Template:Did you know nominations/Ulrike Liedtke

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:45, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Ulrike Liedtke

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Ulrike Liedtke in 2019

~~... that the musicologist Ulrike Liedtke (pictured), who founded and directed the Rheinsberg Music Academy, became president of the Brandenburg parliament in 1919?~~ Source: several

Reviewed: ~~to come~~

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 22:38, 5 June 2020 (UTC).

Hi Gerda Arendt, I'll take a look at this one. Some initial comments: "1919" should be "2019" in the hook; there are references missing (eg in the third paragraph of "Politics" and the second half of "Honours"); the list of publications is not verifiable as it is (some are missing ISBNs); Reference 19 states "Bundespräsidialamt" and no other information?; the bulk of the article is referenced to her own website, which I think violates WP:SELFSOURCE. Could you take a look and let me know what you think? - Dumelow (talk) 08:41, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

I've just noticed that the image source is only given as [1] which is the main page of the Social Democratic Party of Germany in Brandenburg and upon which the image doesn't appear - Dumelow (talk) 08:45, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that the musicologist Ulrike Liedtke (pictured), who founded and directed the Rheinsberg Music Academy, became president of the Brandenburg parliament in 2019?

for all more, I'll need a few days (having dear real company). LouisAlain? For the image: I guess the party has a new pic every period. The whole thing is a translation from the German Wikipedia, about which I know little. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:53, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Dumelow, please look again. I made two of the external links to references, replacing most of Lebenslauf, which now sources things such as which choirs she joined as a young woman. The publications could be sourced to the German National Library if needed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:11, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Paulina de la Mora. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi Gerda Arendt, I don't mind the SELFSOURCE for things like the choirs and her family life but I don't think we can take it as RS for the following claims:

"She also wrote numerous reviews for the Leipzig and Magdeburg regional press."
"She was responsible for the concept and editing and presented a series of broadcasts on New Music (21 broadcasts until 1997)."
"She wrote contributions to standard works including Komponisten der Gegenwart, The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musician and Die Musik in Geschichte und Gegenwart. She has been a member of the Verband deutscher Schriftstellerinnen und Schriftsteller since 1999"

Other than that it's looking good. RS for the publications would be good and I'll AGF on the image -

Thank you. I'll see after looking at the rest of the watch list. Writing for the regional press is something very easily achieved, - I mean, even I do that, and now they even publish my name with it - but can be dropped altogether. We can drop the 21 broadcasts on new music if we won't find a better source, but it would be a sadder loss. I hope I'll get the entries to the dictionaries sourced (with the publications), because that seems a crucial fact. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:57, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

I added now the contribs to online encyclopedias KdG and Grove, missing only the line about MGG. I am sure she wrote these also, see [2] but have no access, and am too lazy to search for three more composers, - other jobs waiting. All entries miss a year though, but how about believing she has them right ;) (Seems more important that they are still online, decades later.) - So Verband and broadcaster open, will see. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:22, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Gerda Arendt. Looking again, I think I am happy with the selfsource for the Verband membership so just the broadcasts really. Other than that, good to go - Dumelow (talk) 09:28, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

I looked but can't find the broadcasts, no surprise actually so much later. You decide if you believe her those also, or just drop that fact. While it was important at rather the beginning of her career, her engagement for contemporary composers shows enough in what she did later. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:32, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

No problem, if its challenged that sentence can always be removed. AGF tick for offline hook source - Dumelow (talk) 10:02, 29 June 2020 (UTC)