 19:18, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Doubt-clearing

Please feel free to questions on vandalism or general Wikipedia editing here.

1. How do I filter out the reverts that I've made using the rollback tool from my contributions..?

I do not know about it. RB mark€s edit as "minor edits". There might be some option, but I do no know about it. You may ask at WP:HD WP:THQ

I've asked them... There is no option. It's difficult for me to find only rollback reverts. But you can check my contributions of STiki reverts which makes use of rollback tool...

2. What is the use of AWB? How to use it? I tried a bit but couldn't figure out the how tos....

AWB is a semi-automated browser that helps to make edits quickly. What happened when you tried using it? Do you have AWB using permission?

Yes, I do have AWB rights... This was what happened. this diff... I got some idea about AWB from the IRC channel..

PS. Keyboard and some parts of my computer are not working properly now. --Tito Dutta (talk) 22:37, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

No worries! Take your time! But don't forget to check this page when possible!--JAaron95 | Talk | Contribs 05:20, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Please feel free to ask any other question. We'll conclude this training soon. --Tito Dutta (talk) 08:21, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

When using STiki, will you just remain in the STiki window itself, or you'll go to the browser and the article to do some research when in doubt? 2) If an editor edits blanks some content or adds some details without references, should we Good Faith revert the edit, or just leave it (in STiki)? 3) If the user reverts back but now with an accurate edit summary/reference, is it better to leave it to the page watchers? --JAaron95 | Talk | Contribs 10:30, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

1. To review an edit properly, you may need to view it on web, specially if you do not get a clear idea from STiki window, you may also check the user's contribs if you think they are making similar edits in other articles too, 2. entire page blanking without any clear edit summary is vandalism, adding correct information without reference or minor wiki formatting error is good faith edit, 3. it depends on how confident you are with your revert, if I see someone has reverted my revert, I'll probably undo it once again or start a discussion at talk if I am confident. --Tito Dutta (talk) 11:30, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll come to you if ever I face any troubles or doubts.. --JAaron95 | Talk | Contribs 14:21, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Tests

• Please take this test meta:India Access To Knowledge/Resources/Tests/Identifying vandalism Tito Dutta (talk) 21:02, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Took the test! That was 80/100... Got 1 and 9 wrong... --JAaron95 | Talk | Contribs 07:25, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

• From tomorrow make a list of 30 reverts below you'll make on Wikipedia. Remember 1) you can not choose reverts (you have to include every revert whether you consider those vandalism or not) 2) You can tag vandalism with "Yes". "No" or Y, N 3) Add "diff"s using "{{diff}}" template. 3) Make sure to add appropriate edit summaries, warn users, report to noticeboards etc (if necessary). See this for help.

#	Diff	Y or N	Jaaron95's comment on the revert	Marks obtained and examiner's comment (optional)
1	[1]	Y
2	[2]	N
3	[3]	N
4	[4]	N
5	[5]	Y	While I don't think this as a serious vandalism, it can be considered as a joke edit
6	[6]	N
7	[7]	N
8	[8]	Y	Am not cent percent sure that this can be considered as vandalism, the user added his name (which I found out after a little bit of googling) which is an unconstructive editing
9	[9]	N
10	[10]	N
11	[11]	Y	And this one was not constructive but vandalism?? I'm not sure..
12	[12]	Y	This one was a test editing/but definitely not constructive
13	[13]	Y	I wanted to AGF revert this one, but on seeing the history, the editor has provided no valid reason for the first time, and even after the revert ClueBot he didn't which I considered as vandalism.. The user has again reverted but this time with some summary, so I left it to the page watchers
14	[14]	N
15	[15]	N
16	[16]	Y
17	[17]	N
18	[18]	N
19	[19]	N	Can this be a vandalism? o.O
20	[20]	N
21	[21]	Y	This edit has been made purposefully, so I considered this as vandalism
22	[22]	N	This one happened twice, yesterday I assumed AGF, today it's Vandalism
23	[23]	N
24	[24]	Y
25	[25]	Y	Joke editing?
26	[26]	Y
27	[27]	Y
28	[28]	Y
29	[29]	N
30	[30]	N

P.S.: (Small mis-arrangement) S.No. 18 was supposed to be S.No. 30...

•  Done --JAaron95 | Talk | Contribs 19:05, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Passed

Following the discussions above I have reasons to believe that you can properly and systematically fight vandalism on Wikipedia. You are a CVU graduate. Please come back if you have queries. --Tito Dutta (talk) 13:26, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Titodutta for valuable help and mentoring me all the way! I appreciate your commitment and help!! --JAaron95 | Talk | Contribs 14:41, 30 April 2015 (UTC)