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Requested move 21 November 2016

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The result of the move request was: Not moved — Amakuru (talk) 15:07, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template:JEF United Ichihara Chiba → Template:JEF United Chiba – Talk:JEF United Chiba#Requested move 19 October 2016 Gonta-Kun (talk) 08:06, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The article was renamed in accordance with WP:COMMONNAME, which applies only to mainspace. Since "JEF United Ichihara Chiba" is the correct full name of the professional football club and not an "incorrect name", there is no need to rename this template. This was mentioned along with no need to rename Category:JEF United Ichihara Chiba in the closing statement; however the nominator of this template move went ahead and moved the category unnecessarily. I could move the category back to the correct full name, but I am concerned that would be misuse of the page mover right. Paine ^u/c 00:58, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 4 April 2018

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The result of the move request was: moved as requested, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 10:39, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:JEF United Ichihara Chiba → Template:JEF United Chiba – This club name is JEF United Chiba. Gonta-Kun (talk) 08:17, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This ~~appears uncontroversial~~ and a move from the requested title was performed by cut and paste in 2011, so I am putting this through to merge histories. Dekimasuよ! 17:54, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- In light of the previous discussion above, I am moving this back to the stable title for the rest of the discussion period now that I have merged the histories. Dekimasuよ! 18:00, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- User:Paine Ellsworth, do you have any objection to just letting this go through this time? Dekimasuよ! 20:06, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for asking, Dekimasu! The question I would ask is just how stable is the article title? (Ref. here and here) It was moved to its present title three times in ten years, the most recent move in 2016, about 17 months ago. My concern is not what these pages are named, my concern is that we do not want the Wikipedia category (already renamed), the Commons category and this template jumping around from title to title. ~~In this case, I have to continue to oppose, because~~ I would want the article title to be more stable with at least two years at the same name; however, I would certainly go with the consensus that results from this debate. Paine Ellsworth ^put'r there 00:42, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would be inclined to think that the article title is stable just because the current title was established by a move request at Talk:JEF United Chiba, but thanks for your reply. Dekimasuよ! 22:26, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Another issue to keep in mind is that there are three possible names for this club. Per the article:

JEF United Ichihara Chiba (full name)
JEF United Chiba (probably the COMMONNAME)
JEF Chiba (how common is this one?)

So as concerns this issue and the other reasons already stated, we see that long-term stability of the title may or may not be attained as yet. Do English reliable sources help us out on this? The nom, Gonta-Kun, might want to confirm it. Paine Ellsworth ^put'r there 02:22, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Dekimasu. I think that the article title is stable. I already showed some sites at Talk:JEF United Chiba. --Gonta-Kun (talk) 12:59, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I've struck my oppose !vote, and thank you for reminding me of those sources. From this point if Dekimasu concurs, this can be considered a tech move as far as I'm concerned. I'll go ahead and rename the three Commons categories. Paine Ellsworth ^put'r there 18:06, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This sounds fine–thanks for your flexibility. Dekimasuよ! 10:38, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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