Template talk:User Northern Cyprus

This template was considered for deletion on 2007 July 17. The result of the discussion was "keep".

This should be deleted since it represents an illegal ocupation of cyprus by turkey. There are only 3 countries who recognise the ocupation as a seperate state. I dont no how to do it though so ill leave it to an admin. --Slogankid 16:58, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We dont need to know that is it legal or illegal. Northern Cyprus is accepted as legal by Turkey or OIC; and illegal by rest of the world. Southern Cyprus (Cyprus) is also illegal for Turkey. This area is controlled by a state named Northern Cyprus; so we have to define it. Since it is legal or illegal by your reference. Kaygtr 19:03, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Point I'm making is why have thistrnc userbox. I am from Famagusta, now occupied by turkey and considered as trnc by turkey but dnt consider myself from trnc. Should be merged with cyprus as just cyprus. You clearly have a biased pov coming from turkey. I am from what would now be called "trnc" . I also know for a fact that only 3 countries think that it is legal not the oic as u suggested.--Slogankid 16:58, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This should be deleted immediately

The nation called "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" is not a legal nation and is not accepted by the 98% of the countries worldwide and the United Nations. The turks occupied the northern side of cyprus by killing or sending away many of the cypriots who were there and until today this "nation" is under a constant military dictatorship. So this userbox MUST be deleted immediatelly. --KaragouniS 16:57, 19 October 2006

This is not the page of United Nations, or etc. Here is Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. We don't ask your opinion about the government system of TRNC. (p.s think about military dictatorship again; both Turkey and Northern Cyprus are independent, democratic nations) Kaygtr 18:38, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Listen my friend, as far as no nation of the UN recognizes this illegal (and ofcourse NOT INDEPENDENT) "nation" you created (by forcing thousands of Cypriots EITHER TO LEAVE their fatherland or to kill them), the name "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" DOES NOT EXIST. Encyclopedias as far as I know (and I suppose you also do know) are mainly based on REAL and ΑCCEPTABLE BY EVERYONE facts. This "nation" is acceptable only by Turkey, so it has no place in here as far as Cyprus is ONE NATION and not TWO.

I have every right to express my opinion about anything. Everyone knows that the Turkish Army is the main ruler of your country (remember the words of Bülent Ecevit) and that is one serious reason that EU declines your membership (except the disrespect you show on human rights). Think of what I wrote and you'll see that I'm right ;) --KaragouniS 20:25, 19 October 2006

I am not a member of Turkish government, or army, or anything. Please stop calling me "you did, you created...".

There is a state called TRNC (democratic or not - accepted as legal by UN or not), which governs the northern portion of the island; so that's the fact. That means, we have to define this entity. ( Did you know? Current Southern Cyprus government accepted as illegal by Turkey and TRNC. Let's delete any information about Southern Cyprus!)

Sorry, my friend, but your opinions are fanatic and nationalist and can not be a reason for deleting this userbox. Kaygtr 21:49, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't call me FANATIC, my friend. Your government shows every kind of fanatism about Greeks & Cypriots. It's truth and we know it all. The fact is "TRNC" is not a independent nation but a part of a UN recognised nation. This part is being held illegaly for over 30 years. So we must not refer to "TRNC" as a nation (which btw is controlled and ruled by Turkey), but as the conquered part of Cypriot Republic. Imagine someone invades in your house and requests you and your family to leave and give him the possesion of the house without any further conversation. Would you give it to him? --KaragouniS 11.40, 19 October 2006

This should be deleated, because the section of the treaty in which Turkey ruled it legal to invade Cyprus was deemed illigal by the UN. Also this is a question for you all you Turks out there my great grandmother just dies last week and she can't be buried with her husband who is in the north, also i have never seen my great grandfathers grave because the Turks won;t let us and my family had millions of dollars in Famagusta which you people so rudely took, and you people think that is humane and legal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gophillysports (talk • contribs) 00:10, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

KaragouniS removes the category dedicated to this template without any reason, except nationalist complaints. Please do not do that, it is enough. Kaygtr 10:16, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

why don't you answer the question I've posted above?

There is no question. You should get your answers in the talk page of Northern Cyprus article, my friend. Your political view can not be a reason for deleting this template or category. TRNC does exist, legal or illegal, it does exist. And I know that there are users from TRNC. Please, do not continue. Kaygtr 10:20, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You are just a typical troll. You were lost for months and today you came up (15/7 - the coup d'etat against makarios in Cyprus). And BTW, this playground called TRNC does not exist :) --KaragouniS 10:24, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, I was here. Exactly, i do not know the date of coup d'etat, it is a good coincidence. I see, we won't come to an agreement. TRNC does exist, and this category will exist too. Kaygtr 10:27, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why you don't admitt it? You destroyed the lives of thousands Greek Cypriots by taking their homes and their lives. And now you are prepared to do the same thing in Iraq. You can't deny what I say, because IT IS TRUTH--KaragouniS 10:32, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Trust me, my friend, I did not killed anybody :) Your point is wrong: You talk about the 1974 operation, however, the place to talk about it is the talk page of TRNC article. Go and explain your view there. Understood? This is just a "user template" about someplace called TRNC. And about Iraq, I think we both know which country destroyed the lives of innocent Iraqis. Kaygtr 10:36, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You haven't killed anyone but you fathers did. In both cases you took the chance to "steal" the ground of other nations. --KaragouniS 10:39, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Still you do not understand what I mention. This is not the place to discuss about legality of TRNC. Use the talk page of TRNC article. Kaygtr 10:45, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

yeah right, avoid the truth. --KaragouniS 10:48, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I dont. We can continue on the TRNC talk page. Not here. It is simple. :) Now I add the category again. I think now we understand each other. Kaygtr 10:51, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, what an edit war was that? Guys, you recognise you ought to have been blocked both for this, right? Stop it, now. Karagounis, if you want to get rid of the category, please take it to WP:CFD. And do stop vandalising the template with inflammatory images. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:31, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just one comment: TRNC does exist and it is declared a "free" republic by the Freedom House. Besides, the current government expressed their willingness towards a unified Cyprus as they did in 2004, THE TIME WHEN GREEK CYPRIOTS REJECTED THE UN SPONSORED UNIFICATION PLAN. So the reason why TRNC has been existing to this day is because the Greek Cypriots rejected the unification plan. So, Karagounis (by the way your name means Kara Gün (Black Day) in Turkish - many Greek surnames have Turkish origins!!) stop blaming us Turks - Turkish Cypriots and try to promote more concrete ideas which will eventually lead to peace and unification in the island. Let's hope that the new Greek Cypriot president will pioneer such endavour. And lastly did I tell you that the European Union has been assisting the Turkish Cypriot Administration so that it can harmonise its institutions and laws with those of the EU??? If there is no TRNC, whom does the EU give the assistance? ;)) Wikiturk (talk) 13:53, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The dispute on this subject has been resolved (?) and personally I'm not willing to continue arguing with you turkish folks for things you don't want to understand. By the way, although my real surname is NOT karagounis, I have to inform you that karagounis is arvanitic, not turkish. Greets --KaragouniS (talk) 14:36, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

TfD nomination of Template:User Northern Cyprus

Template:User Northern Cyprus has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — KaragouniS 14:10, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]