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Conversion tryouts

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1 imp gal (4.5 L; 1.2 US gal)

1 imp gal (4.5 L; 1.0 US dry gal)

GWR people with ODBN entries

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  • Armstrong, Joseph (1816–1877), locomotive engineer. Birse, Ronald M. (2004). "Armstrong, Joseph (1816–1877), locomotive engineer". Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (online ed.). Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/57378. {{cite encyclopedia}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help) (Subscription or UK public library membership required.) - includes George Armstrong (1822–1901), locomotive engineer
  • Emma Saunders – non-GWR philanthropist. The railwaymen's friend – picture of plaque on geograph. See also brighton railway mission and Elizabeth Gates.
  • Charles Ernest Paolo della Diana Spagnoletti – signals & telegraph

Other

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Created 1894

89 mm 3 gauge

Abolished 1974

Created by Local Government Act 1894, superseded the local sanitory district.

Absorbed into the Torfaen County Borough Council and Monmouth County Council. Both created by the 1974 local government act.

Included the civil parishes of Goetre Fawr, Gwehelog Fawr, Llanbadoc Fawr, Llanfrechfa Lower, Llangybi Fawr, Llanhenwg Fawr and Llantrisant Fawr.

Replacement programme

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Great Western Railway 5700 class
A green pannier tank locomotive standing at a platform with a red passenger carriage behind. The lettering "GREAT WESTERN" is shown in yellow on the side of the pannier tank.
GWR 5700 Class no. 4612, as preserved on the Bodmin & Wenford Railway.
Type and origin
Power typeSteam
DesignerCharles Collett
Builder
Order numberSee Build details below
Build date1929–1950
Total produced863
Specifications
Configuration:
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 • Whyte0-6-0PT
 • UICC nt
Gauge4 ft 8+1⁄2 in (1,435 mm)
Driver dia.4 ft 7+1⁄2 in (1.410 m)
Minimum curve
  • 5 chains (330 ft; 100 m) normal
  • 4+1⁄2 chains (300 ft; 91 m) slow[a]
Wheelbase15 ft 6 in (4.72 m)
Loco weight15 imp ton 7 cwt (37,500 lb or 17 t) full
Boiler
  • Barrel: 10 ft 3 in (3.12 m)
  • Outside diameter: 4 ft 5 in (1.35 m) & 4 ft 3+7⁄8 in (1.318 m)
  • Pitch: 6 ft 11+3⁄4 in (2.127 m)
Career
Power class
Axle load classGWR: Blue until 1950, then Yellow
Withdrawn1956–1966
Preserved16
  1. ^ 6700-49 – 4 chains (260 ft; 80 m) (normal) and 3+1⁄2 chains (230 ft; 70 m) (slow).

1929 – scrapping of old locos underway (lF E4).

5700(C) and 9400 (H) – large – E6 54XX(64xx AND 74XX) (C) and 16xx (H) – smaller E6

15XX (H) – slightly odd and aside from other groups E6

also 1366 (C) (equivalent 1361) (Holcroft) E6 light/short also 97XX (C) replacing 633 (Armstrong)

NB 0-6-2T (LF) and 5600T (Chack 87)

Also 2-6-2T Churchward – virtually unchanged

Also 0-6-0s Chack 95 => 2251 (common features with 5700) Chack 97

Also 4800 0-4-2T (replacing Armstrong 517)

Livery notes – need refs

route classification – position change and colour change.

The first 5700s built were painted in the standard GWR livery of the time: mainly green above the running plate with the words "GREAT WESTERN" painted in yellow letters with red and black shadowing on the pannier tanks, buffer beams painted red with the number shown in yellow letters with black shadowing, and the front of the smokebox and chimney were black.[1] From 1934 the GWR "shirtbutton" roundel replaced "GREAT WESTERN".[2] From 1942 GWR replaced the roundel with the letters "G W R", in yellow letters with red and black shading.[3] Due to wartime shortages most locomotives were painted black from 1942 to 1945.[4]

After nationalisation, some 5700s were painted in BR green with the words "BRITISH RAILWAYS" on the side,[5] but unlined black soon became the standard for tank locomotives, with the BR crest on the sides of the tanks. Some 5700s also had white and red lining on the pannier tanks and cab sides. The BR crest was changed in 1957.[6]

The 5700s bought by London Transport between 1956 and 1963 were repainted in the standard LT maroon livery with yellow and black lining.[7] Those bought by NCB were painted in a light green.[8]

  • A pannier tank locomotive is standing at a platform with a red passenger carriage in front of it. The locomotive is mainly painted green above the running plate, although the chimney is black and the safety valve cover is polished brass. The lettering "GREAT WESTERN" is shown in yellow with red shading on the side of the pannier tank. The rear buffer beam is painted red.
    1929–34 GWR livery
  • A pannier tank locomotive is standing outside an engine shed. The locomotive is mainly painted green above the running plate, although the chimney is black. On the side of the pannier tank a yellow circle encloses the yellow letters "G W R". The G and are shaped to match the curve of the enclosing circle.
    1934–42 GWR livery
  • A pannier tank locomotive is pulling a milk wagon. The locomotive is painted black. The words "GREAT WESTERN" is shown in yellow with red shading on the side of the pannier tank. The front buffer beam is painted red.
    1942–45 Wartime black
  • A pannier tank locomotive is standing over an inspection pit. The locomotive is mainly painted green above the running plate, although the chimney is black and the safety valve cover is polished brass. The letters "G W R" are shown in yellow with red shading on the side of the pannier tank. The front buffer beam is painted red.
    1942–47 GWR livery
  • A pannier tank locomotive is standing on a siding. The locomotive is mainly painted black. On the side of the pannier tank is a crest consisting of a red and white spoked wheel. Across the wheel is a black and white label with the words "BRITISH RAILWAYS". A yellow lion stands on the label, above the wheel. On the side of the cab is a red number plate with the edge and number in brass. The rear buffer beam is red.
    BR black livery
  • A pannier tank locomotive is pushing a cream and brown passenger carriage. The locomotive is mainly painted black, but there is red and white lining on the side of the pannier tank, the cab, and the bunker. On the side of the pannier tank is a crest consisting of a red and white spoked wheel. Across the wheel is a black and white label with the words "BRITISH RAILWAYS". A yellow lion stands on the label, above the wheel. On the side of the cab is a black number plate with the edge and number in brass. The front buffer beam is red.
    BR lined livery
  • A pannier tank locomotive is pulling two cream and brown passenger carriages. The locomotive is mainly painted maroon, but there is black and yellow lining on the side of the pannier tank, the cab, the bunker, the toolbox, and the splashers. The words "LONDON TRANSPORT" are shown in yellow on the side of the pannier tank. The chimney and front of the smokebox are black. The front buffer beam is red.
    LT livery
  • A pannier tank locomotive is on static display with wooden steps leading up to the cab. The cab, bunker, and pannier tank is painted light green. The chimney, smokebox, splashers, running plate, and wheels are all in black. The front buffer beam and coupling rods are red. The words "NCB 7754" are shown in white on the side of the pannier tank. The number is also shown on the smokebox door in white letters.
    NCB livery
  1. ^ Elliott 2012a. sfn error: multiple targets (2×): CITEREFElliott2012a (help)
  2. ^ Elliott 2012b. sfn error: multiple targets (2×): CITEREFElliott2012b (help)
  3. ^ Elliott 2012c. sfn error: multiple targets (2×): CITEREFElliott2012c (help)
  4. ^ Bryan 1995, p. 147.
  5. ^ Dare 2011. sfn error: multiple targets (2×): CITEREFDare2011 (help)
  6. ^ Elliott 2012d. sfn error: multiple targets (2×): CITEREFElliott2012d (help)
  7. ^ Jones 2014, p. 86.
  8. ^ Jones 2014, p. 169.

Appraisal

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Put this below accidents?

production

dynamic

banking

problems

5600 LF E76

Put Collett's replacement programme here?

Was British Rail Class 08 the replacement on WR? Add to See also section?

Also British Rail Class 14 – local freight (Cardiff)

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  • 5400 1930ish smaller, autoworking
  • 6400 1932 smaller, autoworking
  • 7400 1936 as 7400 no autoworking
  • 1366?
  • 2251 Collett goods
  • 1600 small Hawksworth
  • 9400 large Hawksworth (boiler from 2251)
                        • End here

Odd comment from Nock about 2021 and wheelbase.

same wheelbase as Dean's goods 2301 – completely modernised – Nock

someone – new design – improved valve settings, new motion

oddly – no prototyping

also – somewhere – need a section on the scrap and replace program

Numbers built – detailed

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Number of 5700s built by year
Year 1929 1930 1931 1932 1933 1934 1935 1936 1937 1938 1939 1940 1941 1942 1943 1944 1945 1946 1947 1948 1949 1950
Numbers Wh[1] 101 145 54 0 31 49 40 45 50 37 53 32 18 37 26 22 43 29 10 17 14 10
Swindon LF 35 15 0 0 31 49 40 45 50 37 53 32 18 37 26 22 43 29 10 17 14 10
Contractors LF 62 123 65 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Total LF 97 138 65 0 31 49 40 45 50 37 53 32 18 37 26 22 43 29 10 17 14 10
Swindon BRS 35 15 0 0 31 49 40 45 50 37 53 32 18 37 26 22 43 29 10 17 14 10
Contractors BRS 62 128 60 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Total BRS* 97 143 60 0 31 49 40 45 50 37 53 32 18 37 26 22 43 29 10 17 14 10
Swindon All BRS 120 99 90 79 103 106 138 156 150 125 157 97 48 82 37 44 63 69 58 63 76 74
% Swindon 29% 15% 0% 0% 30% 46% 29% 29% 33% 30% 34% 33% 37% 45% 70% 50% 69% 42% 17% 27% 18% 14%
All Big Four 412 305 345 268 215 298 355 331 369 287 276 146 139 223 158 253 261 244 286 299 231 284
% Big Four 8% 5% 0% 0% 14% 16% 11% 14% 14% 13% 19% 22% 13% 17% 16% 9% 16% 12% 3% 6% 6% 4%
Contractors UK 107 157 86 5 0 97 209 232 196 0 0 0 0 50 0 0 0 73 105 96 89 101
All UK 519 462 431 273 215 395 564 563 565 287 276 146 139 273 158 253 261 317 391 395 320 385
%UK 19% 31% 14% 0% 14% 12% 7% 8% 9% 13% 19% 22% 13% 14% 16% 9% 16% 9% 3% 4% 4% 3%

1947 – 10 9700s built at Swindon

1949–50 – first two years of building of 9700s by contractors

bits

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  • improved cab designs, eventually becoming fully enclosed E10
  • superheating
  • autogear (1905)
  • Vacuum brakes?
  • Higher boiler pressures?
  • Train heating?
  • ATC? Collett's directive? No. 1044 (E17), see E24 vague on dates,

Variety of weight and power classification?

Jones 21 5700s – first 0-6-0T built by contractors to GWR design?

5700s – first 0-6-0T with ATC?

5700s – most powerful? maybe, but tractive effort is theoretical 5700s go (almost) everywhere, do (almost) everything

More on modernisation – in lead and own section

Preservation notes

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  • banking (but nb Folkestone Harbour)
  • royal train
  • impersonating Duck
  • Peak Rail – 9600 vintage railways

Steam Locos in Profile – The GWR 5700 Pannier Tanks – a 15 minute Youtube documentary

Testing

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A reference to chariots.[2]

A test Whitehurst ref[3]

Notes

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  1. ^ Whitehurst 1973, pp. 32–34, 41–42, 51–52, 59–60, 67–68, 71–72, 74–76.
  2. ^ Brooks, Grimwood & Swenson 2009, p. 999, Priming the Pipeline.
  3. ^ Whitehurst 1973, p. 32, Priming the Pipeline.

Testing No. 2

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Random text to get the order of refs without authors...[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] [25] [26] [27]

[28] [29] [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38] [39] [40] [41] [42] [43] [44] [45] [46] [47] [48]

Notes No.2

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  1. ^ Gibson, John (1984). Great Western Railway Locomotive Design – a Critical Appreciation (1 ed.). Newton Abbott, UK: David & Charles. ISBN 0-7153-8606-9. OCLC 12666432.
  2. ^ "5750 Livery 'comeback' for The Railway Children Pannier". Heritage Railway. No. 190. Horncastle, Lincs, UK: Mortons Media. 5 June 2014.
  3. ^ "3650". Didcot Railway Centre – Home of the Great Western Society. 19 May 2012. Retrieved 1 July 2014.
  4. ^ "3738". Didcot Railway Centre – Home of the Great Western Society. 10 August 2013. Retrieved 1 July 2014.
  5. ^ "9629's History". The Pontypool & Blaenavon Locomotive Group. Retrieved 23 September 2014.
  6. ^ "4612 – Steam Locomotive". Bodmin and Wenford Railway. Retrieved 21 September 2014.
  7. ^ "5700 Pannier Tank". Dapol Model Railway Company. Retrieved 23 June 2014.
  8. ^ "9681 – Pannier Tank Engine". Dean Forest Railway. Retrieved 23 September 2014.
  9. ^ Atkins, Philip (1999). The Golden Age of Steam Locomotive Building (1 ed.). Penryn, Cornwall: Atlantic Transport Publishers and the National Railway Museum. ISBN 0-906899-87-7. OCLC 468585665.
  10. ^ Bryan, Tim (1995). The Great Western at War 1939–1945 (1 ed.). Yeovil, Somerset, UK: Patrick Stephens. ISBN 1-85260-479-4. OCLC 60238810.
  11. ^ Casserley, H. C. (1979). The last years of Metropolitan Steam (1 ed.). Truro, UK: D. Bradford Barton. ISBN 0-85153-327-2. OCLC 810550677.
  12. ^ "7754". Llangollen Railway Enthusiast and Archive Website 2014. Retrieved 23 September 2014.
  13. ^ Chacksfield, John (2002). C.B Collett A Competent Successor (1 ed.). Usk, UK: The Oakwood Press. ISBN 0-85361-586-1. OCLC 51740457.
  14. ^ Earnshaw, Alan (1993). Trains in Trouble: Vol. 8. Penryn: Atlantic Books. ISBN 0-906899-52-4.
  15. ^ Dare, Kevin (2011). "3650's History". 3650. Retrieved 4 October 2014.
  16. ^ Elliott, Russ (2012a). "GWR 1906–1934 Loco Livery". GWR Modelling. Retrieved 4 October 2014.
  17. ^ Elliott, Russ (2012b). "GWR 1934–1942 Loco Livery". GWR Modelling. Retrieved 4 October 2014.
  18. ^ Elliott, Russ (2012c). "GWR 1906–1934 Loco Livery". GWR Modelling. Retrieved 4 October 2014.
  19. ^ Elliott, Russ (2012d). "BR(W) Steam Loco Livery 1948–64". GWR Modelling. Retrieved 4 October 2014.
  20. ^ "Exceptional Naval and Polar Awards". DNW. December 2007. Retrieved 2 October 2014.
  21. ^ Faulkner, John. "Class 57XX". Hornby Railways Collector Guide. Retrieved 23 June 2014.
  22. ^ Ferris, Tom (1995). Severn Valley Locomotives as they were. Leicester, England: Midland Publishing. ISBN 1-85780-030-3. OCLC 33405136.
  23. ^ "GWR 0-6-0PT 5786 (L.92)". South Devon Railway. Retrieved 21 September 2014.
  24. ^ "GWR 57XX Class 0-6-0PT No. 7715 (L.99)". Buckinghamshire Railway Centre. Retrieved 22 September 2014.
  25. ^ "GWR Pannier 7752 (LT No. L94)". Vintage Trains. Retrieved 22 September 2014.
  26. ^ "GWR Pannier 9600". Vintage Trains. Retrieved 22 September 2014.
  27. ^ "GWR Pannier 7760". Vintage Trains. Retrieved 22 September 2014.
  28. ^ "GWR Hall 4900 Class, Pitchford Hall No. 4953". Epping Ongar Railway. Retrieved 23 August 2014.
  29. ^ "GWR 5700/8750 Pannier tank O Gauge Model Loco kit". Just Like The Real Thing. Retrieved 12 July 2014.
  30. ^ Harris, Michael. Locomotives Illustrated no. 39 GWR pannier tanks post 1923.
  31. ^ Heavyside, Tom (1996). Keighley & Worth Valley Locomotives as they were. Leicester, UK: Midland Publishing. ISBN 1-85780-050-8.
  32. ^ Herring, Peter (2000). Classic British Steam Locomotives (1 ed.). Leicester, UK: Abbeydale Press. ISBN 1-86147-057-6. OCLC 44485041.
  33. ^ Holcroft, Harold (1957). An Outline of Great Western Locomotive Practice 1837–1947 (1 ed.). London: Locomotive Publishing Company. OCLC 13299691.
  34. ^ Jones, Robin (2014). Great Western Railway Pannier Tanks (1 ed.). Marlborough, UK: The Crowood Press. ISBN 978-1-84797-653-6. OCLC 859298680.
  35. ^ le Fleming, H.M. (April 1958). Part 5: Six-coupled Tank Engines. The Locomotives of the Great Western Railway. Oxford: RCTS. ISBN 0-901115-35-5. OCLC 500544510.
  36. ^ "No. 35053". The London Gazette (invalid |supp= (help)). 11 February 1941.
  37. ^ "Meet the Locomotives – Non-operational steam locomotives in storage or in course of restoration". Severn Valley Railway. Retrieved 21 September 2014.
  38. ^ Nock, O.S. (1972). The Great Western Railway in the 20th Century (2 ed.). London: Ian Allan. ISBN 978-0-7110-0227-2. OCLC 251662074.
  39. ^ Officer, Lawrence H.; Williamson, Samuel H. (2012). "Explaining the Measures of Worth". MeasuringWorth. Retrieved 22 August 2014.
  40. ^ Officer, Lawrence H.; Williamson, Samuel H. (2014). "Five Ways to Compute the Relative Value of a UK Pound Amount, 1270 to Present". MeasuringWorth. Retrieved 22 August 2014.
  41. ^ "The Pontypool & Blaenavon Locomotive Group – 9629's History". 31 August 2012. Retrieved 6 July 2014.
  42. ^ Russell, J. H. (1975). A pictorial Record of Great Western Engines.
  43. ^ Semmens, Peter (1985). History of the Great Western Railway 1. Consolidation, 1923–29. London: Allen & Unwin. ISBN 978-0-04-385104-3. OCLC 59803211.
  44. ^ "Vintage Trains – About Us – The Trust". 2 July 2013. Retrieved 26 July 2014.
  45. ^ Whalley, Tom (2013a). "Graham Farish by Bachmann Past and Present Models Rev. 11" (PDF). World of Model Railways. Bachmann Europe plc. GFPTW2013. Retrieved 23 June 2014.
  46. ^ Whalley, Tom (2013b). "Bachmann Branchline Past and Present Models Rev. 5" (PDF). World of Model Railways. Bachmann Europe plc. BLPTW2013. Retrieved 23 June 2014.
  47. ^ "What's on at NRM Shildon – The Railway Children". National Railway Museum. Retrieved 25 September 2014.
  48. ^ Whitehurst, Brian (1973). Great Western Engines, Names, Numbers, Types and Classes (1940 to Preservation). Oxford, UK: Oxford Publishing Company. ISBN 978-0-9028-8821-0. OCLC 815661.

Sources

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Parking a useful ref here...

  • Stewart-David, David (2 July 2014). "The role of railways in the First World War". The Railway Magazine. 160 (1, 360). Horncastle, Lincs, UK: Mortons Media. ISSN 0033-8923.

And back to the 5700 specific ones.

  • Whitehurst, Brian (1973). Great Western Engines, Names, Numbers, Types and Classes (1940 to Preservation). Oxford, UK: Oxford Publishing Company. ISBN 978-0-9028-8821-0. OCLC 815661.

Problematic edits

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Summary of edits (by article) of Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of 86.173.93.252 are shown in the second table below. About 110 different articles were affected, although many edits were reverted quite promptly (regular spotters have included Andy Dingley, Redrose64, and HJ Mitchell). Most edits have been on British railway articles (including fictional railways), with some related articles, and a few excursions into history, the world of "Top Gear", and cycling...

The first table shows known data on the different IP addresses, with dates of edits and some notes (and, very occasionally, example edit summaries). Looking at the revision histories of some of the different articles, IP addresses, types of edits etc, I think there are a further five IP addresses following a similar pattern, affecting a further ~40 articles.

Edit characteristics

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  • Never supported by references
  • Usually edits to numbers (often loco numbers), dates etc (very rarely edits running text)
  • Section blanking, and removing whole paragraphs, or rows of tables (for example to remove a locomotive)
  • Often repeated after reversion a week or two later
  • Some re-ordering of sections
  • Usually at the weekend (with occasional exceptions, including one static address used mid-week on a number of occasions)
  • Usually late afternoon and evening (15.00 – 22.00) but with occasional forays into morning and early evening
  • Some useful wikilinking, but sometimes overdone

Our mystery editor

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At first I thought they were just an irritating vandal (and seemed chauvinistic, removing locos that are not in the UK etc), but I now think they are all good faith edits, but that the editor has some rubbish sources, and also does not appreciate how to put them into context (for example, a book might say there is only one preserved ROD 2-8-0 in the UK, and so the editor removes mention of other preserved RODs. Or even a book called "Preserved Locos in the UK" might say that there is only one preserved ROD 2-8-0, with the source ignoring the rest of the world). Some of the edits on small heritage railways (Mangapps and Colne Valley) seem ok (but they are hard to check).

You have to admire their persistence (coming back week after week), and I think they are genuinely trying to improve things. It's a shame they don't engage on talk pages – the only connection has been to remove a warning notice once on an address talk page (at least they seem to look at them...), with some edit comments showing a lot of frustration. They usually spend 30 – 60 mins on a session, and often have more than one session over the weekend.

IP address details

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Most addresses are dynamic, so presumably get dropped when a machine is re-booted or a router is reset. They all seem to be handled by the same BT host which looks like it covers the East Anglia area (I guess that whenever you check one of these address the location will already have changed since the original edits were made). However, three are static (Ely, Bury, and Huntingdon – all very near to each other), and the other fixed address is in Morecambe (but edits from this address have been made during the week). I'm guessing the guest editor is often working away from home during the week. They do appear to have come back most weekends since the end of August right up to 1st Jan 2015. It is possible that the number of different dynamic IP addresses is not a deliberate ploy – someone who is working away from home during the week might turn off everything (including a router) and switch everything back on when returning home on a Friday.

Add column "number of edits"? Also mark an IP address if all edits reverted/checked?

IP address Type Location Dates Notes
31.54.33.11 static (BT) Bury, Cambs 14 Sep 2014 (Sunday)
19 Sep 2014 (Friday)
20 Sep 2014 (Saturday)
26 Sep 2014 (Friday) 		11 articles.
Not on sock puppet list.
31.54.161.88 static (BT) Huntingdon, Cambs 14 Dec 2014 (Sunday)
20 Dec 2014 (Saturday)
21 Dec 2014 (Sunday) 		14 articles.
"i am just correcting the information", etc

Information iconStop icon

31.54.67.179 static (BT) Ely, Cambs 02 Nov 2014 (Sunday) 9 articles.Stop icon
86.146.115.129 dynamic (BT) Ipswich, Suffolk 06 Sep 2014 (Saturday)
07 Sep 2014 (Sunday) 		14 articles.
Not on sock puppet list. Some section blanking, no comments, some familiar pages, others new (but still railway related).Information icon
86.149.189.107 dynamic (BT) Harleston, Norfolk 07 Nov 2014 (Friday)
14 Nov 2014 (Friday)
15 Nov 2014 (Sunday) 		"i have irased some fake information", etc
86.136.209.116 dynamic (BT) King's Lynn, Norfolk 11 Nov 2014 (Tuesday) -
86.149.185.2 dynamic (BT) Somersham, Cambs 28 Sep 2014 (Sunday) -
86.151.21.246 dynamic (BT) Harleston, Norfolk 31 Aug 2014 (Saturday)
02 Sep 2014 (Tuesday) 		Not on sock puppet list. A gentle start, but some topics followed later...
86.152.49.46 dynamic (BT) Bury, Cambs 20 Oct 2014 (Monday) -
86.157.165.146 dynamic (BT) Cambridge, Cambs 25 Oct 2014 (Saturday)
26 Oct 2014 (Sunday) 		-
86.157.166.41 dynamic (BT) Bury St Edmunds, Norfolk 28 Nov 2014 (Friday)
29 Nov 2014 (Saturday)
06 Dec 2014 (Saturday)
07 Dec 2014 (Sunday) 		-
86.167.86.77 dynamic (BT) Aylsham, Norfolk 12 Oct 2014 (Sunday) 6 articles.
Not on sock puppet list.
86.167.160.35 dynamic (BT) Grimbsy, NE Lincolnshire 23 Nov 2014 (Sunday) "just accsept what i have changed", etc
86.167.86.144 dynamic (BT) Bury, Cambs 10 Oct 2014 (Friday)
11 Oct 2014 (Saturday) 		-
86.169.192.37 dynamic (BT) Peterborough 04 Nov 2014 (Tuesday) -
86.171.49.165 dynamic (BT) Boston, Lincolnshire 10 Dec 2014 (Wednesday) -
86.173.93.252 dynamic (BT) Sutton, Cambridgeshire 18 Oct 2014 (Saturday)
19 Oct 2014 (Sunday)
24 Oct 2014 (Monday) 		-
94.185.135.206 static (MDNX) Morecambe, Lancashire 08 Sep 2014 (Monday)
19 Sep 2014 (Friday)
02 Oct 2014 (Thursday)
16 Oct 2014 (Thursday
10 Nov 2014 (Monday)
18 Nov 2014 (Tuesday)
16 Dec 2014 (Tuesday) 		Not on sock puppet list. Some familiar topics, section blanking, smaller deletions. Has had some warnings from Andy, and then moved on to other railway articles and also cycling...
109.149.175.68 dynamic (BT) Peterborough 19 Dec 2014 (Friday)
23 Dec 2014 (Tuesday) 		-
109.153.177.97 dynamic (BT) King's Lynn, Norfolk 1 Jan 2015 (Thursday) "accsept it"
109.157.103.183 dynamic (BT) Linton, Cambridgeshire 21 Nov 2014 (Friday)
22 Nov 2014 (Saturday) 		"im just correcting information please dont erase the change i have made", etc

Another one to check 81.157.20.92 (BT, dynamic, East Anglia, usual targets) 28 August 2014 (Monday)

Also 86.137.222.99 – 1 edit only (BT, dynamic, East Anglia, usual targets) 27 September 2014 (Saturday)

Also 86.143.46.87 (blocked) – numerous edits (BT, dynamic, East Anglia, usual targets including some not on list) 3 October 2014 (Friday), 28 December 2014 (Saturday), 31 December 2014 (Wednesday)

Also 86.139.192.152 – numerous edits (BT, dynamic, East Anglia, usual targets including some not on list) 4 October 2014 (Saturday)

Also 86.181.124.179 – numerous edits (BT, dynamic, East Anglia, usual targets including some not on list) 27, 29, 31 October 2014 (Monday Wednesday Friday) – James May and Class 33 already marked

Also 86.152.50.226 – a number of edits – 14 October 2014 (Tuesday)

Much earlier (July) and seemingly ok 86.169.42.185

Affected articles

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~50/~150 have a colour status (early Thursday 8 Jan)

  • If all are reverted I've mark the article "(clear)"
  • If some edits are current (that is, still in the article) then:
    • (green) if checked and seems to be ok
    • (orange) – not yet checked – some of these on well watched pages may well be ok, I just can't tell – also on some frequently edited pages the original edits may have disappeared in later (non-revert) edits
    • (red) – error that needs fixing
  - 86.151.21.246
  - ‎86.146.115.129 (rvtd)

‎* Castle Hedingham – 86.151.21.246 – current, ok wikilink (green) 

  - 86.151.21.246
  - ‎86.146.115.129 (rvtd)

  - 86.149.189.107, 86.152.49.46, 86.157.166.41 All reverted
  - ‎86.146.115.129 (curr – clumsy)
  - 86.167.86.77
  - (Double-check other Non-SPL AAA 94.185.135.206)

  - ‎86.146.115.129 (rvtd)

 - 86.149.189.107

  - 31.54.161.88 (rvtd)

  - 109.157.103.183

  - 31.54.161.88,
  - 31.54.67.179 (curr – look),

  -  31.54.67.179 (curr – NB),
  - 31.54.161.88

  - 31.54.161.88 (rvtd),
  - Non-SPL AAA 94.185.135.206 – 3 edits current (orange)

  - 31.54.161.88 (curr)

  - 86.167.160.35
  - 86.146.115.129 (curr ok wl)

  -  31.54.67.179 (curr),
  - 86.149.189.107, 86.167.160.35, 109.157.103.183, 31.54.161.88

  - 86.149.189.107,
  - 109.149.175.68,
  - 31.54.161.88 (rvtd),
  - 31.54.67.179 (curr),

  - 86.167.160.35,
    31.54.67.179

Pre-cursors

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There are some precursors: 86.163.28.102 – sensible edits on List of preserved Hunslet Austerity 0-6-0ST locomotives and Hunslett company (on 2nd Aug 2014 (Saturday) and using a dynamic IP from BT in East Anglia region); List of preserved Hunslet Austerity 0-6-0ST locomotives 86.163.28.127 and 86.157.78.224

Possible actions

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  • I'll quietly go through checking any edits that are still current, but anyone is free to chip in... Feel free to update the table above to show progress.
  • Oddly enough, I'd remove the protection on LMS Princess Coronation Class 6233 Duchess of Sutherland. It, along with a number of pages, are regulars for our mystery editor, and can act as canaries in the mine shaft. If they move to a different area, then they may do (unnoticed) damage elsewhere...
  • Blocking dynamic IP addresses won't achieve much (and blocking ranges would wipe out access for a lot of BT users in East Anglia... Although I'm on Sky so I don't mind too much :)
  • Maybe worth putting a personalised notice on each of the fixed IP addresses? Only way we stand a chance of making contact.
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