Template:Did you know nominations/Self-deportation

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The result was: promoted by PumpkinSky talk 21:24, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Self-deportation

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... that the term self-deportation was first popularized as a satirical criticism of California Proposition 187 in 1994?

Created/expanded by BDD (talk). Self nom at 16:53, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

New enough, long enough, and well-sourced. However, how was Roman Polanski a legal immigrant? Where are the sources for that? --George Ho (talk) 23:25, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I wasn't entirely sure on that one. I just wanted to throw in a caveat, since Polanski obviously isn't the sort of person people mean when they talk about illegal immigration. It occurs to me that he might not have been an immigrant at all. How about saying he was in the country legally? I think WP:V would allow for such a statement without a citation, which would be difficult to find—legal immigration is a bit of a dog bites man situation. --BDD (talk) 23:32, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Or is it even worth mentioning? I wanted to try and record the earliest usage I could find, but my search was hardly exhaustive. --BDD (talk) 23:34, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Whether worth mentioning or not, the statement is interesting. However, without reliable, reputable source explicitly mentioning his legal immigration, it must be immediately removed. --George Ho (talk) 23:37, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Almost forgot: I realize that Polanski thing must be explained in further detail without going off-topic. How about one or two sentences about Polanski? --George Ho (talk) 23:49, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Is it enough to assume he was in the country legally somehow? What are the odds Paramount ignored labor laws and had an illegal immigrant directing one of their blockbusters? It's conceivable that Hollywood crews employ illegal immigrants, but a director? I did further searches in Google News, looking back in the 60s and 70s, but I couldn't find anything. I really think it's reasonable to assume he was in the country legally, even if he wasn't an immigrant per se. --BDD (talk) 00:09, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

No assumptions. Whether Polanski's immigration is legal or not does matter because source is need. Otherwise, remove it. As for this passage, which I meant, "in a People article about Roman Polanski which referred to his self-deporting," well, maybe... if no further clarification is needed, then I guess it's okay, right? --George Ho (talk) 00:59, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Since Polanski is a living person, WP:BLP may apply, even if this article does not apply to this policy. --George Ho (talk) 01:01, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Days went by without improving it. Therefore, I have transfered the unverifiable statement about Polanski's immigration status into the article's talk page. Nevertheless, the minimum of article's length is still met without such statement. Article is verifiable by reliable sources. No major problems. Lede is decent, especially at article's current length. If no expansion or updates are needed, then this nomination gets a good grade. --George Ho (talk) 07:53, 30 June 2012 (UTC)