Template:Did you know nominations/The Holocaust in Italy
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:26, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
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The Holocaust in Italy
[edit]... that more than 694 Italians risked their lives to save Jews during the Holocaust in Italy? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)ALT1:... that a key perpetrator of the Holocaust in Italy was not prosecuted because he claimed not to know that Auschwitz was an extermination camp? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)ALT2:... that Italy refused to deport its Jewish population until September 1943?ALT3:... that, although the Holocaust in Italy lasted for only a year and a half, twenty percent of Italian Jews were murdered?ALT4:... that twenty percent of Italian Jews were murdered in only a year and a half?
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Converted from a redirect by Turismond (talk). Nominated by Catrìona (talk) at 06:24, 26 September 2018 (UTC).
New enough, long enough, fully referenced. In view of the sensitivities, I am subjecting the hooks to a more rigorous test than usual:
- Main hook: The criteria for the Righteous Among the Nations are very strict, and so the hook, while arguably correct, may cause some offence. Stricken.
- ALT1: This is not correct, and not supported by the article, which says that he was prosecuted. Stricken.
- ALT2: This is sort of correct, but the article explains it better, and it implies that Italy agreed to afterwards, which isn't really the case. Stricken.
- ALT3 and ALT4: According to the figures presented, 16% not 20% perished. Also, as the article points out, what we meant by "Italian Jews" is uncertain here; the article talks (correctly) about Jewish people in Italy, many of whom were not Italian. Stricken.
- How about:
- ALT6: ... that 694 Italians have been recognised as Righteous Among the Nations for risking their lives to save Jews during the Holocaust in Italy?
- Also: the prose badly needs the attention of a copy editor before it reaches the front page. In particular, "trialled" is used throughout the article, but it means a trial such as is used for a new medicine or procedure. You want "tried", which is about a legal trial.
- Hawkeye7 (discuss) 10:26, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Hawkeye7: I have changed the three instances of trialled I found in the article to tried. As far as the copy edit goes, I fully agree. As you have probably guessed I'm not a native English speaker so my ability with English prose are strictly limited. Turismond (talk) 10:46, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- I have no objection to ALT6. Should I list the article with Guild of Copy Editors for a thorough copyedit? Catrìona (talk) 11:07, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
. No objection to ALT6. criterion met per Hawkeye7. Eddie891 Talk Work 14:25, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay as I wasn't sure whether Catrìona was planning to do this or not but I have now listed the article at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests for a copy edit. As I can't see any need for a particular rush I would suggest waiting until after this has been completed before putting the hook on the main page. Turismond (talk) 00:22, 4 October 2018 (UTC)