Template:Did you know nominations/Zenock
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by BorgQueen (talk) 14:00, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
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Zenock
- ... that the Book of Mormon name Zenock is misspelled? Source: "wrote inline the correct Zenoch, undoubtedly prompted by Joseph Smiths spelling out of the name, letter by letter. The name Zenoch parallels the spelling of the biblical name Enoch. But when he copied the text into P[rinter's manuscript], Oliver Cowdery replaced Zenoch with Zenock, and the current text has systematically ended up with the incorrect spelling." From Royal Skousen, "Some Textual Changes for a Scholarly Study of the Book of Mormon", BYU Studies Quarterly 51, no. 4 (2012): 115.
- ALT1: ... that compared to the original manuscript, the Book of Mormon name Zenock is misspelled? Source: Identical to ALT0
- ALT2: ... that Zenock, a prophet figure described in the Book of Mormon, is unfamiliar to many Mormons? Source: "The popularity of certain names in the Book of Mormon and the unpopularity of others might easily be explained by familiarity borne out of frequency. The first time I met Shule and his brother Zenock, I did not even recognize their names as Book of Mormon names immediately. I was raised in the LDS Church, am currently a member, and have read the Book of Mormon, yet it took me more than a few minutes to pinpoint where I had heard the names before. I certainly had not heard the names because anyone else I knew was named Shule or Zenock." From Jennifer R. Mansfield, " 'It's Wraylnn—with a W': Distinctive Mormon Naming Practices", MA thesis, Utah State University, 2012.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lords of the Earth
- Comment: I noticed that when I run the DYK check, there's a result stating that the page has not been 5x expanded. However, the character count is 10,671. Before expansion began, the page was 2,112 characters long which means the 5x expansion threshold was crossed at 10,560 characters.
5x expanded by Hydrangeans (talk). Self-nominated at 16:50, 18 December 2022 (UTC).
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Hook eligibility:
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- weird wording.
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@Hydrangeans: Good article. However, the hook seems weirdly worded. With what it says, it makes it seem as if the name zenock is an alternate name for the book of mormon rather than the name of a nonbiblical prophet. So a hook rewording would be great. Onegreatjoke (talk) 17:01, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Onegreatjoke: Thanks for reviewing the nomination. I confess I'm struggling to see the confusion; the phrase "Book of Mormon name Zenock" is meant to parallel phrases like, say, "the biblical name Enoch", i.e. it's a name that comes from the Book of Mormon. But if it's confusing, then here are some attempted rephrasing:
- ALT3: ... that the name Zenock is misspelled in almost every published edition of the Book of Mormon?
- ALT4: ... that the nonbiblical prophet Zenock's name is misspelled in almost every published edition of the Book of Mormon?
- ALT5: ... that the Book of Mormon prophet Zenock's name was originally spelled Zenoch?
- ALT6: ... that in the Book of Mormon, the name of the prophet Zenock is misspelled?
- ALT7: ... that while transcribing the Book of Mormon, Oliver Cowdery misspelled the name Zenock?
- What do you think? Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 18:12, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
Those are fine so approve. Onegreatjoke (talk) 22:56, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
