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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:27, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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Talking Gravestones of Amrum, Talking Gravestones of Föhr
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- ... that "talking gravestones" can be found in the cemeteries of the German islands Amrum and Föhr (pictured)?
Created by Sca (talk) and De728631 (talk). Nominated by De728631 (talk) at 21:37, 12 October 2016 (UTC).
- You got me interested in the subject! Hook: I want some bold link to "Talking Gravestones", please, - or people think it's just about the islands. I have so far only read Amrum, - are you sure you want to handle both in one hook, or could it be two? Article: normally, the lead is a summary of things in the body, then needs no refs. On the other hand: Every quote needs a ref, and every paragraph should have at least one. A reference should have a title. I will look again when these basics are met, please ping me then. - The image is licensed, and a good illustration, but the caption is impossible, way too complicated, - we can do better than telling our readers that a gravestone is on a cemetery ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:16, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: It was my intention to nominate these two articles in one hook because they are so closely related. IMHO they could even be merged into one single article, but as it happens the two separate pages originate from two translations of articles from de.wikipedia. That is why I chose two bold links. That said, nominating two articles in a single hook is not prohibited by the DYK regulations. References: I don't quite understand your comment. Can you show me a reference in these articles that does not have a title? Also, the quote from Olufs' tombstone is verified by the image right next to it. But let me propose an alternative hook (136 chars). 21:45, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
- You got me interested in the subject! Hook: I want some bold link to "Talking Gravestones", please, - or people think it's just about the islands. I have so far only read Amrum, - are you sure you want to handle both in one hook, or could it be two? Article: normally, the lead is a summary of things in the body, then needs no refs. On the other hand: Every quote needs a ref, and every paragraph should have at least one. A reference should have a title. I will look again when these basics are met, please ping me then. - The image is licensed, and a good illustration, but the caption is impossible, way too complicated, - we can do better than telling our readers that a gravestone is on a cemetery ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:16, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the Talking Gravestones of Amrum and their counterparts on Föhr island (pictured) may display detailed biographies of the deceased?
- Thank you! Nothing wrong with two articles in one hook, just that to my experience, a second hook a week later would get more attention. You decide. I'd say:
- ALT2: ... that the Talking Gravestones of Amrum and their counterparts on Föhr (pictured) display detailed biographies of the deceased? Ref 2 has no title. Can you place the German inscriptions as a footnote? To compare to the image as asking a lot ;) Some items have no ref, - can you at least place them somewhere else than at the end of a paragraph? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:02, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
- Agree, Föhr nice but the line about infants and flowers ;) - I know it's only DYK, not FA, but the pic arrangement is more to my liking there. Just for the readers: can you try to avoid text "squeezed" between images. And still try to move the unreferenced last lines within a para? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: Done. Please have a look at the latest layout with less images and even more references. De728631 (talk) 17:21, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
- good! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:04, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: Done. Please have a look at the latest layout with less images and even more references. De728631 (talk) 17:21, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
- Agree, Föhr nice but the line about infants and flowers ;) - I know it's only DYK, not FA, but the pic arrangement is more to my liking there. Just for the readers: can you try to avoid text "squeezed" between images. And still try to move the unreferenced last lines within a para? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 22 October 2016 (UTC)