Template talk:Tennis events 2

Colours

The colour combination in the header of this template on 2005 Movistar Open – Doubles is unreadable (MOS:COLOUR refers). How can this be fixed? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:57, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Looks like every tournament has its own colours: Template:Infobox_tennis_event/color. And because tournament is held in Chile, this is a Chilean colour. But yes, this colour is not best possible. --Stryn (talk) 21:08, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Presumably this also applies to {{Tennis events}}? It certainly needs to be changed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:19, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes. I changed colours. Now I think it's better. --Stryn (talk) 21:30, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. It's a little better but it still doesn't meet the WCAG luminosity criteria laid down in MOS:COLOUR - and we need to check all the other colour combinations, also. For example, 2007 Austrian Open – Singles, 2007 Dutch Open – Singles, 2007 Thailand Open – Singles, 2007 Torneo Godó – Singles, 2007 Open Gaz de France – Singles & 2007 Davidoff Swiss Indoors – Singles all fail at "AA" level and 2007 If Stockholm Open – Singles & 2007 St. Petersburg Open – Singles at the more demanding "AAA" level. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:17, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes. With so many colors it will be impossible to make every contrast compliant. I don't believe the average reader needs those colors, I think it's purely decorative. Thus it can be removed safely. Or we could choose one single color - with a good contrast. Yours, Dodoïste (talk) 20:36, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

The colors of about 50 tournaments have been updated to make them (both infobox and navbox) WGAC 2.0 AA level compatible i.e. at least a 4.5 contrast ratio (Colour Contrast Check). See Template:Infobox tennis event/color: Revision history. That should cover at least 90-95% of the tournaments if not more. The colors did not appear to have any informational value and that is something to be improved but the readability / accessibility issue is fixed on at least AA level (give or take a few tournament that may have been overlooked). --Wolbo (talk) 22:23, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I should have noticed the changes. Many thanks Wolbo, this is a great improvement. All the contrast changes I checked in the revision history showed a radical improvement. I've made a few remaining contrast improvements. Cheers, Dodoïste (talk) 23:05, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

AAA level compliance

Yes, thank you for doing this. Is there any reason we can't go for AAA compliance, though? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:00, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Andy, in principle there's no reason why full AAA-level compliance can't be achieved, it's just that I could not always find a good AAA level color and gave priority to making sure that at least AA-level compliance was achieved. Also bear in mind that the AA-level compliance was for the navboxes (with blue hyperlink text), the infoboxes for those articles (with black text) will almost certainly be AAA-level compliant. --Wolbo (talk) 16:02, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Andy, the standard approach is to aim for AA level compliance. AAA is considered to be a bonus that is not always relevant nor possible to achieve. In this case, AA level is perfect. Dodoïste (talk) 16:34, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

That's not my understanding; and I've not seen it written down anywhere Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:42, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Every conferences about accessibility I've attended to stated that AA is the level websites should aim for. Think of A level as the most important priority, and of AAA level as the lowest priority. See W3C Understanding Conformance Requirements: "It is not recommended that Level AAA conformance be required as a general policy for entire sites because it is not possible to satisfy all Level AAA Success Criteria for some content."

Other references explain it more clearly. "Must conform to A level, should conform to AA level, may conform to AAA level." See What are Single A, AA and AAA conformances? and Australia’s first AAA Accessible website. Cheers, Dodoïste (talk) 08:14, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you; I'm very familiar with such matters. I'm not proposing we try to achieve AAA across the whole site (that way lies madness); I was asking with specific reference to Wikipedia; I'm also asking why we wouldn't aim to achieve it in this specific case, for colour contrasts in this template, when it is possible for us to do so. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:56, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, from such a distance it's hard to tell what you already know and what you don't. Please don't take it personally.

Well, we "could" from a technical point of view, of course. In order to do this, the set of color will have to be reduced, and the colors will be very faint - hard to notice and differentiate from one another. It would make sense to choose one single color, or no background color at all. In any case, we would have to discuss this change with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Tennis, at the very least. I'm just cautious; this might become a long debate for a small improvement. Dodoïste (talk) 22:39, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Disambiguating links

In articles such as 2004 BellSouth Open – Doubles, the TennisEvents2 template links to BellSouth Open. However, this is a now a disambiguation page. The links should be re-pointed to Chile Open (tennis). Is there a good way to do this? Nick Number (talk) 16:32, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Fixed. Bit of a template/redirect mess, proverbial pain in the backside. --Midas02 (talk) 17:18, 1 July 2015 (UTC)