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Huwara Shooting

An editor has repeatedly tagged the 2023 Huwara shooting with the yellow to indicate that it was done by a Palestinian from the West Bank, when the key sources in that article are pointing out that the shooter had not yet been identified, and even the lower quality sources calling him a Palestinian are not identifying from where. As such, this marking should be removed. (Whether we should be putting a special flag to identify that specific subset of perpetrators is a question worth asking... seems inappropriate, just as a "crimes by Jews" marking in some other article would be inappropriate.) --Nat Gertler (talk) 01:05, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nablus

The 2023 Nablus attack does not belong on a template of attacks against Israelis, as Israelis were not attacked. --Nat Gertler (talk) 01:17, 21 March 2023 (UTC) Also, of course, is the fact that the major sources do not describe it as a terrorist incident. If there's a template for events that aren't terrorist attacks and aren't against Israelis, perhaps this belongs there. -Nat Gertler (talk) 01:08, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tel Aviv attack

Someone has repeatedly inserted 2023 Tel Aviv attack, despite the fact that the motive is not known and thus we cannot say it's a terrorist attack. I recommend removal. --Nat Gertler (talk) 22:09, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong. It was a terror attack. On a different note, somebody should create an article for the shooting attack that killed the two sisters from Efrat.--2A06:C701:439A:9B00:4CDC:AB3F:2C83:A541 (talk) 23:43, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Did you read the source you used? It talks of increased suspicions that it was a terrorist attack... which means it is not known to be such. Even if it turns out to be ruled terrorism, it was not an attack against Israelis, which is what this template is for; all of injured or killed were of other nationalities. --Nat Gertler (talk) 20:53, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed - the fact that none of the victims of the 2023 Tel Aviv car-ramming were Israeli means that it doesn't meet the description of the template. Jim 2 Michael (talk) 01:29, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I will tint your comment (and mine) a bit by noting that there was an Israeli killed during the incident as a whole, but that was the driver who was killed by police. I do not think that we are intending to refer to that killing as a "terrorist incident". -- Nat Gertler (talk) 20:00, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Conversion to TemplateStyles

This template has been converted to use WP:TemplateStyles in revision 1180506372. This is part of an ongoing project to convert all templates in this series to use a common stylesheet, in order to standardize the colors and style across all of the templates. The conversion removes all style attributes from the template, replacing it with class attributes, thus separating all questions of style (color, background, font characteristics, spacing, etc.) from the template and relegating them to a common stylesheet instead. The template should render identically to the way it did before, and viewers should see no change on article pages. (As the stylesheet is updated, this may change. Please post comments about style below.) This will make color and other style adjustments much easier to perform going forward. This change is being propagated to the other templates in the series, and any inconsistencies in style among the templates should be worked out below. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 04:13, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Mathglot I'm opposed to any usage of colors, but regardless, did you check to make sure they pass MOS:COLOR? There are two things there, the contrast level and that color isn't the only way you are conveying information. As far as I can see, in both cases this fails at the moment. Gonnym (talk) 10:53, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Gonnym: I didn't; I came upon this from a different angle, which was concentrating strictly on the technical aspect of removing color and other customized style from this template, and moving it to the separate TemplateStyles page. Secondarily, I tried to build on that in order to unify styles from a set of related templates from different decades. I'm not a regular at these templates, and I'm agnostic as to what colors there should be, or even if there should be any; I only landed here from some watchlist article notif I got which brought me here. My plan was, to isolate all the style in TemplateStyles, and then let the regulars work out the color and any other style issues on their own; I probably wouldn't even offer an opinion, other than about technical support. (I did comment somewhere about two colors being nearly indistinguishable.) So, I'd defer any decision about colors or other style to the principal editors of this and related templates. Probably they should all be pinged and have a group discussion about that; that would be the ideal time, imho, to remind them about MOS:COLOR and any other relevant guidelines. Now that style is (mostly) unified in TemplateStyles, it's far easier to change now, than it was before. (The missing part is the "legend" below the links; those are not converted yet; not for any technical issue, I simply turned to something else.) Thanks for raising this, as when they do get together, MOS:COLOR should clearly be part of the discussion. Mathglot (talk) 17:23, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Add Death of Benjamin Achimeir into the 2020s section MF4412 (talk) 07:54, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done Seeing as this wasn't proven to be a terrorist attack let alone proven to be perpetrated by any of the entities listed in the navbox, this shouldn't be added (at least not yet). ~ Eejit43 (talk) 02:51, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Adding the 2024 Nablus attack to the template. Taloris (talk) 13:24, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cannot do at this point. That article is now in draft space, having apparently been created by an editor who does not meet our requirements for editing on this topic. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 15:00, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

POV

Please change the template title to an NPOV like "Political violence against Israelis in the 2020s" Gamalny (talk) 00:35, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]