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What is this place?

This is a gathering place for WikiDragons and WikiOtters. WikiDragons are good at large edits, and WikiOtters are good at helping other editors on odd jobs. These two WikiFauna are so complementary we couldn't resist the opportunity to see what good could come from their collaborations.

This is also a sort of meeting place, where we share what's going on, what our latest projects are, etc.

Census

Sign your name below to let the community know you exist! We try to keep tabs on how many there are currently. Please let us know you're still an active WikiDragon or WikiOtter by participating in the annual census.

Current

WikiDragons

1. Roll Call! Tyrone Madera (talk) 04:35, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
2. Pandacat21 07:42, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
3. Askarion ✉ ✎ 20:43, 17 July 2022 (UTC) – A new Dragon with a new cave, hoard, and firepower.
4. GregJackP Boomer! 03:13, 30 August 2022 (UTC); not as active as before, and less inclined to put up with WikiIdiots...
5. "臥虎藏龍" Andrew🐉(talk) 08:43, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
6. GeogSage (talk) 07:06, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
7. OtharLuin (talk) 16:19, 23 November 2022 (UTC+01:00)
8. The Wordsmith^{Talk to me} 17:50, 24 February 2023 (UTC) - I've woken up from my slumber.
9. Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 19:15, 27 April 2023 (UTC) - had to be done at some point...
10. --Licks-rocks (talk) 21:16, 6 May 2023 (UTC) I can usually be found laying about in my cave, but I occasionally venture outside to snack on some unlucky bandits that enter the nearby shaded woods
11. --BeLucky (talk) - As Mattdaviesfsic (talk) said: "had to be done at some point..."
12. Rublamb (talk) 21:00, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
13. --saintstephen (talk)
14. Walter Tau (talk) 14:52, 10 October 2024 (UTC) - a wiki-hobbit metamorphosing into a wiki-dragon. Do I get a pet otter now?

WikiOtters

1. Leomk0403 (Don't shout here, Shout here!) 04:36, 13 December 2021 (UTC). It's easy to find me cleaning this (once clean) very murky river and biology-related articles on Special:NewPages (although I am not, and want to be an NPP)
2. Allaoii ^talk 17:35, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Previous: May 2021 through 2014

A IUCN report was reportedly being made.

On July 2, 2021, there were at least 247 WikiDragons in the wild. 19 new WikiDragons were tagged. 1 death among the new generation was discovered. Tags have been improved as a false WikiDragon was in the census. The population growth of this species has gotten slower recently.

On July 2, 2021, there were an estimated 8 WikiOtters in the wild. 11 new specimens were tagged; 0 previous specimens were tagged. The species is at risk of being Extinct soon as WikiOtters become dead or only semi-active. WikiOtters with the traits of a WikiGoose are increasingly common, a threat to the species though the population has increased from the last census.

WikiDragons

1. ☠ JAGUAR ☠ 20:04, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
2. Bob the WikipediaN ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:05, 4 June 2014 (UTC) - Sorry, been nearly dormant on Wikipedia the past year!
3. --AldNon^Ucallin?☎ 15:26, 15 December 2014 (UTC) Just us? Just 3 of us? I see, Wikiknight... I see... I will burn them to death next year.
4. Davodd (talk) 23:19, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
5. Parcly Taxel 09:16, 18 April 2015 (UTC) Mostly on articles in WikiProject Elements, e.g. fluorine.
6. GregJackP Boomer! 13:50, 18 April 2015 (UTC) - no longer retired / hibernating.
7. The Mad Hatter (talk) 17:17, 18 May 2015 (UTC) - Always to breath fire upon and making great edits! :P
8. AllenHaggaiMan (talk) 03:18, 15 June 2015 (UTC) - Firing...
9. TienShenLong ·@·02:53, 26 September 2015 (UTC) "There and back again..." 
10. Liam 18:38, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
11. I enjoy sandwiches (talk) 23:03, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
12. Melilac(talk) 0:54, 28 August 2016 (UTC) - I guess that is what I am. & matches of 6, though no battle scars and for some years already WikiKnights tend to offer awards and avoid fight....
13. ♠Vami_IV†♠ 22:08, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
14. -- Avi (talk) 23:55, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
15. me. E.3 (talk) 14:39, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
16. PNSMurthy (talk) 23:29, 9 August 2020 (UTC) Never look me in the eye!
17. Jason1357902 (talk) 13:33, 12 August 2020 (UTC) I am a WikiPlatypus, but I am part WikiDragon.
18. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:32, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
19. user:Yetanothermortal 11:53 December 10 2020
20. Tyrone Madera (talk) 02:49, 21 March 2021 (UTC) A new Dragon is born.
21. WalterTau talk Metamorphosis. Do I get a pet otter now?

WikiOtters

1. Kitty 56 (talk) Am I the only one out there?!
2. The name BluJay is taken(talk) Be awesome, be a WikiOtter! Join the club.
3. Happy Squirrel(talk)I am a very young WikiOtter
4. Regushee...yep...I'm definitely an otter...
5. PitbullAJWarriorsSurvivorsLover (talk) 16:56, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
6. Creeper Ninja (talk) 20:13, 19 May 2017 (UTC) Me em WikiOtterrr
7. ColeCole714:Hi!I’m an otter.
8. User:A Fine Bassoonist: Hello!
9. PrismTheDragon (talk) 17:50, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
10. Prairie Astronomer ^Talk
11. Liamyangll (talk) 04:37, 9 April 2021 (UTC) Let the WikiOtters never die out!
12. Leomk0403 (Don't shout here, Shout here!) 07:27, 26 January 2022 (UTC) What's extinction? Says the wikiotter who edited a CR article.

Previous: 2013

On 31 December 2013, there were an estimated 240 WikiDragons in the wild. A total of 14 WikiDragons were tagged, including 10 new WikiDragons and 1 previously thought dead. As such, the previous population is now believed to have been around 192 due to the knowledge that the WikiDragon may become dormant for as long as 32 months before becoming active once again. Population has grown 25%. The species can no longer be considered Critically Endangered and has been reevaluated by the Department of Fun as Endangered using the IUCN 3.1 guidelines.

On 31 December 2013, there were an estimated 3 WikiOtters in the wild. 3 new specimens were tagged; 0 previous specimens were tagged. It has thus been confirmed that the WikiOtter is not in fact extinct. The species can no longer be considered Possibly Extinct and has been reevaluated by the Department of Fun as Critically Endangered using the IUCN 3.1 guidelines.

WikiDragons

1. Brambleberry, RiverClan Medicine Cat ^{Visit ♠ Follow} (Another one of these? Heck, it seems like that six months goes by fast.)
2. GregJackP (talk)GregJackP Boomer! Back from exile. Retired. Back from WikiBreak, let's go burn some WikiKnights! GregJackP Boomer! 06:41, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
3. Lenny Kaufman ^talk 16:07, 13 January 2013 (UTC) Clever page.
4. Qwh (talk) 00:55, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
5. Aunva6 (talk) 19:20, 14 February 2013 (UTC) -i'm relatively new, but editing lots when I have time.
6. Lee Tru.I am one of those "old" vandal hunting kind of dragon.
7. Bob the WikipediaN ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:23, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
8. Ald™ ¬_¬™ 12:19, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
9. Stalwart111 02:43, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
10. DanHobley (talk) 06:38, 27 July 2013 (UTC) (Gently toasting earth and planetary science articles. Mainly in hibernation.)
11. – Maky ^« talk » 13:05, 27 July 2013 (UTC) – I primarily write about lemurs/primates, but also anything else that catches my interests.
12. BARONSAMEDI (talk)
13. llywrch (talk) 21:18, 11 September 2013 (UTC) -- I'm not dead yet.
14. Simon Caulton (talk) 12:04, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

WikiOtters

1. Thegreatgrabber (talk)^contribs 00:00, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
2. Kevjonesin (talk) :  } 22:08, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
3. LT910001 LT910001 (talk) 01:12, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Previous: 2012

On 31 December 2012, there were an estimated 120 WikiDragons in the wild. A total of 9 WikiDragons were tagged, including 4 new WikiDragons and 1 previously thought dead. Population incline is 20%. The species has been reevaluated by the Department of Fun as Critically Endangered using the IUCN 3.1 guidelines.

On 31 December 2012, there were an estimated 2 WikiOtters in the wild. 2 specimens were tagged, including one previously thought to be dead, suggesting a period of hibernation during the winter months. It has thus been confirmed that the WikiOtter is not in fact extinct. The species has been reevaluated by the Department of Fun as Critically Endangered using the IUCN 3.1 guidelines.

WikiDragons

1. Penyulap _talk 18:23, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
2. Bob the WikipediaN ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:33, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
3. – VisionHolder « talk » 17:54, 21 February 2012 (UTC) — Note: I was here last time, but missed the census.
4. Brambleberry, RiverClan Medicine Cat ^{Visit ♠ Follow} (Another one of these? Heck, it seems like that six months goes by fast.)
5. Ald™ ¬_¬™ 17:18, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
6. TorstenGuise (talk) 16:43, 20 April 2012 (UTC) — Note: I'm Back!
7. Marketdiamond (talk) 13:36, 31 August 2012 (UTC) Here I am.
8. Seonookim (talk) 10:07, 2 January 2012 (here in Korea) P.S. Sadly, currently hibernating in Sandbox. I should be awake again.......
9. ♠♥♣Shaun9876♠♥♣ ^{Talk Email}Hello :D

WikiOtters

1. Sloggerbum (talk) 04:01, 25 March 2012 (UTC) (guess I'm not dead yet or whatever)
2. Thepoodlechef (talk) 16:22, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Previous: July through December, 2011

On 31 December 2011, there were an estimated 96 WikiDragons in the wild. A total of 6 WikiDragons were tagged, including 3 new WikiDragons. 4 WikiDragons expected to exit dormancy cycles failed to do so, suggesting perhaps a fatally warm winter for brumating WikiDragons in the northern hemisphere. Population decline is 7%. The species has been reevaluated by the Department of Fun as Critically Endangered using the IUCN 3.1 guidelines.

31 December 2011, there was an estimated 1 WikiOtter in the wild. No specimens were tagged, and due to the short lifespan, the WikiOtter may be extinct. The species has been reevaluated by the Department of Fun as Critically Endangered (Possibly Extinct) using the IUCN 3.1 guidelines.

WikiDragons

1. Bob the WikipediaN ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:11, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
2. The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 04:12, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
3. Ald™ ¬_¬™ 14:07, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
4. Brambleberry, RiverClan Medicine Cat ^{Visit ♠ Follow} 23:04, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
5. --MahaPanta (talk) 07:33, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
6. --8.25.226.66 (talk) 16:47, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

WikiOtters

Previous

January through June, 2011

On 30 June 2011, there were an estimated 103 WikiDragons in the wild. A total of 11 WikiDragons were tagged, including 7 new WikiDragons. Theories of hibernation or brumation appear to have been correct. Population increase is 71%. The species has been reevaluated by the Department of Fun as Critically Endangered using the IUCN 3.1 guidelines. On 30 June 2011, there were an estimated 5 WikiOtters in the wild. The only tagged specimen was different from the one found last season. Short lifespan of WikiOtters has been confirmed; hibernation does not appear to come into play in this species. The species has been reevaluated by the Department of Fun as Critically Endangered using the IUCN 3.1 guidelines. WikiDragons Bob the Wikipedian (talk • contribs) 20:20, 9 January 2011 (UTC) MahaPanta (talk) 23:55, 9 January 2011 (UTC) – VisionHolder « talk » 20:51, 9 January 2011 (UTC) OhanaUnitedTalk page 07:51, 4 February 2011 (UTC) Resolute 15:48, 4 February 2011 (UTC) Obsidi♠nSoul 14:08, 27 March 2011 (UTC) Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 19:03, 8 April 2011 (UTC) Ald™ ¬_¬™ 11:03, 23 April 2011 (UTC) FREYWA 12:10, 13 May 2011 (UTC) Pumagirl7 Leave a message 22:44, 27 May 2011 (UTC) ResMar 03:17, 30 June 2011 (UTC) WikiOtters Sloggerbum (talk) 08:43, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

July through December, 2010

On 31 December 2010, there were an estimated 73 WikiDragons in the wild. A total of 4 WikiDragons were tagged. No new WikDragons were identified. This may indicate a seasonal lifestyle or may be the result of a reduction in offspring. One WikiDragon missed in the previous tagging was identified, upping the estimation from the early half of the year to 146 WikiDragons. Hibernation may account for this. Assuming hibernation is common, an additional 8 WikiDragons can be added to the expected 65, bringing the current population estimate to 73. This is a drastic reduction from the previous census. The species has been reevaluated by the Department of Fun as Critically Endangered using the IUCN 3.1 guidelines. On 31 December 2010, there were an estimated 5 WikiOtters in the wild. The results are only mildly surprising, however, since they match the results from this season last year. WikiOtters are likely less active during the second half of the year, possibly due to breeding season occurring during the spring and early summer. No previously known specimens were relocated this time, however, a single new specimen was tagged. The disappearance of all tagged specimens may be the result of a short lifespan. The species has been reevaluated by the Department of Fun as Critically Endangered using the IUCN 3.1 guidelines. WikiDragons Bob the Wikipedian (talk • contribs) 02:01, 8 July 2010 (UTC) MahaPanta (talk) 02:07, 8 July 2010 (UTC) – VisionHolder « talk » 02:13, 8 July 2010 (UTC) TorstenGuise (talk) 17:36, 19 July 2010 (UTC) I'm still around. And now I'm returning to my lair in the wilderness for another few years. -- llywrch (talk) 04:11, 15 September 2010 (UTC) WikiOtters La comadreja formerly AFriedman RESEARCH (talk) 04:54, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

January through June, 2010

On 30 June 2010, there were an estimated 130 WikiDragons and 16 WikiOtters in the wild. 16 WikiOtters were counted in the wild on 02:26, 5 March 2010 (UTC) WikiDragons Bob the Wikipedian (talk • contribs) 22:44, 9 January 2010 (UTC) MahaPanta (talk) 23:03, 10 January 2010 (UTC) Resolute 03:45, 10 January 2010 (UTC) TheGrimReaper 13:40, 10 January 2010 (UTC) TorstenGuise (talk) 14:01, 10 January 2010 (UTC) Jakkinx Talk to me! 07:05, 17 January 2010 (UTC) Yes... I'm a WikiOtter as well.-- Barkjon  21:45, 28 January 2010 (UTC) I will bless thee with my magic...--Iluxion (talk) 01:20, 21 February 2010 (UTC) – VisionHolder « talk » 02:51, 4 March 2010 (UTC) WikiOtters -- Barkjon  21:44, 28 January 2010 (UTC) — Senthryl (talk) 02:28, 24 April 2010 (UTC) --Aiyizo (talk) 02:08, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

July through December, 2009

WikiDragons --MahaPanta (talk) 18:35, 23 August 2009 (UTC) Bob the Wikipedian (talk • contribs) 04:17, 24 August 2009 (UTC) - I'm a Komodo WikiDragon, helping out mostly with WP:TOL. Jakkinx (talk) 19:08, 21 October 2009 (UTC)- Hey, I'm a bit new to Wikipedia, and I'm trying to make a character list for AdventureQuest Worlds, an online flash MMO by Artix Entertainment. You can find the details on my User Page. Ojay123 (talk) 19:41, 29 July 2009 (UTC) TorstenGuise (talk) 17:29, 23 September 2009 (UTC) The ArbiterѪ★Ѫ 00:31, 21 October 2009 (UTC) --TheGrimReaper 09:04, 13 December 2009 (UTC) According to rumor, llywrch (talk) 21:02, 22 December 2009 (UTC) WikiOtters Senthryl (talk) 15:15, 24 July 2009 (UTC) I'm new, but I'm ready to work!

January through June, 2009
112 WikiDragons were counted in the wild. A WikiOtter census was not taken. Future censuses will be done via registration and some quick math.

Current Projects

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WikiDragons' current projects

Bob the Wikipedian ^{(talk • contribs)}

		Bob's current projects
		view • talk • edit

MahaPanta ^(talk)

A Faraway Ancient Country

A Faraway Ancient Country cited on the following wikipages: Walter Halloran | Exorcism of Roland Doe | Ghost | Exorcism | Edward Hughes (exorcist) and there are probably others

From Google: "What happens when a Protestant Fundamentalist becomes a Roman Catholic? Share one woman's journey into the land of mystic and scholar, and learn Catholicism from a Bible perspective using the King James 1611 Bible. Employing humanity, humor and wit, this marriage of creative and analytical writing is also the fruition of four years of research, 80 sources, 190 Biblical passages, and the efforts of three theologians, each with a Master's Degree in Divinity. Readers experience Catholicism through songs, prayers, poetry, and descriptions of celebrations as well as face the bigotry and malice often directed at Catholics. A Faraway Ancient Country offers an intimate look at faith and challenges spiritual growth."

Billy Mays inclusion into the "Deaths" section for 2009

I think that Billy Mays should be included into the "Deaths" section for 2009, but the policy says his article has to be in at least ten languages, so I'm looking for translators.

William Darrell Mays III

I've started a new article at User:MahaPanta/William_Darrell_Mays_III where I'm working on it till I can get it moved to "article space".

File:JR Fun Big.gif

Philcha

This is what a real project looks like. --Philcha (talk) 08:48, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

TorstenGuise ^{(talk • contribs)}

Operational Status

On to check every so often. Still consumed by the job and but back for more mirth!

Major TO DO's

Boyle's law - Complete rewrite of the page as its bloody awful. Far too much conjecture and the history is just shocking!! Requires addition of a lot more actual science and replacement of the historic nonsense with referenced facts.

TheGrimReaper NS (talk · contribs)

2010

• 5 new articles minimum.
• 10 improves minimum.
• 1 featured article, good article, DYK, and ITN minimum.
• At the end of the year, all edited articles must be of at least A standard.
• I may need the help of a WikiOtter to help smooth the articles out.

--TheGrimReaper 08:13, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Barkjon (talk · contribs)

• I think that the Pirates of the Caribbean Online article should be re-written. I'll take on that task, as I actually play the game.

-- Barkjon  21:51, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Visionholder (talk · contribs)

I've been slowly working to re-write all the lemur articles, including some of the largest, most inclusive articles. Lemur is done, as well as Lemur evolutionary history and Subfossil lemur, but several other planned subpages are still on the drawing board. I also have a ton of smaller species articles to write, as well as numerous large articles about families and genera. You can follow my progress from my user page or from my topic planned list. – VisionHolder « talk » 18:52, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Obsidian Soul (talk · contribs)

See User:Obsidian Soul

Paul Bedson (talk · contribs)

I'm working on a range of articles to prevent Earth's most important archaeological site (known as Kharsag in the Barton Cylinder or the Garden of Eden in the Bible, Book of Jubilees and 2 Enoch) from being destroyed by urbanization of Kfar Qouq, near Rashaya, Lebanon. This includes archaeologists, paleo-botanists, archaeological sites nearby, museums and research bodies, ancient proto-pottery and pottery, arrowheads, megaliths, stone circles and anything showing the neolithic revolution started in the Rashaya South Basin in the Beqaa Valley. Any help to stop the destruction of this site will be assisting mankind re-discover the origins of our civilization and hopefully safeguard it's future. Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 19:30, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Freywa (talk · contribs)

CURRENT PROJECTS:

You might also want to consider Rayquaza and benzene...

1. Copyediting as part of the GOCE's drive (bi-monthly).
2. Working with WP:ELEM on improving articles to GA status.
3. General maintenance.
4. Getting the occasional a-ha in resolving a dispute.
5. Multitasking with Foldit.
6. Promoting Wikipedia through Facebook links to it.

Brambleberry of RiverClan (talk · contribs)

2012−2013 to-do list

Pages to be created

1. Storybird →
2. Infanticide in carnivores →
3. Diseases in zebras →
4. Wolves of the Beyond →
5. Survivors (novel series) →

WikiProject Animals in media

1. Expand into a major WikiProject

WikiProject Warriors

1. Night Whispers →
2. The Empty City →  Doing...

WikiProject Mythology

1. Cŵn Annwn →  Doing...
2. Cat Sìth →  Doing...
3. Ra →  Doing...

WikiProject Animals

1. Wholphin →
2. Hatchling →
3. Rabies →

WikiProject Cats

1. Felinology →
2. Norwegian Forest Cat →
3. Nebelung →
4. Cat →
5. Felix the Cat →
6. Meowth →
7. Krazy Kat →

WikiProject Dogs

1. Mixed-breed dog →
2. Australian Kelpie →
3. German Shepherd →
4. Japanese Spitz →
5. Island fox →
6. Gray wolf →
7. Dingo →
8. Dog →
9. Pound Puppies and the Legend of Big Paw →

WikiProject Philadelphia Phillies

1. Harry Kalas →
2. Phanatic →

Other

1. Feather and Bone: The Crow Chronicles →  Doing...
2. Finish the Wikiverse.  Doing...
3. Ask the people at Patriots Novels Series if we can have the title Survivors (novel series) for the Erin Hunter series.

Resident Mario (talk · contribs)

1. Military history of the Russian Empire
2. Mount Cleveland (Alaska)

Rawr :D

shaun9876 (talk · contribs)

1. Promote Realm Of The Mad God to /
2. Create Page Penguins And Pitfalls
3. Turn the World into a fiery Hellhole.  Doing...

FunkMonk (talk · contribs)

• I'm trying to get most extinct Mascarene birds up to FA or GA status. The best known ones are done, a lot of obscure ones are waiting. I really hate keeping citations consistent, so I'm happy when WikiOtters drop by. FunkMonk (talk) 13:07, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Tyrone Madera (talk · contribs)

• Trying to get Cueva de las Manos to FA as my first FAC! Tyrone Madera (talk) 18:45, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

WikiOtters' current projects

Sloggerbum (talk · contribs)

• Got bored and was poking around in the cave so to speak, so I worked on the Pirates of the Caribbean Online page that Barkjon (talk · contribs) was working on earlier, added lots of subheadings and "see also" section. Any more dragons adding oodles of text who'd like someone to handle superficial cleanup, send it my way, I like stuff like that. Sloggerbum (talk) 02:58, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Any bugs to throw at me?Leomk0403 (Don't shout here, Shout here!) 07:30, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

• also, how on earth am I the only one? I know Ten Pound Hammer is out there somewhere, but I'm starting to feel like I'm stuck in that last unicorn movie. Not a good thing - I still have irl nightmares about that big red ox thing. Sloggerbum (talk) 19:35, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

• Ha, now I want to watch that again...it's been a couple decades! Bob the WikipediaN ^{(talk • contribs)} 04:52, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Leomk0403 (talk · contribs)

• Trying to make all quality articles on Cosmophasis species, but soon (almost) gave up due to procrastination. Anyone willing to help? Leomk0403 (Don't shout here, Shout here!) 04:38, 13 December 2021 (UTC)