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   start draft #1  (Last updated on October 2, 2024)

== History ==

Jordan Schmidt is a Country music songwriter. While songwriting continues to be his main priority, he also takes part in music production, plays guitar, and contributes as a backup singer on recordings. Prior to moving to Nashville, he maintained his own studio in Minneapolis and worked as a audio and mixing engineer. After he moved to TN in 2015, he started collaborating with band members of Florida Georgia Line. They suggested he focus all his energy on songwriting. After gaining recognition as a songwriter in Nashville, TN, a music fan created the Jordan Schmidt main space article in 2016.

At first, Jordan Schmidt's main space article contained all relevant details and informational tables on the main page without looking cluttered. There were preliminary discussions (see below ↓) about moving the discography section to a separate page. The decision was made to keep it on the main Jordan Schmidt page due to the lack of substantial content in the other sections.

Support split - The list of works by Jordan Schmidt takes up close to one half of the page, and should be split to a new article entitled Jordan Schmidt production discography. Thoughts? --Jax 0677 (talk) 17:31, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose No need to split as it would pretty much just leave a stub article for the artist. When that is expanded a split would be warranted. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 01:49, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

My contributions

In early 2024, I began editing the article about Jordan Schmidt. Even though he is just thirty-five, Jordan Schmidt has already written over four hundred songs. I expanded Jordan Schmidt's main page by using established patterns from Jason Aldean and Keith Urban's main space articles.

When I noticed his current main page discography section had reached the equivalent of twenty PDF pages, I moved it to a separate discography page in early 2024. Once again, I planned to use boilerplates from the Aldean and Urban discography pages to pattern the Schmidt discography page.

Besides revising existing pages and add new pages (see Schmidt family of pages), I focused on optimizing the new discography page. I decided to narrow the listing criteria in order to streamline the discography page. I only included songs that have charted well in the US, had millions of Spotify hits, RIAA statistics, etc etc. Then, while continuing the work on the discography page, the curtain came down.

COI declared

The discography page was 70% complete when an Australian editor declared I had a COI problem. Her observation was based on my friendship with Jordan Schmidt's father. She decided I could no longer work on any of the pages because I did not have a "Neutral point of view," and my style of writing was "outrageuously promotional/peacock (her spelling). After two months of working on the pages, I had to stop in July 2024.

She made substantial revisions to the main article, discography, and awards pages. One of her edits involved removing Schmidt's "List of awards and nominations received by Jordan Schmidt." She unlinked the awards page from his main page because the editor labeled the page as:

This is a list of awards and nominations; the repetition of certifications (which are already included prominently in the main article) here is puffery.

Of course, that was not true. Much of the text on the main page was removed by the same editor including references to Schmidt's past professions as a sound engineer - again, citing "puffery."

Jordan Schmidt Wikipedia pages

The Jordan Schmidt Wikipedia family consists of these pages:
WIKIPEDIA

Jordan Schmidt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Schmidt
Jordan Schmidt discography https://en.wikipedia.ord/wiki/ Jordan_Schmidt_discography
List of awards and nominations received by Jordan Schmidt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Jordan_Schmidt
Category:Songs written by Jordan Schmidt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Songs_written_by_Jordan_Schmidt
Category:Albums produced by Jordan Schmidt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Albums_produced_by_Jordan_Schmidt
Jordan Schmidt discography https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jordan_Schmidt_discography&redirect=no

WIKIDATA

Jordan Schmidt https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16466340
Jordan Schmidt discography https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q127781400
Jordan Schmidt production discography https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q25060166
List of awards and nominations received by Jordan Schmidt https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q126453075
Category:Songs written by Jordan Schmidt https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q30861091
Category:Albums produced by Jordan Schmidt https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q116215061

COMMONS

Category:Jordan Schmidt                                                       https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Jordan_Schmidt

Discography page

At present, the discography page is divided into five separate sections. Further explanation is needed to clarify the contents of each section. It should be noted, collaborative efforts are now the norm in songwriting and production, Thus the tables increase in size when listing credits.

Jordan Schmidt Discography Page
Years Header Title Type of Work Details
2015 - 2024 Albums Prod & Wrote Each item needs rank according to various US charts
2003 - 2024 Jamestown Story Audio & Mixed Can be deleted
2006 - 2015 Alternative Audio & Mixed Can be deleted
2020 – 2016 Songs Prod & Wrote Each item needs rank according to various US charts
2024 – 2021 Songs Prod & Wrote Need complete make over & ea item needs rank according to various US charts

Bottom line

The discography page to this date has remained unfinished.

You inquired about the Schmidt discography page, citing it for deletion, because you thought the listing was comprised of items Jordan Schmidt had only performed sound engineering. As you can see from the paragraphs above, this is not case. You set a October deadline to answer.

You then created a new page redirecting all Jordan Schmidt discography requests back to the main article discography section. This section on the main page displays only RIAA links. These RIAA links were eventually going to be incorporated into individual song items listed on the discography page. As it stands now, does not make much sense.

In my opinion, you should restore the Schmidt discography page, relink it to the main page. If you still have heartburn because of the table listings of "Jamestown Story" (Incidentally Jordan Schmidt's brother Dane) and his "Alternative" music contributions - delete them. Another alternative is - you can give me permission and I will delete the two questionable tables

If you still object to rolling-back your changes, could we place this for a vote by the Wikipedia community. Please let me know what you think.

Michael Jannetta (talk) 16:45, 2 October 2024 (UTC)


   end draft #1  (Last updated on October 2, 2024)