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IkonForums, Jive Forums

Kemiv here I was in the process of creating both of these articles simultaneously when you deleted both of them with the reason A7 Web. I would have appreciated it if you had contacted me first before deleting both articles, because for one reason I was not finished with creating both of these articles. If I believe correctly A7 web is the reason for not citing sources correctly. So if you had contacted me first with the problem instead of deleting both articles I would greatly have appreciated it. I find it very bothersome that these articles where both deleted while I was in the process of creating them. Please next time refrain from such sudden action and try and fix the problem first. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kemiv (talk • contribs)

To be perfectly frank, they were both advertisements. I deleted them as A7 instead of G11 to be more kind about it. There was no problem to fix as both articles fit within speedy deletion criteria. IrishGuy talk 02:21, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Kammaren, Björn-Erik Karlsson

This is Sebastian again. Today, as you well know, i have edited Kammaren and Björn-Erik Karlsson. You have undone my changes, and i have to ask you why? To begin with, a descendant, as you should be aware of, is a person stemming from an ancestor. To use the phrase "is related to" denotes a living relative. The correct form should in fact be descendant. I must ask in all fairness as to why you have reverted a correct entry. The second entry reverted by you is the Kammaren edit. Since you only yesterday stated IMDB as a source when you reprimanded me for my editing, i will simply use the same argument as you in my defence: The trivia entry i added came from IMDB, hence, it should as all other trivia entries under the same heading be considered as a true edit and not reverted. The only reason i could think of for your revision is the unsightly appearance of the entry. But that facet of the entry does not make it less plausible, does it? I am interested in hearing your views on this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.235.28.11 (talk • contribs)

I think you will find that the first edit I reverted was more vandalism like yesterday [1]. Then I looked at the other edits, the IMDB trivia was unsourced and therefore I removed it. If you would like to add it back in, please use a reference. Also, please stop vandalising articles with the werewolf nonsense. IrishGuy talk 01:01, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I assure you, I am not to be blamed for those edits. The person resoponsible is sitting two computers down from me right now, as he was yesterday, the day before that and most weekends since two years back. It was actually he who showed me how to make editions in the first place. Having said that, i hope you refrain in the future from making accusations just because we share the same IP number. There are about 20-25 computers in this facility, all sharing the same number. Am i to be held accountable for my workmates habits? Now, you didn't answer my query before. Am i not correct regarding the phrasing of descendant Vis-à-vis "related to"? And regarding the trivia entry, if that precise item which i inserted was unsourced, shouldn't all trivia entries be struck from the page, since they to then must be unsourced?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.235.28.11 (talk • contribs)

Indeed, unsourced trivia should be removed. In the future, it would be nice if you were less condescending in your tone. Your IP was performing vandalism. Yesterday and today. Minutes after I give vandalism warnings, a couple of benign edits show up. That is the pattern. If you claim it isn't you that is vandalising, fine, but know that if it continues, that IP is bound to be blocked. IrishGuy talk 01:19, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Condescending? I find it very intresting you think my tone towards you is condescending. I' m beginning to realise from reading your "talk" history you have a penchant for using these kinds of words to make individuals appear as hostile compared to yourself. I am absolutely not condescending towards you. I am guessing you feel that way because i have a individual way about me when i debate, but it is simply the way i go about it. Enough said about that topic. Regarding my query... Any thoughts?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.235.28.11 (talk • contribs)

Please read the following: i hope you refrain in the future from making accusations...that is condescending. Please don't make assumptions about me and/or my motivations. Thanks. IrishGuy talk 01:34, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

At the risk of actually making myself guilty of being condescending: You are misusing the word. The phrase you quoted does NOT have anything to do with me acting in a superior way towards you. I simply nurture a hope of not being accused of something i did not do. And you're not answering my query about the descendant issue. I would like your point of view on that topic.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.235.28.11 (talk • contribs)

Actually, I'm not misusing the word. It is very condescending for you to make prounouncements about what you feel I should or shouldn't do in the future. At this point, I really see no need to continue this conversation. IrishGuy talk 02:15, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Let us put that issue aside then, because we clearly do not see eye to eye on it (and there is no fault in that, i must add). But you know i was really only interested in having a debate on you reverting the phrase descendant. I strongly feel this word is the correct one to use in this case. What is your view on that issue? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.235.28.11 (talk • contribs)

My opinion is that it depends upon the relation. If the subject is not a direct descendent (child, grandchild, etc) then the term "related to" is probably more accurate. Otherwise using "descended from" denotes that the subject is a child, grandchild, etc. IrishGuy talk 02:56, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

A descendant is a person of the same lineage as an ancestor, it does not denote a direct descendant.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.235.28.11 (talk • contribs)

Nor does "is related to" denote a living relative. But both of these phrases are commonly interpreted that way. IrishGuy talk 03:07, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

But "related to" is somewhat obscure in meaning (living converse to non-living) compared to "a descendant", wouldn't you agree?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.235.28.11 (talk • contribs)

The article gives the years that the person was Prime Minister. I doubt people will believe a 26 year old is related to a living 122 year old. IrishGuy talk 03:20, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

My point is "related to" is not the correct form to use in this matter. The everymans' comprehension level is not the issue, nor has it ever been the issue. It is an improvement in terminology.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.235.28.11 (talk • contribs)

As we are writing an encyclopedia, it should be aimed at the comprehension level of the everyman. IrishGuy talk 04:07, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, come on! You know i am speaking of the issue at point, the very issue we are debating. Don't belittle me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.235.28.11 (talk • contribs)

I'm not belittling you. You asked my opinion, I gave it. You decided to argue it on a technicality. I will give you that same techinicality right back. You either agree that descendent commonly means direct descendent or you don't. IrishGuy talk 08:30, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

SmogWatch

I appriciate your concern about my SmogWatch article, but I spent a fair amount of time creating this work and I believe it deserves a place on Wikipedia as much as anything else. Thanks for your interest in my work. Gareth Kelleher

As I noted on your talk page, you are violating WP:COI by creating articles about yourself. Additionally, you continue to recreate deleted articles. Please stop. IrishGuy talk 22:26, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I have to say I do still disagree somewhat, and still believe that article should remain, but I shall have to respect your opinion and viewpoint on this matter and shall have to leave the article off the encyclopedia. (Kelnet 22:37, 25 February 2007 (UTC)) I would however like to know how a page like Cuntbusting is allowed to exist whereas pages such as my own are not.

That article is under WP:AFD which you can see here. It will most likely be deleted soon. IrishGuy talk 23:01, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Zonaverdi

Hi, you appear to keep wanting to delete my article on the band 'Sykes'...? What appears to be the problem? Would appreciate some explanatory feedback - cheers, Zonaverdi. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zonaverdi (talk • contribs)

The article lacks any assertion of importance or notability. Please read WP:BAND. IrishGuy talk 21:03, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Fair play, fair play. Still, we clearly both need to get out more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zonaverdi (talk • contribs)

Sebastian Bengtsson

I am Sebastian Bengtsson, your minor cleanup as you call it is in fact vandalism, since I have changed items on the profile, items that were untrue and needed rectifying. I'm considering reporting you for violation of a profile you know nothing about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.235.28.11 (talk • contribs)

The version I edited was correct per IMDB. I also corrected the formatting of the section headings. If you are Bengtsson, you shouldn't be editing that article as it is a conflict of interest violation. Please don't make threats. Thanks. IrishGuy talk 00:22, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

To begin with, i'm abolutely not making any threats, as you well know, a threat is a negative declaration of hostile intent, and that is not even close to my consideration of reporting you to wiki staff. If rectifying mistakes written about yourself (In both Wikipedia and IMDB, mind you) denotes a conflict of interest violation, i must consider it an impossible task to set my own record straight then, since corrections, even the most minute ones, are forbidden by me to apply. The only alternative then is to contact wiki staff and have them remove the faulty entries, a task quite redundant in actuality since i could have changed them myself sans the conflict of interest violation. Kafka springs to mind, i must say. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.235.28.11 (talk • contribs)

I fail to see the point of your edits to remove all reference to the most comprehensive DeLillo site on the web, "Don DeLillo's America". The site offers more detailed information than many of the Wikipedia articles and would be of interest to anyone reading the pages about DeLillo or his work. What harm does including the link cause and why did you go through the trouble to remove them from all his pages? Inoculatedcities 21:38, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

First, it was spam. The links were added by the site owner in all DeLillo articles. Second, the pages offer nothing of note. The same information was already on Wikipedia. IrishGuy talk 21:41, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

AfD details

In reply to this comment, which you have already archived:

I linked to the previous version in the AfD. There is nothing disingenuous with what I am doing. I am removing uncited material, which is what we are supposed to do. With regard to the YSIT article, I am removing poorly written, vague material. I am now seeking independent comment on this situation. Oh, and I didn't threaten you. We are supposed to warn editors when they are close to violating 3RR. --Future Fun Jumper (TIC) 00:03, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, you could try using the {{fact}} tag which would allow the original author or other editors to add references rather than simply remove 60% of an article because there isn't a reference link after every single sentence. You aren't an admin, and as I noted before, you have already broken the 3RR so I'm not sure why you decided to make veiled threats to me about it. IrishGuy talk 00:06, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Again: it's not a threat. It's an accepted and recommended practice. Three reverts is the limit; four breaks the rule. Please be reasonable. --Future Fun Jumper (TIC) 00:55, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't believe I have been unreasonable. You are the one who slapped a "notability" tag on an article with references that included an article in Variety because they have a deal with NBC. Not exactly non-notable. You also put the same tag on an actor with numerous IMDB credits. You also used a less-than-honest edit summary. Here you claim that "removing tags as a show of good will" when in fact you removed the tags...and about 50% of the article. You weren't simply removing tags. I even asked you if you needed assistance finishing an AfD...which you never bother to respond to. Instead you came here and left the above rude note. IrishGuy talk 01:02, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I didn't feel that having a deal with a network was notable until they actually produced something. In reviewing the details of the deal, I came to agree with the tag's removal. I have addressed the YSIT problems: You continue to revert all of my edits, despite arguing only against some of them. I restored the edits I made, and removed the tags you disagreed with. I feel you are being disingenuous and defamatory. Additionally, I have not once been rude to you, but you have raised my ire with your behavior toward me. Oh, and the message you left on my talk page might have been more noticeable had you actually started a new section; as it is, it just blends in with another conversation.--Future Fun Jumper (TIC) 01:09, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I haven't reverted all your edits. Only one article did I revert your edits and I explained why. In a couple other article I fleshed them out and removed the tags. If an article truly is non-notable, then it is non-notable. It is extremely disingenuous to strip an article down to one sentence and then slap a "notability" tag on it. IrishGuy talk 01:13, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I was only talking about your reverts on the YSIT page. OK, let's stop arguing because this is stupid. I don't doubt you want the best for Wikipedia and for these articles, whether it be their improvement or removal. Let's work together. I am sorry that you feel I have acted in error. I removed information that was uncited, and what was left was not notable. If you feel this was inappropriate, please work with me to do this the right way. Thanks, Future Fun Jumper (TIC) 01:17, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Believe it or not, I am trying to work with you and not against you. I am not a radical inclusionist. I have put up a fair amount of article for AfD and speedy deletion. But I personally feel that an article should be left in full when tagged so the closing admin can see it in its entirety. I will concede that I may not have been as clear as I probably should/could have been. Sometimes typed text comes across differently than the original intention. IrishGuy talk 01:26, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Add my voice to the chorus of people who are finding Future Fun Jumper (TIC)'s approach to editing to be harsh, absolute and without flexibility in any way. I'm also finding it quite disturbing you are constantly quoting Wiki rules to defend your "suggestions" yet you seem quite unopen to another aspect of the Wiki that makes it a great place: collaboration. Many of the claims you're making regarding deletion or citation are somewhat out of left-field and based only on your own personal view point. Everyone at Wiki has different views and that adds/enhances the Wiki experience. But from reading your very strict interpretation of these rules, there seems to be right/wrong and no inbetween. I personally do not think you will improve articles by being this OCD and strict. And perhaps you should learn about rewrites ad cleanups. Because from a simple viewing of the tags you're obsessively adding, it seems that a simple rewording could fix most of the questions at hand. SpyMagician 04:07, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure what tags I am obsessively adding. I believe that I was actually asking Future Fun Jumper (TIC) to ease up on the tags needing references for almost every sentence. IrishGuy talk 04:20, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for the confussion, but my note was in reference to Future Fun Jumper (TIC) and his tactics at editing. It's simply too harsh, to reliant on claiming Wiki rules without thought given to Wiki style really being the main cause of contention.SpyMagician 04:23, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Ah. OK. I was wondering if you confused my edits with his because I couldn't understand why it felt like you were chastising me. I agree that he seems to desire citations for absolutely everything which seems to be a bit much. Some of the article he tagged, I found references with a quick google search...the same he could have found had he taken a few moments to do so. IrishGuy talk 04:25, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
FYI, Future Fun Jumper (TIC) is an idiot. He's been busted and now he's taken to "moving" his "talk" page to an "artchive" undoubtedly to make sure others don't see what he's done in the past. Pathetic and very much not in the spirit of the Wiki. He's also taken to making very pointed—yet baseless—claims against me because I simpley *GASP* provided clearer citations to some of the articles he asked for citations on. I merely do better linking in a few articles that are messy and he flames me and accuses me of all kinds of junk? There's no pleasing this editor in any way. He has power issues. SpyMagician 10:28, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
1. I was attempting to archive like IrishGuy. 2. Please note that among the articles that are involved in this dispute are several that this user has a conflict of interest with, in particular, the one about him.[2] --Future Fun Jumper (TIC) 10:51, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Future Fun Jumper (TIC), your claims are baseless and only after you were caught hiding your own discussion/talk page did you sudden change your tune. What is amazing to me is to see how many "deletion" and "citation" claims you have placed on articles, yet you basically don't positively contriubute to artciles unless it involves covering your tracks or making your own profile look better. With one week under his belt, Future Fun Jumper (TIC) is doing a great job of endearing himself to nobody and generally acting like a troll. Apologies IrishGuy if posting this here is inappropriate, but I am simply sick of Future Fun Jumper (TIC) and the way he has contributed to the Wiki. SpyMagician 10:55, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Wow. OK. SpyMagician, calling someone and idiot is a violation of WP:CIV and WP:ATTACK. If you are Jack Szwergold, FFJ is correct, you really shouldn't be editing that article per WP:COI. FFJ isn't hiding his talk page by archiving it as long as he has a link to the archived page. Now, all that being said, FFJ, you probably could ease up a little on being so black and white about some of the notability guidelines. At bare minimum, a little discussion on the article's talk pages before adding numerous tags might be helpful to other editors. But seriously, guys this fighting isn't helping anything. IrishGuy talk 21:02, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Vandal Tag

Sorry, I wouldn't want you to get the wrong end of the stick - I wasn't calling you a vandal, I was saying that the tag you put on the article was saying that it was a vandal one, when it isn't. I know the radio tramp, he's well known round here. BTW, I'm from Donegal myself. Gypsy Eyes 00:28, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

No, the tag states that the subject is unencyclopedic. And he is. IrishGuy talk 00:29, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hi there; I happened to come across your warnings to User:Chanceyb (I was NP patrolling), and researched you a bit. Please do not be offended if this has come up before; have you ever thought of going for Admin? You have a very healthy, well-spread edit count, and I cannot see you failing. You may, of course, have decided not to, in which case please tell me to mind my own business.--Anthony.bradbury 00:42, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Honestly, it isn't something I ever gave a great deal of thought to. Maybe I should think about it. Thanks for the kind words. IrishGuy talk 00:44, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Vandal Report

Chancyb (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) - can you tell me what the page is that this vandal kept removing speedy tags from? When the pages are deleted, it gets removed from contributions.--Kungfu Adam (talk) 01:39, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I can't recall off the top of my head. It was a list of hottest women or something like that. He made two identical ones with slightly different spellings in the title and between the two, he removed the speedy tags about six times. Sorry I couldn't be more help. It was a few hours and many edits ago and I just don't remember the title. IrishGuy talk 05:08, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Free Energy Maglev

Hi, you recently nominated this for speedy deletion. Please note that original research is not a speedy deletion criteria, so I have removed your tag. I agree that the article should be deleted, and so I have prodded it. J Milburn 18:44, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


Popups

You seem to have the same problem with popups..Try Using IE7 or Mozilla Firefox..cause that will solve the problem--Cometstyles 19:21, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I am using IE7. It only seemed to have begun happening a few hours ago. Odd. IrishGuy talk 19:22, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Yup..It happened to me so I reverted back to Mozilla and its working perfectly..try it..--Cometstyles 19:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

sorry

Irishguy i'm sorry that me and you got of to a bad start It is only my seccond day I hope we arn't fighting all the time--Ben Hall13 16:29, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

It's no problem at all. Feel free to leave a message here if you need any assistance with anything. IrishGuy talk 17:09, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

FYI

Hiya, just as a note of explanation, I hope you know that I'm also very anti-spam on the magician bios. I do recommend taking a look at the article creator's contribs though. He's a very new editor, but has been doing some absolutely phenomenal work right out of the gate, like at Impalement arts. As such, I'd like to give him as much positive encouragement as possible. With the right guidance, he could turn out to be a big help with the magician articles.  :) --Elonka 19:29, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I saw his previous edits and I agree that he has added some good work. The new articles, though, seem lacking in sources. At least at this time. Hopefully, they will be fleshed out. IrishGuy talk 19:31, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Sid Haig's Page

Just wanted to say thanks for restoring the deleted content on his page. I have no idea why some feel the need to delete factual, biographical information, but it's fixed, and I thank you. =) Spirot 05:14, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem at all. IrishGuy talk 17:54, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

RfA?

Majorly would like to nominate you to be an administrator. Please visit Wikipedia:Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact Majorly to accept or decline the nomination. A page has been created for your nomination at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Irishguy. If you accept the nomination, you must formally state your acceptance and answer the questions on that page. Once you have answered the questions, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.

I will create the page should you accept - please do! If not, no worries. --Majorly (o rly?) 21:19, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

OK since I don't think we've come in contact with each other before, I'd like to discuss a few things before we go ahead with it. Your email doesn't appear to be set - could you please set it so I can email you? Even better, if you use IRC I'm on right now. Thanks. --Majorly (o rly?) 21:38, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Tis all done in case you didn't realize ;) --Majorly (o rly?) 22:52, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

RFA question

Heya IrishGuy. You've been around for a while, so I didn't feel worried about asking my question. Interested in your answer! - Ta bu shi da yu 05:22, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

That was a very interesting question you posed. I hope my answer was satisfactory. IrishGuy talk 05:53, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

The Weakly Lawyer

Hi. I just thought I'd let you know that in reviewing CAT:CSD a little while ago, I declined to delete the above article that you tagged. It's obviously a short article so far, but it was just created today by a first-time contributor, and it appears a good-faith case for notability could be made, so I thought it was premature to delete it although I have noted on both the article talkpage and the creator's that the assertion of notability needs to be beefed up. I think the article is harmless but if it hasn't grown stronger after a reasonable time I suppose you could re-tag the article or put it up for AfD.

Even though we seem not to have identical deletion standards, I still stand by my support !vote on your RfA and look forward to it continuing to enjoy the rousing success it's had so far. Regards, Newyorkbrad 22:44, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know....and thank you for not altering your RfA stance :)
I initially tagged it because it has no Alexa presence and Google finds only two hits for the title [3] and three for the web URL [4]. There didn't appear to be much opportunity for notability. I'm not arguing against your removal of the tag, just letting you understand my motivation for adding the tag. IrishGuy talk 22:47, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Heather Carter

Thank you for your patience.

Johncaron.ca 03:08, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Again, let me know if you need any assistance. IrishGuy talk 03:46, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Thanks

You're very welcome. Will 23:33, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing up the Heather Carter entry. It is exactly what I had in mind. Thanks again!72.39.212.117 20:38, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

CSD

You recently nominated [5] for speedy....but theres a plain and clear assertion of notability. I removed the speedy tag. You can AFD it if you want or prod it. Speedy deletions are not for non-notable things, they're for things with no ASSERTION of notability (and a link to IMDB and a filmography is an assertion).

Something you should be aware of as an administrator seeing as you have a pending RFA. ⇒ SWATJester On Belay! 01:52, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I realize that articles aren't to be speedied if there is an assertion of notability. How is saying someone appeared in a television show an assertion of notability? Just appearing on a show isn't automatic notability. The article is one sentence long. IrishGuy talk 01:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)


MAGIC JOHNSON

Please don't mark edits as minor when in fact you are making large changes to an article. IrishGuy talk 18:27, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Get a fu#king life ! I simply started the process of cleaning up some really bad journalism. Presumably yours ! Don't waste your / my time with trivial comments.....Dannyg3332 18:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Please read WP:CIV. I don't think calling the opposite team the "hated Celtics" is cleaning up bad journalism, but is instead adding POV commentary. Also, as I noted, you were making large scale edits and marking your edits as minor when in fact they weren't. IrishGuy talk 06:41, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

The problem is beyond the "hated Celtics" reference. This is supposed to be objective. Learn sentence structure and how to write if you continue to pursue journalism......Dannyg3332 18:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, you added the "hated Celtics" reference. Once again, I ask you to read WP:CIV before continuing in such a rude manner. IrishGuy talk 18:37, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I did not originate that reference. Try practicing your grammar in sandbox before proceeding......Dannyg3332 18:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I take it you have no desire to follow the guidelines on civility? IrishGuy talk 18:50, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Done with this conversation. Hope you're able to get your facts straight as you improve your english grammar skills in the future. Dannyg3332 19:22, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

WP:CIV. IrishGuy talk 19:33, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

F/YDannyg3332 04:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Apparently now you should expand your reading to WP:ATTACK. IrishGuy talk 06:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

A report at WP:ANI for your attention

A report has been filed over at WP:ANI that you may wish to add comment on...if you can spare a few moments. Good day. 142.166.244.85 15:32, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem

You're more than welcome :) Jem 22:33, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Question

I am assuming this was an error, but I reverted some vandalism and then you reverted it right back to the vandalism [6]. Was this an error? IrishGuy talk 00:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


Unfortunately, yes. My scripts are messing up again. Sorry about that, and thanks for catching it! (I didn't double check as I should have...) Locriani 00:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

It's no problem at all. Things happen. I just wanted to check with you and make sure. IrishGuy talk 00:36, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Cool. Thanks again! Locriani 00:38, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


Christopher_Lotito

I have provided a detailed rebuttal to claims that I am a non-notable at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_February_20#Christopher_Lotito -- since you last weighed in on the topic. Please do look at it and consider the new information I've provided. Thank you.

Rownak

The speedy delete template you placed on the page for Rownak was removed by Rownak7. I'm not sure why he doesn't create a user page for this stuff. He's been hiding the page as a redirect to his favorite Manga artist. I found it because he used the page as grafitti on the Japanese artists list. I replaced the template. - Parsa 20:09, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. IrishGuy talk 20:21, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations

You're now an admin. Spend some time on the administrator's reading list, and don't hesitate to ask questions. Be conservative with the tools. All wheel wars can be avoided by simply discussing instead of wheel warring. But at the same time, dig in and help out with the backlogs. I'm sure you'll do well, as you had overwhelming support, so off with you to use your shiny new tools. :) - Taxman Talk 23:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I have recently seen the wheel war going on with the Daniel Brandt article...if nothing else, it has illustrated to me that caution is key when using the tools. Thanks again. IrishGuy talk 23:58, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
An hour and a half late, but still better late than never... well done, I knew you'd do well! Have fun with the new tools (but not too much fun, stick with the easy stuff first). Good luck! Majorly (o rly?) 00:00, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Thank you again. :) IrishGuy talk 00:01, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Welcome onto the ship :), good luck and don't hesitate to ask about if you are in doubt about anything. ~ Arjun 01:26, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the kind words. I won't hesitate to ask...hopefully I won't need to :) IrishGuy talk 01:27, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Comhghairdeas! It's great to have another Irish administrator! gaillimhConas tá tú? 02:19, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Congrats, IrishGuy. May you wield mop and bucket with grace and equanimity... Some sound advice at Wikipedia:Advice for new administrators. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 03:35, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Congrats! —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-25 03:41Z
A-late-but-hopefully-not-too-late congratulations on your succesful RfA! Happy mopping! - Anas Talk? 11:44, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Congrats Irish. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up ® 13:06, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

all done

that happens unless you delete it first--Empire Earth 01:02, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

thank--Empire Earth 01:06, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem. You will probably need to change the link on the game template so it doesn't needlessly point to a redirect. IrishGuy talk 01:07, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
I made a bot request as im too lazy--Empire Earth 01:18, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
LOL. IrishGuy talk 01:18, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
I noticed you are a new admin, so you have been forgiven. Can't go around deleting everything can we!--Empire Earth 19:02, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Vandal

No, he didn't stop [7]. --FritzG 01:34, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I warned him again. He really needs a more than one warning before taking it to WP:AIV. IrishGuy talk 01:36, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Ok, you've seen him. What about 3RR? ;-) --FritzG 02:07, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Reply To RFA Thank You

Perhaps you can answer a question for me. Lately I feel as though my skin is too thin, that whenever I see someone being bullied, I get too angry. I want to help those people, but I don't know how. I wish I could become an admin, but I'm not sure if it could happen. I was wondering if you had any advice on what I could do. Just Heditor review 04:13, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

There is nothing wrong with wanting to help others. On the contrary, it is admirable. If it is a serious policy violation, obviously there are avenues to take it (WP:AIV, Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, etc.). If you find that you are getting too angry, simply notify an admin and try to walk away and relax. IrishGuy talk 04:18, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Just want to say hi

I've seen you around, Irishguy, and I just wanted to take the time to say hi. I know, what a lame think to spend about 5 minutes typing this all up for. Also, I want to say that you have a new ally in the fight against vandalism, me. So...yeah. I am aware of the fact that the preceding messsage might have sounded stupid. Warm regards, Nol888(Talk) 05:01, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Nothing lame there. It is always nice to meet a fellow vandal fighter. :) IrishGuy talk 05:02, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

151.188.0.230

Ah, bugger, slip of the finger, I think I was trying to block the guy below him. Thanks for telling me about that one, I've unblocked. Oops :) Congratulations on +sysop! – riana_dzasta 06:11, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem. These new buttons can be tricky :) Congrats to you as well. IrishGuy talk 06:12, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

A7 Band

What exactly is an A7 band? You recently deleted one of my pages because of this. -CHITOMCGEE!!!

A7 is deletion criteria. It means it's an article about a band that does not assert the importance of the subject. If some degree of importance is asserted, then it cannot be speedy deleted. If, at that point, an editor still believe it fails WP:BAND, it would go to AfD. IrishGuy talk 20:30, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


Derka

The page is back, and it looks like it may need some salt. Flyguy649talkcontribs 20:29, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

OK. Thanks. IrishGuy talk 20:30, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
FYI, WP:PT is used instead of the {{deletedpage}} template. Unless the page currently is in a deleted state, listing it at WP:PT has no effect. —David Levy 21:08, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes, sorry about the confusion there. I did a deletedpage first, but then decided to list it on WP:PT instead. Immediately after I removed the deletedpage template, it was recreated. At that point, I just decided to go with the deletedpage template and I forgot to remove it from WP:PT. My apologies. IrishGuy talk 21:11, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Stop deleting my page it is not nonsense, its american culture. thats like sayin the page for hippies is nonsense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aikenfangs13 (talk • contribs)

A language that you made up yourself is not encyclopedic. Please stop abusing Wikipedia. IrishGuy talk 22:08, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Its not a launguage i made up and it may not be in the encyclopedia because it is a new fad but still with the invention of internet encyclopedias you should be able to add new things so that it is always up to date. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.230.182.167 (talk • contribs)

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia therefore what is in it needs to be encyclopedic. Writing articles that state: This in derka language means fuck you irshguy. Stop fucking with my page your bein a fuckin asshole that is all you accomplish why dont you get friends instead of messinfg with other peoples pages is not very encyclopedic. Your block is only for 24 hours. Upon your return, please edit in a more constructive fashion. Thanks. IrishGuy talk 22:18, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

The only reason i would type that is because you were bein a genuine asshole about something you know nothing about. If you would have simply been like; YIm going to have to block this because it looks like nonsens and if you would have givin me a chance to explain it then i would have been fine with you deleting it but you were an asshole just deleting it over and over and over again you knew i made the page you could have said something you were just bein a bitch

User:88.109.112.222

Hi Irishguy. Hope you don'tr mind, I have extended the block you just placed on the above IP. Given that all it had done was blank the same few pages, it's probably a static IP being used by just the one person (to vandalise), so I have softblocked it for 6 months. Proto ► 22:37, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't mind at all. Thanks. IrishGuy talk 22:38, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Clarification on A7 for user pages

WP:CSD contains the following text "For any user pages that are not speedy deletion candidates, use Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion." This suggests to me that user pages can be candidates for speedy deletion. Since this comes from official policy, could you please point me to the other policy that says that it is wrong to put a speedy deletion request on a user page. I appreciate your guidance. Thanks. -- Mufka (user) (talk) (contribs) 22:55, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

User pages can be speedied, but under CSD U1 and CSD U2 which are userpage speedy categories. Anything other than those two would be kicked over to WP:MFD. Honestly, I don't know if THE G.O.L.E would get through MfD because there aren't any links so it isn't exactly advertising. User's can technically put information about themselves on their user pages and this one might fall within those guidelines. While I personally think it is a bit of an advertisement, I don't think it would be deleted under MfD. Feel free to try it though, I could be wrong. IrishGuy talk 23:00, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Headlines

Can you please add this comment to the Headlines on the main page, because I don't have access, since I am not an admin. Thanks!

Real96 00:34, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't see it. :-(. Real96 01:56, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I apologize. I have been quite busy and I didn't get around to the main page. Again, I apologize. IrishGuy talk 01:57, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
That's okay. Here's the link: Template:In_the_news. Thanks! And, congrats on your adminship! Real96 01:59, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Cheers

Thanks for reverting my talk page and correcting my template on the IP's talk page, guess I should also user this opportunity to say congrats on your adminship - you'll do great work. Thanks again RyanPostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 01:45, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem, and thanks for the kind words. IrishGuy talk 01:46, 26 February 2007 (UTC)


vandalism

I understand your concern over my alleged vandalism. Please refer to my talk page for my response. I am sorry for my "threat", I was quite disturbed over my repeated allegations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.204.89.104 (talk • contribs)

NovaNova

Just so you know, I have blocked NovaNova for two days as a result of his personal attacks. Feel free to comment on my decision: Not one of my easier blocks, needless to say. :-S Heimstern Läufer 02:32, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I replied on the admin board, but I agree with the block. IrishGuy talk 02:57, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Brown Stand Up Comics relisted on AfD for more meaningful consensus

Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Brown_Stand-Up_Comics <-- in case you wanted to weigh in. Cheers. Carolfrog 07:57, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Talk:The Angry Video Game Nerd

Since you deleted the above talk page, could you also salt the page and it's respective mainspace? The fans of this fellow are just going to keep recreating the talk page and/or the article otherwise. NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 09:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Done. :) IrishGuy talk 09:37, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Although I'm still able to edit the Talk: page; did you not protect it, or do I just need to refresh my browser? NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 09:40, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Usually the talk page is left open in case there is a valid reason for discussion. If it starts to become a vandal magnet, feel free to let me know. IrishGuy talk 09:42, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
It has been before, actually. This page has been deleted at least twice before since anonymous users/single purpose account were trolling in order to justify recreating an article (for instance, they used this travesty of an AfD to prove there was evidence to recreate the article and claimed delete voters in a previous AfD about the subject made personal attacks, which was blatantly false). NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 09:46, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Also, the talk pages for other spaces where this article has been created (Angry Nintendo Nerd, Angry Video Game Nerd) have also been protected for the same reasons. NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 09:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, since the main article is salted, I'm not sure how much the anons can do with the talk page other than complain. They obviously cannot recreate without going through the proper channels and ranting on the talk page won't bring the article back. IrishGuy talk 09:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Termination of Waffenfarbe

I think it is merely a word. Nothing of common interest behind it. Can you do it??Habibie 10:46, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I have no idea what you are talking about. IrishGuy talk 10:47, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
see Waffenfarbe! see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Germany#The_so-called_.22Third_Reich.22 for details on my opinion. Habibie 11:25, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean by G1? (I'm not yet familiar with citations. It was written "Editing So-called "Third-Reich" - From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - User Irishguy (talk) deleted this article after you started editing it, with a reason of: G1." a few seconds before. Was that you? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Habibie (talk • contribs) 10:54, 26 February 2007 (UTC).

Isn't it vandalism to contribute words to an English Encyclopedia which provide only translations into English (see Nachshub for example)? I'm asking you as an expert for vandalism. Habibie 12:06, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Articles that are merely word translations belong in a dictionary, not an encyclopedia. It isn't vandalism, it just isn't encyclopedic. IrishGuy talk 20:24, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for help

Thank you man for that image solution.AlexPU 12:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello, Gomers / Gomeroke / Biff Blumfumgagnge deletion question

Hi Irishguy - I am new to Wiki, and was trying to list a fairly noteable and important Madison, WI band called the GOmers and their related stuff... Noticed it was all deleted, attempted to show noteability but I guess failed as they're all gone today... Can you offer any advice on how to show noteability ? I had started talk pages showing the awards, affiliations w. King Crimson, etc... But again I'm new so maybe I messed up. Their sister band, Reptile Palace Orchestra which has only been around 11 years (and Biff has been producing / active as player/manager in) has their uncontested Wiki listing, so I figured the brother band the gomers which have been active over 20 years, have Mayoral importance to the city, and have invented their noteable brand of live karaoke, would be ok to list. To see the fantastic group of clients this band has worked with, and the website related to Beeftone studios (which also needs a wiki listing) is here - http://beeftone.com/clients.html

I myself (Biff Blumfumgagnge) am an international performer / producer / musician whose credits outweigh many folks who are listed on wiki.

Another brother band, Headpump, has an uncontested listing - but has only released 1 CD whereas the Gomers have released 5 and again, have been active over 20 years. Headpump is another band I play with and produce - again, they have wiki article, I guess are noteable enough - why not the Gomers ?

Really any help / advice on how to correctly list these things would be greatly appreciated... thanks - beeftone@charter.net • contribs) 13:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC).

--Bifftar 13:54, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

If you are Biff Blumfumgagne, you shouldn't be writing this ariticle. It is a conflict of interest. While they may have mayoral importance and their own karaoke style, none of that meets WP:BAND which is the criteria for inclusion for bands. You can read more at that link. IrishGuy talk 20:22, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Jack Newman (doctor)

Hi Irishguy, you speedy deleted Jack Newman (doctor) before I had a chance to add more information for his notability. Please search google for "Jack Newman" and you'll see that he's quite well known, has written many articles and produced many videos about breastfeeding, opened the first hospital breastfeeding clinic in Canada, speaks regularly at conferences (La Leche League, IBCLC), and a consultant for Unicef. Could the page be restored so I can continue to work on it? Thanks! Ciotog 19:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

The article was only one sentence and a link. If you have evidence of notability, feel free to go ahead and recreate it, the page isn't protected. IrishGuy talk 20:30, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I have two young kids, even 1 sentence can be quite an effort sometimes. I'd rather build on what was there (as little as it was) rather than recreating it. It might be a nice gesture on your part also - rather than deleting the page after less than 24 hours, and without giving me the opportunity to respond to the speedy delete tag, perhaps a request for expansion could have been placed instead. I see you've created a number of stub bios yourself - surely you wouldn't want to recreate those pages if they were deleted without that opportunity? Ciotog 20:59, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Frankly, I did what was correct. The article was a single sentence and another editor tagged it immediately. Literally within the same minute of creation. The article was sitting in the queue for a an hour and a half before I got to it. You should have had plenty of time to respond to the tag if you wanted to do so. You haven't yet shown me any verifiable evidence to illustrate notability for this person so I'm not quite sure why you believe I should undelete it...other than the fact that you want me to. IrishGuy talk 21:05, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Did you actually check? I put a note on the article's talk page saying I would be back in the next day or two to add more info. I don't sit editing wikipedia all day, I had other things to do or I would have been able to make a better start. According to WP:WMD I'm supposed to contact the administrator responsible to discuss the matter, but it doesn't seem to me that you're too interested, so I'll let you go. Ciotog 23:10, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
You believe that I am being unhelpful. I believe that you are being accusatory and rude towards me. First, you tell me that I should recreate the page "as a nice gesture" because apparently I was in the wrong to delete a one sentence article. Now you accuse me of not even bothering to read the article before I deleted it. WP:WMD also states: In every case, you should first make sure that the page is appropriate for inclusion in Wikipedia and, if it is an article, that its content is based on reliable sources. If it is not, your request will likely be unsuccessful. As I have already noted, thus far you have provided nothing at all about the subject being notable. Basically, you are telling me that I should undelete the article simply because you want me to. I'm going to need something more substantial than that. Does this meet WP:BIO? IrishGuy talk 23:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I wasn't asking if you read the article, I was asking if you checked the notability of the subject. Dr Jack Newman certainly does meet WP:BIO, despite the lousy 1 liner I started the article with. As I wrote on the talk page (did you happen to read that?) I said I was going to expand on it in the next couple of days. Instead of being tagged for speedy deletion, perhaps it could have been tagged {{nn-warn}} on the talk page first. I know it wasn't you who tagged it initially, but instead of deleting it you could have changed the tag. I don't think 1 1/2 hours is a terribly long time. Anyway, I'll be creating the article again in the next few days and I'll be sure to add more notability info than I had right off the bat (I could probably use parts of the initial paragraph here). I had spent some time looking for a doctor category, at least I know now not to bother with that. Anyway, don't worry about it - you're just following the rules. I tend to think that the notability of a subject shouldn't be based entirely on just what's already on wikipedia, but that's the way they're written. Ciotog 23:31, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Reverting User Talk Page

Dont revert my page anymore. Its mine. I want it blank. No more touch. Its very easy--Kanekutter05 23:02, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it isn't your talk page. You have no ownership over that page. Please don't blank legitimate warnings. IrishGuy talk 23:03, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

WP:AIV

It's great to see you making use of the extra buttons already! You've been block-conflicting me at AIV, haha. It's a great problem to have! Cheers gaillimhConas tá tú? 00:54, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm trying to dive right in and help with some backlogs. Still learning, though. :) IrishGuy talk 00:55, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Blocking

Thanks for the quick action on AIAV. I noticed that you disabled account creation for that particular user, though, and I wanted to make sure that it was a deliberate action on your part, rather than a case of "wrong button". It just seems kind of harsh to me to block someone from creating a new account over a WP:U violation. If they did something else block-worthy after I made the report, please feel free to disregard this, of course. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 01:38, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, that was an accident. I unblocked and then reset it. Thanks for brining it to my attention. IrishGuy talk 01:42, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Anytime. Thanks for doing admin-y stuff in the first place. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 01:50, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
LOL. I will try to be more effective in an admin-y capacity. :) IrishGuy talk 01:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

speedy deletion question

My record company told me that they posted my bio, but when I took a look I found that it had been speedily deleted by you. I'm a novice to Wikipedia, but in my quick scan of the rules I didn't see what was violated by their posting. They had my permission to use the bio from my website. Can you please explain, or maybe rescind the deletion?

Thanks, -Ken Field —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.76.174.100 (talk) 06:58, 27 February 2007 (UTC).

Can you tell me what the article was? IrishGuy talk 08:34, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure how to identify the article except that it was my bio, listed under my name, "Ken Field". Please let me know how I can be more specific. Your comment was that it was a copy of the bio that appears on my website kenfield.org, but it appears to me that this is permissible as long as there is permission from the copyright owner, i.e. me. On the other hand, I know practically nothing about how this works...

OK. I found it in the logs. It was deleted because it was a copyright violation. To allow permission, please see Wikipedia:Example requests for permission. Please let me know if there is anything else you need assistance with. IrishGuy talk 21:03, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. The poster of the article has not requested permission from me, but I would like to grant it none-the-less, since it is, of course, in my interest to have an article about me up on Wikipedia. The reference you sent above appears to be for posters/editors to request permission, though I should look more closely to see if I have missed something. Can I impose on you one more minute to find out if there a simple way that I can grant permission, and therefore have the article undeleted? Do I just send an email to permissions-en@wikimedia.org saying that I grant permission for the use of this content under the terms of GFDL? Will you then be somehow notified of the receipt of my permission so that you can rescind your speedy deletion of that article?

You should be able to email your permission to that address, yes. Once you receive confirmation, you can just drop me a line here and we will see what we can do. IrishGuy talk 21:32, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I have emailed my permission, but have not received any confirmation. However I noticed at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:COPYREQ that I can alternatively include the appropriate permission on the website itself, and I have now done so. Please let me know if I must take any further action to address the copyright issue that resulted in your speedy deletion, and thanks for your help. -Ken Field

OK. I saw the notice on your website so I went ahead and undeleted the article. As long as you keep the notice on your website, there shouldn't be a problem with the copyright. IrishGuy talk 05:46, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

speedy deletion of Armenian blogs article question

Hi Irishguy - you have just deleted an article prepared by me: Armenian blogs. I don't mind you deleting it - but would like to know the reasons, otherwise I am ready to restore it, if the deletion was accidental or without any particular purpose.

Thanx Angryroot

The article was nothing more than a list of links to blogs. It was speedy deleted as A3 - no content other than external links of whatever kind. IrishGuy talk 18:26, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Odd edit

Any insight on how it happened that you replaced another editor's warning msg with your apparently unrelated one? On whether the lost one should be restored with an annotation, in a more general annotation of the vandal's user-talk page? Tnx,
--Jerzy•t 16:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I honestly have no idea. All I can think of is that possibly I was scrolling down to the bottom to place a template warning and I accidently blanked something. IrishGuy talk 18:23, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

SILVERRUN

Hello, Within the last 24 hours I created a page "SILVERRUN" which you deleted shortly after. I conclude from the short reason (G11 advert) that you consider this page to be advertisement. As a consultant I have been asked many times by my clients why SILVERRUN is not represented in Wikipedia. Since I have known this software tool for quite a while, I decided to contribute following the pattern of the articles about "AllFusion ERwin Data Modeler", "PowerDesigner" and "ER/Studio". These software tools are direct competitors of SILVERRUN, the articles about them are obviously not considered to be advertisement. I will appreciate if you review your decision. Please let me know about your thoughts. Thank you --Paul Bassin 00:36, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

The bulk of your edits have been to put references to this product into various articles. The Silverrun article was spam. It was written as an advertisement because it was an advertisement. IrishGuy talk 00:52, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, what about the articles about "AllFusion ERwin Data Modeler", "PowerDesigner" and "ER/Studio"? Advertisement? No advertisement?--Paul Bassin 01:12, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Inclusion is not an indication of notability, validity, or quality. Some of those articles may deserve to be deleted too. Leebo86 01:17, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Although I appreciate your (Leebo) opinion that similar articles should be treated similarly, actually my contribution was not created to initiate the deletion of other articles. Moreover, products are part of our daily life, so I would like to see rather more inclusions than exclusions (as long as the statements in those articles can be proven). Since users of software tools are looking for comparison, those articles can grow and be improved by other users and thus be a great source for tool evaluation.--Paul Bassin 01:44, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

That may be true. I was simply pointing out that their mere existence has no bearing on your article. Leebo86 02:45, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
And, Irishguy, I apologize for hijacking your talk page. Leebo86 02:46, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
There is no hijacking going on here. Merely a discussion. I welcome your input, actually. :) IrishGuy talk 02:47, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

As mentioned previously, I consider products (may they be software, cars, etc.) to be part of our daily life, and those that I know sufficiently, I might feel tempted to write about. Coming back to the deleted "SILVERRUN" article - what would be the criteria for its content, style, length, categories etc. to be acceptable (at least as a basis that other users might want to elaborate further)? Any advice is appreciated. Thanks.--Paul Bassin 03:41, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Before we discuss the article, it sounds like you have a conflict of interest (the creators of SILVERRUN are your clients?). If that's the case, then we strongly discourage you from creating the article, or editing other topics to which you might be too close to retain a neutral point of view. Other than that, review the guidelines for software notability to see what makes a piece of software notable enough to have an article (in general). Leebo86 04:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Re-reading your statement, it doesn't sound like they're your clients. Still, make sure you don't have a conflict of interest before continuing. Leebo86 04:12, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Leebo, thank you for pointing me to the guidelines of software notability.--Paul Bassin 04:22, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Avesto

Hi,

You deleted this page, less that 30 minuts after the SD tag. Isn't it too speedy? I was busy with 4 other similar pages and I didn't have time to add content to it. Avesto is a popular music group in Tajikistan. Jahangard 03:27, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

A speedy is supposed to be speedy :)
That being said, the article didn't assert any level of importance or notability. That is why it was deleted. IrishGuy talk 03:29, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
OK. So, please also be speedy in removing SD tags from the other 4 articles: Shabnam Surayo, Afzalsho Shodiev, Feruza Jumaniyozova, and Shahrom Abubakr. Jahangard 03:46, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Wilkes Ultimate Frisbee

Hey Irishguy. My name is Greg and I am a student at Wilkes University. I was trying to create a page about the Ultimate Frisbee club here on campus on wikipedia, but you kept deleting it. I am a new user, so I didn't realize you deleted it a few times. That is why there are so many submissions. I was wondering what is wrong with that page. Maybe something needs too be added? Please let me know.

Greg —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gcas2006 (talk • contribs) 16:52, 28 February 2007 (UTC).

It is a non-notable local group. You can read more about notability criteria at WP:NOTE. IrishGuy talk 16:54, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

You have a fan club

[8]. – Steel 17:14, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I guess I'm flattered. IrishGuy talk 17:15, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello

First of all, I donot know what the heck you are talking about with the Odessey. And I would appreciate if you would not ever, ever, contact me again. I have never researched anything to do with the Odessey. You obviously have me confused with someone else. I donot mean to be insulting in any wy, although I certantly feel like being insulting. If I have insulted you in some way with this message, deal with it!!! But do not contact me again, ever! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.68.248.20 (talk • contribs)

If you are referring to the warnings on your talk page, I didn't leave that one for you. Please read WP:CIV before leaving messages like that again. Thanks. IrishGuy talk 23:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


???

Hi, you just deleted our bio which we were just putting up, and really have no idea how to use wikipedia properly. Our manager said it would be a good idea to put our biography into wikipedia because of the popularity we have in the caribbean. Xixgon also has a legitimate meaning and I personally would like the world to know it's not fake.. awaiting reply.. (Xixgon 00:20, 1 March 2007 (UTC))

It was deleted because it made no assertion of notability. Please read WP:BAND for information about the criteria for inclusion. IrishGuy talk 00:21, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

So if I follow those guidelines, will I be able to post it up? or will it be deleted, because i obviously did wrong the first time lol

It simply has to meet those guidelines and be properly sourced. Then there should be no problems. :) IrishGuy talk 00:24, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Any chance you could post the contents of this to User:Ryanpostlethwaite/xixgon? RyanPostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 00:26, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Cheers RyanPostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 00:30, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Are you simply interested in reading what the article stated? Are you familiar with the group and would like to flesh the article out? I'm just curious about your reasoning. IrishGuy talk 00:29, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I just want to work with the user to either try and show some notability or show them why it isn't notable, I've got my help a newbie on tonight :-) RyanPostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 00:31, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Sounds good. I hope you can help. IrishGuy talk 00:32, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

i guess i'll do it over properly, just gonna be kinda hard because there are no guidelines for dj groups..i'll work around it..thanks

The guidelines would be roughly similar: notability based upon media notices, record labels, etc. IrishGuy talk 00:29, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

i am one of the founders of the group..and have a really big caribbean fan base, we've travelled the world just to dj in clubs and parties, made friends with a lot of reggae artists and recorded a lot of music from them that we have written..the reggae dj world is culture within a culture and i would like to get that known in the world to anyone that is interested... i see it fit that if a singer like capleton ( a personal friend of mine) has a wikipedia bio, why not xixgon? thanks ryan, i think i need i know what i have to do...a lot more work=)

Sprotect

Have you considered Sprotecting your userpage? Think it might be appropriate! Cheers RyanPostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 01:20, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Looking at the history for just today, you may have a point. I should probably do that. Thanks for all the reverts. <fo



DONT EVER TOUCH MY PAGE AGAIN. - Seth Needle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sneedle30 (talk • contribs)

NOT A THREAT, A STATEMENT. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sneedle30 (talk • contribs)

When you create nonsense articles, they will be deleted. Please don't make angry threats about it. IrishGuy talk 20:11, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Kalliope Stage speedy deletion

I was wondering why you speedy deleted the article on Kalliope Stage. Everything on there was encyclopedic and nothing was in violation of any copyrights. There were multiple credible sources, as well as newspaper article links provided secondhand on the website i linked to. I neglect to see how this lacks notability. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Danielhoward (talk • contribs) 15:25, 2 March 2007 (UTC).

There were no references. There was a link to the official website, and a link to the cafe press store. It was an article about a non-notable group. IrishGuy talk 20:04, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


Stop That Show!

Stop That Show! is back. Still G11.--Twintone 21:45, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

You're an ignorant vandal

Please stop deleting valid re-directs when you know nothing about the subject matter. "Drink soaked former trotskyist popinjay" is a nickname given to Christopher Hitchens by George Galloway, and has widespread popularity all over the internet. Don't be so arrogant and obnoxious in your edits and messages when you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Popinjay999

Please read WP:CIV. I am not a vandal, nor are you being civil in using such language. Redirects for uncommon phrases are routinely deleted. You created eight of them. IrishGuy talk 22:48, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
There are 1,020 results on Google for drink soaked former trotskyite popinjay, and 507 for drink soaked former trotskyist popinjay. All of them are directly relevant to the redirect I posted. You need to research your facts before you delete valid pages. Popinjay999


And if anyone did a Wikipedia search for the term, it is already mentioned in the article. It doesn't require almost ten redirects. Once more, please read WP:CIV. IrishGuy talk 22:57, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Have you ever seen the debate between George Galloway and Christopher Hitchens? Or are you just an overzealous fascist mod, who needs to delete valid pages to feel big? The redirects I posted are a nickname for Christopher Hitchens, therefore should link directly to him. It's the same as "Dubya" linking to George W Bush, for example. You have no reason to delete them. Popinjay999
First, your research is faulty. A google search for that exact phrase nets a mere 21 unique hits. Second, as you seem to not care about civility, you will now garner yourself a formal warning. IrishGuy talk 23:02, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps you're spelling it wrong. I just copy and pasted "drink soaked former trotskyite popinjay" into Google, and got 1020 results. I can post screenshots if you don't get the same results. http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=drink+soaked+former+trotskyite+popinjay&btnG=Google+Search&meta= You can warn me all day, and I can revert. The article is valid. It is neither obscure, nor intrudes on another article. Popinjay999
If it was spelled incorrectly, the error was yours. I cut and pasted from one of the redirects you made. Threatening to remove valid warnings isn't a very good idea. IrishGuy talk 23:24, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Try using the exact phrase, not just all those words. You will find less than 25 unique hits. IrishGuy talk 23:10, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
You are including speech marks. My redirect did not include them, so neither should your google search. The result you will get is 1020. Popinjay999
Yes, within quotes (which is what makes it a phrase and not simply a search using all those words) you get a very small return. IrishGuy talk 23:14, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
By including speech marks, you cut out nearly 1000 valid results by making your seach needlessly specific. I could point out many search results that back this up, on-topic websites that were cut out because of your rather silly (and distorting) fetish for quotations, therefore proving you wrong. Popinjay999
It is a phrase and therefore should be searched as such, not simply a search for all those words. In any case, the redirects were not needed and hence their deletion. Continually badgering me and being un-civil will not gain you any ground. Please stop. IrishGuy talk 23:20, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
You have no care for the validity of the results of the google search, you are trying to prove a point. Compare your 21 results to the first three (for example) results that come up on my search. My results are valid, on-topic, and not just a random group of the words provided. They are all about the nickname that George Galloway gave Christopher Hitchens, and none of them appear on the 21 results that you claim are the only ones on the internet. You have discredited yourself by trying to defend such a silly point of view. In future, think before you edit. Popinjay999
Don't presume to know what my motivations are. I used a valid search for a phrase. You searched for five words. This is the last time I will warn you, please read WP:CIV before continuing in this manner. Actually, I see no point in continuing in this at all. Please stop harassing me on this talk page. IrishGuy talk 23:31, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
So you're saying that there are only 21 proper results for that search? Try looking at my search results, and think again. Popinjay999
I don't deny that it is a nickname, but not notable to be included as perhaps Dubya or Arnie redirects are. It has not been widely disseminated in the media as those mentioned above have. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RHB (talk • contribs) 23:47, 2 March 2007 (UTC).
It is as widely circulated as pretains to Christopher Hitchens as "Arnie" is to Schwarzenegger or "Dubya" is to George Bush, but Hitchens isn't as famous as the aforementioned political figures. Popinjay999

Email

Hey Irishguy, just to let you know I've emailed you, regards RyanPostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 00:00, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Um...

why do you keep deleting my band page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by AaronianKenrod (talk • contribs)

Because the band isn't notable. Wikipedia is not a venue to advertise your band. Please read WP:BAND for inclusion criteria. Thanks. IrishGuy talk 20:32, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

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damnit. :P —Preceding unsigned comment added by AaronianKenrod (talk • contribs)


Twigcallahan

Hi, I am trying to put together a wiki entry for a new webcomic. There are several other webcomics with their own wikipedia entry- why do you keep deleting mine? I am not attempting to advertise my site.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Twigcallahan (talk • contribs)

The webcomic isn't notable. Please read WP:WEB to learn about criteria for inclusion. Thanks. IrishGuy talk 20:45, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the misunderstanding- I'll be back once it gets up and running, thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Twigcallahan (talk • contribs)

No problem. I hope your webcomic prospers. :) IrishGuy talk 20:50, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Question

Can you please salt Jeremiah Kane? It's been created and deleted like six times in about 10 minutes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hojimachong (talk • contribs) 01:34, 4 March 2007 (UTC).

I just did, actually. :) IrishGuy talk 01:36, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Email?

Give me your e-mail and I'll stop I need to talk to you about it. TommyLudde 02:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I see no need to give you my email address. Your band article fails WP:BAND and adding insults about me when you recreate it isn't helping your cause. IrishGuy talk 02:50, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
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