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Vintagekits again

I've been in touch with Alison as you suggested, but haven't yet received a reply. Meanwhile Vintagekits has vandalised my talk page by writing some semi-literate heading and putting a green wiki-project sticker underneath it. How do I remove this please? I've tried to delete it but so far without success. Millbanks 10:44, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, someone's done the necessary, and I'm most grateful. I'm also grateful to Alison for her tactful interevention. Millbanks 19:18, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Artcle deletion

I just wanted to add the rticle of Noserubbing, it is a very short of simple concept of which there is no real way of padding it out as just a few lines would explain it.

What can I do to make the article acceptable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cexycy (talk • contribs)

Wikipedia isn't a dictionary, it is an encyclopedia. If there is no way to add to the article and illustrate context then this isn't the appropriate venue for that article. IrishGuy talk 02:09, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean by more context exactly? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cexycy (talk • contribs)

I mean that encyclopedia article must be more than a simple definition of a word. Examples. Use in media/popular culture. Things of that nature. IrishGuy talk 03:37, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


I'm not so sure the article you just deleted qualifies as 'patent nonsense'...
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Embrace_the_suck&action=edit
bad writing, perhaps. It was hardly jibberish or nonsense. metalworks 22:45, 10 November 2007 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Metalworks (talk • contribs)

Continual deletion of Jason Howell page.

Please stop yourself. This page is CLEARLY WITHIN ALL wikipedia standards. It is extremely frusturating to copy/paste the same code onto a page only to have to do it again. This person is admissable via WP:BIO AND WP:MUSIC standards, as per YOUR INSISTENCE during previous discussions. Tcardone05 talk 21:13, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

As per the previous discussion, this doesn't meet WP:BIO or WP:MUSIC. You agreed at the time and then simply waited a few days and started posting the article yet again. Stop. Wikipedia is not a venue for you to try and promote your friend. Enough. IrishGuy talk 00:56, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
My friend? SRSLY? That's a terrible argument and assumption. I've never met the guy. I'm arguing this to increase the valuable information on Wikipedia. The only time I've heard him is on a podcast. Tcardone05 07:30, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

You're really trivializing what tcardone05 is trying to do here. In using terms like "your friend" and "some guy who appears on a podcast," you condescend and belittle us and our efforts to oppose your unfair abuse of your privileges. I don't understand how you, or even the site as a whole, can definite important, popularity, or recognizability if that is all relative to the target audience for Jason's work. Erier2003 01:05, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

My unfair abuse of your privileges? Nice. As noted above, I explained all the relevant guidelines to him...so he simply waited a few days and did it again. That is abuse, not my deletion of a non-notable article. IrishGuy talk 01:08, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
As noted here tcardone admitted to reposting deleted material, so the speedy deletion still applies. Also none of the sources supplied are independent of the subject, or go beyond trivial mentions. - Optigan13 01:20, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Sources: San Francisco State News, the Podcast itself, Veronica Belmont blog, and the record labels' pages. Tcardone05 01:44, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Actually, that is incorrectly placed. That was the second draft, which was deleted by a different admin because he believed it was the same deleted material as the first page had. It did not. What is the reason that the page fails the Wiki "stringent" standards? Also, if you look in your own archive, I had responded and fixed the problems and waited for your response. After two days, you had not responded at all, so I redid the page and made sure it fit the guidelines. Here's the Google cache of the page that fits all standards: Google cache Tcardone05 01:30, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

As I noted before, it fails WP:MUSIC specifically Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable). Your constant responses were basically nothing more than saying "nuh-uh" so I finally stopped responding. IrishGuy talk 01:49, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
So having two records on Tarantic (major), Night Drive Music (major) AND being listed for five tracks on iTunes is an insignificant artist? How much more significant can you get than being on iTunes? I guess iTunes is "user-created" or something right? It's hard to be civil when a wiki admin cannot look at the facts and change his mind. Tcardone05 01:55, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Anyone can be on iTunes. That isn't a mark of notability. The simple fact that you personally declare Tarantic and Night Drive to be major independent labels isn't enough. IrishGuy talk 02:11, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Anyone can be on iTunes? Where's your proof for that? Apple chooses to carry his music AND label. You've said that before on previous conflicts, what do you have against the biggest music distributor?Tcardone05 02:16, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
The iTunes website itself. As well as CNET. Additionally, this service assists in the process. Anything else? IrishGuy talk 02:28, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

But don't worry - we will review your application and contact you if we are interested in including your music in the iTunes Store.

So not everyone. And citing a 2004 CNET article is testament to anybody's Googling skills. Additionally, his music is on Real's Rhapsody, Yahoo! Music, Napster, and eMusic. That's the top 5 digital distributors. And not EVERYONE can be on ALL of those.

Who decides what for "importance"? IMO, I don't think that Universal is a major label, yet everyone else might. The big problem here, Irish, is the fact that Indie bands/techno artists very rarely get signed by a really big label, so they end up with a smaller label such as Night Drive, Tarantic, or Jah Love. Yet their music, and lives, are as important as those few indie bands signed by the uber-big mainstream labels. Example: Rednetic Records. Small, yet they have released Mint (band)'s records. In fact, Night Drive, Jah Love, and Tarantic are definitely big enough to have their own, Wiki-compliant page, but no one's gotten around to it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.251.193.206 (talk • contribs)

This is ridiculous. What about the Wikipedia entries of Tom Merritt, Molly Wood, or Veronica Belmont? Besides CNET-related work, and their own personal blogs, where have they either published significant content or made an important contribution to some facet of life? And I don't see any secondary sources on their pages. I'm pretty sure I could find lots of other pages that aren't exactly adherent to Wikipedia's guidelines. Erier2003 02:41, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS isn't a valid argument. If you find other article that lack notability, feel free to tag them accordingly. IrishGuy talk 02:42, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS reads

This is an essay. It does not define a policy or guideline; it merely reflects the opinions of some of its author(s).—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.251.193.206 (talk • contribs)


What is the core of the problem with this page, and what can be done to fix it? Erier2003 02:54, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Or are you going to find something wrong with the article regardless? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.251.193.206 (talk • contribs)

not constructive?

Can you please explain how correcting the birth date error on the article Rose McIver is not constructive? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Macsnapper (talk • contribs) 03:09, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

You aren't correcting it. The date is sourced. IrishGuy talk 03:18, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

incorrect birth date Rose McIver article

I am trying to correct the incorrect birth date for Rose McIver article. If you regard IMDB as a 'source' for that info you may need to have it pointed out that IMDB are riddled with errors themselves. :-) trying to correct them is even more onerous than trying to correct wikipedia. I know Rose's birth date because I am her father. Please leave my edits alone. thank you Macsnapper 03:38, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

IMDB is a souce. An anonymous user claiming to be the subject's father isn't. IrishGuy talk 03:54, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

irony

alright, I'l leave it there. I sort of see your point. I do see the irony though that the refence accepted offers no references itself. ce la vie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Macsnapper (talk • contribs) 05:42, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Reply: George A. Romero's Living Dead series characters

Sorry about that. Lord Crayak 21:41, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

It's no problem at all, really. :) IrishGuy talk 21:52, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

THYAST

The Wiki for THYAST I am currently editing then you keep deleting before I am finished. Claming that this is advertising which it is not.This article is post all over the internet. I am working on the Wiki as was approved a while back. I am reformatting the layout to create a better look and feel. the article is a documentary. You are deliteing the content before I can complete the links for other locations within Wikipedia. --THYAST —Preceding unsigned comment added by THYAST (talk • contribs)

No, you are a singly purpose account that was created to promote Toni Cravens Bowling and the promotional articles you wrote in the past were deleted as well. If you have no intention of actually contributing to Wikipedia, find somewhere else to be. IrishGuy talk 19:41, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

West Briton

Please could you let me know who deleted my comments on the Discussion page on West Briton? These were about the fact that "Royal" is still used in certain instances here in Ireland (the Republic), and were at least as relevant as the message about Trinity. Millbanks 19:37, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

It appears that it was Vintagekits who blanked the section. IrishGuy talk 19:42, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I thought that it might have been, and it raises a serious point. On return from a period of being blocked, it seems that Vintagekits decided to look what someone he perceives as an adversary had been up to. He attacked me twice, once on Carrickfergus, where he challenged my figures. The challenge was answered, but I am being "reported". The other attack concerned the West Briton article, where I pointed out the minor anomaly that various insitutions in the Republic retain the prefix "Royal". Now most educated persons would, I think, agree that this might be a (harmless) manifestation of the West Briton concept (someone else has said this about Trinity and has not been attacked by Vintagekits or deleted). Vintagekits twice asked me why it was relevant, and I tried to explain. He then fell back on an old standby, "sources" which is fairly ludicrous since the institutions are well known, can be surfed, and are in the Dublin telephone book. He then deleted my entry.

This is, as I say, serious. As I've told you before, I have qualifications from two universities and over thirty years business expeience. The President of Dublin City University has commended my contribution in another (Irish) Forum. And yet here my contributions are attacked and deleted by a man like Vintagekits.

Where do we go from here? Millbanks 22:40, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
As I said before, to the best of my knowledge Alison is the admin who best keeps track of Vintagekits. Dropping her a line on her talk page about this might be the best avenue. Other then that, you could post on WP:ANI to get some other admins to look into the situation. IrishGuy talk 22:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
OK, thanks Millbanks 09:46, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
I wont drive a coach and horses through the nonsense that is written here - no evidence, no links, no diffs - no surprise! suffice to say I have replied here. IrishGuy - I except you to add your 2c over there and recount the problems that you have had with this editor over the same issue of using talk pages a a chat room.--Vintagekits 10:43, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

It's Doggy

What was I thanking? Dat's not even a real show. Sorry, blame it on me people. I didn't know what I was don'. Last time I did the same topic on another website and BAM! gone. I apoligize for my stupid it's Doggy idea. I couldn't think of anything other than that. Again sorry for wasting your time.

(Next time my page is going to be about...) HhHaaaaHHHaahha! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pomergirl (talk • contribs)

Firebird page

Hello, I'm ready to publish the Firebird page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Indofunk/firebirdtest) now. I didn't add any information since the last time you saw it, but if you could take a quick look at it again and make sure there are no Wiki violations, I'd appreciate it. Also, since it's meant to update the current Firebird page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firebird_%28trumpet%29), it would be bes tfor me to just edit that page and replace it with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Indofunk/firebirdtest, correct?

Thanks ... Indofunk 00:08, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

It looks like the only line in Firebird (trumpet) is the opening line for your version, so basically you can just add the rest of your version to the existing article. It looks good. Good job. :) IrishGuy talk 00:20, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Virus\

Edit conflict deletion! Ya got it before I could! Bearian 00:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. I can restore it if you really want to delete it. :) IrishGuy talk 00:33, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

My use of caps.

Thanks for the message, Irishguy. I wasn't aware that I was going against protocol. I apologize. I will familiarize myself with wikipedia and learn more before I edit anything else.

Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate it. Have a great day.

Matt —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kimbro1972 (talk • contribs) 05:38, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

It isn't a huge deal, it was just going against the MOS. I believe I fixed everything in the article so no harm done. :) IrishGuy talk 17:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Why

Why did you send me a last chance? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dur Dur Dur Dur Dur (talk • contribs)

Edits like these are unacceptable. IrishGuy talk 19:58, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Amarjit

Hi,

I notice following :

" 20:02, 13 November 2007 Irishguy (Talk | contribs) deleted "Amarjit" ‎ (CSD A7 (Bio): Biographical article that does not assert significance) "

Please can you do the needful not to delete this page.

Thank You —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amarjit2k (talk • contribs)

Wikipedia isn't MySpace. Please don't write articles about yourself. IrishGuy talk 20:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

When more info was being added it has relevant to history, Ok.

Thank You

Thank You —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amarjit2k (talk • contribs)

Please read WP:COI and WP:NOTE. IrishGuy talk 20:41, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I find tons of pur personal pages...

>>Wikipedia isn't MySpace. Please don't write articles about yourself. IrishGuy talk 20:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

few e.g: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lane_%28director%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lane

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amarjit2k (talk • contribs)

No. Those are articles about notable people and they weren't written by the subject. You are simply writing articles about yourself. Please stop. IrishGuy talk 20:45, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Here another one :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Dworkin

Please... if you search any name you will find it...

Thank You —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amarjit2k (talk • contribs)

If you aren't even going to bother reading my replies, please stop posting here. IrishGuy talk 20:47, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey, I just want to express my thanks for the time and effort you put forth protecting Wikipedia. I'd like to leave you a joke to hopefully brighten your day.


Hope you enjoy it, and happy editing. KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 03:53, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Ha! That one I've never heard. Cheers. :) IrishGuy talk 03:58, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Wiljaxon writes:

Hallo Irishguy you are famous for having been one of the few people to look at the Judytwoshoes entry which is facing extinction - in my view, naturally, a pity!

I have edited the page. Some observant person noted that I, the writer, was the bass player! Good for them!

It did cross my mind that you may have seen [Judytwoshoes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judytwoshoes] in action -pretty unlikely though. If you listen to the audio files (and Judy did have a terrible voice, but then so did many others at the time!) you will hear the Bristol rabble. I refuse to believe that you were one of them.

Bye for now and thank you for taking a break from your busy life to read this missive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiljaxon (talk • contribs) 10:53, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

For cleaning up my talkpage and blocking Chesus. Hammer1980·talk 15:47, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

No problem at all. IrishGuy talk 17:59, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Unblock of Lost Girls Diary

She's withdrawn all legal threats, so I think it would be okay to unblock her at this point. Any objections? --Haemo 19:53, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I won't stand in the way. Do what you feel is best. IrishGuy talk 20:01, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Question about a Revision of the Flying Squid Studios article.

Why was the mention of Geduld's attempt as stand-up omitted? While the page has been under attack as of late, this edit was properly cited. Here is the edit in question:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flying_Squid_Studios&oldid=171455483

Please ignore the actual vandalism present, I'm having trouble finding a link to a pure version of the revision. If this fact needs to be moved to another part of the article, let me know where to put it that it will be more appropriate.

Thanks! 69.41.96.25 23:44, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Video links to Google and YouTube are routinely removed as the copyright isn't clear. Beyond that, a brief foray into stand-up comedy is completely irrelevant to the article about the cartoon studio. IrishGuy talk 23:48, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Roman Catholic Church

What point is being made? That the Church suport science? -V3n0w 01:44, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

That there are historical arguments that the Church has supported science and other arguments that the Church hasn't. Cherry picking what information you personally want in the article isn't encyclopedic. IrishGuy talk 01:48, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
And you picking is? So let me put the arguments that the church hasn't support science because there isn't any on the article. Only some enlightenment philosophers think that the church hindered the progress of science? No scientists think that? -V3n0w 02:13, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
I didn't "pick" anything. I reverted the removal of a sourced claim. IrishGuy talk 02:17, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Than I will write some statement and source to my homepage. That is what Catholics are doing with the article, linking to their homepage. In fact, EVEN the source ins't sure about that. -V3n0w 02:28, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
OK. At this point you definitely need to read WP:NPOV, WP:CIV, and WP:ATTACK. IrishGuy talk 02:41, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
I think you need more than me. -V3n0w 02:43, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
After this and this not to mention your rudeness above...seriously, read and abide by the civility guidelines. IrishGuy talk 02:50, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Rudeness? You reverted my article without justifying and I'm rude? What about the Reliable sources? -V3n0w 02:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Did you read WP:OWN? It isn't your article and you are clearly attempting to push your own POV into Catholic articles. Stop and read the guidelines. Until you can be civil, don't post here. IrishGuy talk 02:58, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
What about this: "Contributors often are members of opposing communities who wish to have their viewpoints included in articles. Synthesizing these views into a single article creates a better, more NPOV article for everyone." ? I'm not saying that the article is mine, that's a fallacy. -V3n0w 03:02, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Your exact words were You reverted my article. IrishGuy talk 03:03, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
I was clearly refering to my edit. -V3n0w 03:09, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Blocks

Thans for the follow up. I've blocked the account. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 00:03, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

No problem. I wasn't sure what the issue was so I didn't want to step on any toes by doing it myself. :) IrishGuy talk 00:14, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again.

Hi IrishGuy, I just read your kind response to my message. I'm learning, my friend. Your initial message to me was good for me. I've been familiarizing myself with the MOS and today, learned to cite sources for the first time!

It's nice to talk to a fellow editor. Please let me know if there's ever anything I can do for you. Thank you for your encouragement.

Matt —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kimbro1972 (talk • contribs) 06:02, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

No problem at all. I hope you enjoy wikipedia. :) IrishGuy talk 19:54, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi!

I just added a link to the official Alice Faye website on her page, and it was pulled. Any idea why? It would be of great help to anyone doing research on her! Thanks!

Sarah —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alice faye (talk • contribs)

It appears to be nothing more than a fansite that has arbitrarilly declared itself official. That may be why the link was removed. IrishGuy talk 22:30, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

But isn't that the kind of site wikipedia wants? It has a great biography, etc. The other external links on her page don't seem to be too "official" to me. Thanks for your help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alice faye (talk • contribs)

A fan site isn't a reliable source. Please see the guidelines at WP:EL for more information. IrishGuy talk 18:45, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks...and sorry to bother you again, but if I simply put "pictures of Alice Faye" can I link to alicefaye.com? I just don't understand why other websites can be linked too like the one that is titled "pictures of Alice Faye." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alice faye (talk • contribs) 00:49, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Dada vandalism.

So now, I guess we can call that guy the aptly-named "Sir I has not an account". Bad joke, I know, but good work on blocking that guy so quickly. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 04:20, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

When a first edit is vandalism with the edit summary of hey, why is this page still protected?, you know that editor isn't long for Wikipedia. :) IrishGuy talk 18:22, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Quite so! ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 05:37, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Edits

Hello,

Sorry if my edits seemed a little opinionated. That was not my intention, although I do tend to err on the critical side where celebrities are concerned.

Sincerely, Pleasant Peter —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pleasant Peter (talk • contribs)

so

So i have re done the article with sufficient sources. then othe rpeople can help improving it with other sources etc etc--Chineseguy21 (talk) 20:34, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks so mutch for any help with that article. I hope we will get along on many articles in the future since you are a great editor.--Chineseguy21 (talk) 20:57, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

username

i am Sean Mathias and so picked the username Seanmathias. i would prefer it to be Sean Mathias. can this be changed? also when i google my name on the web wikipedia comes up on page 2 as result number 12. i would like it on page one and higher up theresult list. how can i acheive this? many thanks, Sean —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seanmathias (talk • contribs) 21:57, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

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