User:JamesMLane/Stephenson AfD tally
This is my tally of the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andy Stephenson, made for purposes of the discussion at the deletion review. The closing admin did not opine that there was a consensus for deletion.
There were several comments from anonymous users or named users challenged as single purpose accounts. I've copied those comments and their attendant discussions at the end.
Among Wikipedians not so challenged, 27 favored deletion, 2 favored merger, and 22 favored keeping the article. Treating "merger" as equivalent to deletion, the result was 29 for deletion (57%) and 22 opposed (43%).
I'm giving the specific breakdown here so that others can check it. The page was, obviously, a mess, and I think it more likely than not that I made at least one clerical error in compiling this summary.
DELETE -- 27
Tbeatty, Aaron, Morton devonshire, Crockspot, MONGO, Em-jay-es, Brimba, Dman727, CWC(talk), Khukri, Nuclear, Zer0, GabrielF, NawlinWiki, Rosicrucian, Deli nk, Wildthing61476, Ed (Edgar181), Resolute, wwwwolf (barks/growls), Sandstein, JungleCat talk/contrib, Vegaswikian, Piuro, Strothra, Torturous Devastating Cudgel, Tawker
MERGE -- 2
KEEP -- 22
Jayron32, NBGPWS, ChildOfTheMoon83, Therin83 (conditional), Catchpole, Serpent-A, Ck4829, BenBurch, XP, Jinxmchue, PCock, Valoem talk, Edison, BryanG(talk), TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs), Gamaliel, VoiceOfReason, AnonEMouse (squeak), Ruthfulbarbarity, JamesMLane t c, 11kowrom, Derex
ANONYMOUS OR QUESTIONED
- Delete per nom. Karag 07:38, 16 October 2006 (UTC)— Possible single purpose account: Karag (talk • contribs) has made few or no other contributions outside this topic.
- StrongKeep Andy's life was notable and his death (refactored personal attack) Ken Burch 00:35, 16 October 2006.— Possible single purpose account: Ken Burch (talk • contribs) has made few or no other contributions outside this topic.
- CommentActually, user made a contribution to a different article before this AFD was opened, so incorrect to claim it could be a "single purpose account"Edison 20:35, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
- Strong keep — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackbird71 (talk • contribs) — Possible single purpose account: Blackbird71 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other contributions outside this topic.
- StrongKeep Andy Stephenson's case was an online cause celebre of considerable note mainly because he was targetted and smeared by right wing extremists as he lay dying in hospital. To allow these same degenerates to now delete the memory of his death would be a tragedy. - alastair thomspon (co-editor http://scoop.co.nz) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.96.48 (talk • contribs) — Possible single purpose account: 203.97.96.48 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other contributions outside this topic.
- StrongKeep Andy Stephenson was a huge help to prove election vote tampering by the Black boxes. ([User: Erin Blair]]) 2:14 PM, October 16, 2006. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.204.188.208 (talk • contribs) — Possible single purpose account: 209.204.188.208 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other contributions outside this topic.
- emphatically, categorically, a STRONGKEEP This is a matter of preserving a historical record of a debate-- whether Andy will ultimately be proved correct or not is irrelevant to the argument. This isn't about whether Andy was right-- the thing is, eventually Andy became a story in his own right. That's why we have to preserve this. Period. (iandb1) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.34.2.39 (talk • contribs)
- Strong Keep Andy's work, to have everyone the right to vote and to keep fraud from happening should be honored. Keep the page for his memory. --sakabatou19— Possible single purpose account: sakabatou19 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other contributions outside this topic.
- STRONG KEEP Andy's work should be respected. This page is an honor to him. --Haruka3_2000— Possible single purpose account: Haruka3_2000 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other contributions outside this topic.
- Strong keep Andy made a strong contribution with his work (refactor personal attack) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.115.31.179 (talk • contribs) — Possible single purpose account: 83.115.31.179 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other contributions outside this topic.
- STRONG KEEP - I don't understand why it needs to be deleted. It should remain up in honor and respect for his hard work. It's also a memorial. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.176.16.234 (talk • contribs)
- STRONG KEEP--Mr. Stephenson's work played a large part in preserving democracy. I can't understand why anyone would want to delete, as Andy worked for all of us----His life revolved around making sure ALL our votes are counted.---Booli—The preceding unsigned comment was added by BOOLI (talk • contribs) 14:59, 16 October 2006. — Possible single purpose account: BOOLI (talk • contribs) has made few or no other contributions outside this topic.
- Delete Andy who?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.214.154.104 (talk • contribs)
- 135.214.154.104 appears to be an open proxy. BenBurch 17:15, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
- A whois lookup shows this is registered to Cingular Wireless as part of their dynamic range. Thus, while it is an anonymous IP and part of a dynamic range, I see no evidence it's an open proxy.--Rosicrucian 18:17, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
- 135.214.154.104 appears to be an open proxy. BenBurch 17:15, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
- Super Duper Strong Keep Great american heroes like Andy should be memorialized into stone, rather than washed down the memory hole of the Bush dictatorship. You people pushing for delete should be ashamed of yourselves. How can you sleep at night? It also possible that the people recommending delete were also part of fringe right that contributed to Andys death by denying him the funds for surgery, and now they wish to erase that stain on their soul.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.102.254.33 (talk • contribs) 19:21, 16 October 2006 (UTC).
- *STRONG KEEP* Andy is clearly notable as any thinking person would know. Attempts to delete this fine man are evidence of the hand of Rove at work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.159.148.121 (talk • contribs)
- Comment if you cannot explain why Andy Stephenson is notable, or reference your vote to another editor who you agree with, then no he is not "clearly notable" for the purposes of this AfD.--Rosicrucian 20:38, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
- Keep It appears that there are adquate references which are verifiable and reliable to establish Stephenson's notability for his work regarding the weaknesses of "black box" voting and his running for secretary of state of Washington.Kitty Hammond 22:01, 16 October 2006 (UTC)— Possible single purpose account: Kitty Hammond (talk • contribs) has made few or no other contributions outside this topic.
- As a journalist, I thought the situation that Stephenson was experiencing with regard to those who hassled him on his deathbed was curious enough to devote an entire article on it See http://www.coastalpost.com/05/06/01.html I personally spoke with Peter Angelos and he confirmed that he used his influence to help make Stephenson's cutting edge pancreas operation at Johns Hopkins Med Center a reality.
I think that Andy Stephenson was and will always be one of the voices for truth, at a time when the mainstream media would not know truth if it came up and bit them on their butt. If Vince Foster has a wikipedia entry, and he is only mourned at this point by his family, then Andy Stephenson should have an entry - he is mourned by his family of thousands of voting activists across the country. When I originall y posted the story at my newspaper, I truly believed that the right wing cabal had influenced PayPal to withhold the needed funds. Since then I have learned that that version of PayPal did that to many of its subscribers - they withheld monies probably just to have the interest on the funds. EBay has since acquired PayPal and it now operates in a more legitimate manner. Currently Stephenson will be honored with mention in a HBO documentary on the election process in the day of electronic machinery. He is also someone that Dorothy Faddiman focuses on in her documentary "Stealing America". The Coastal Post comes out once a month in hard copy that is sent to 18,000 subscribers in Marin County, California. It also is on the web. I own all copy that I write, once it is out and on the newstand. My opinion is to StrongKeep —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.218.153.212 (talk • contribs) . — Possible single purpose account: 12.218.153.212 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other contributions outside this topic.