Template:Did you know nominations/Retribution (professional wrestling)
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by RoySmith (talk) 14:12, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
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Retribution (professional wrestling)
- ... that the professional wrestling group Retribution has been compared to Antifa? Source: https://prowrestling.net/site/2020/08/11/powells-wwe-raw-hit-list-was-the-randy-orton-and-ric-flair-angle-a-ruse-raw-underground-bayley-vs-asuka-in-a-non-title-match-seth-rollins-and-dominik-mysterio-contract-signing-apollo-crews-vs/
- ALT1: ... that the professional wrestling group Retribution was called the "WWE Antifa"? Source: same as above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Funeral of the Anarchist Galli
Improved to Good Article status by Lee Vilenski (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 23:17, 1 November 2022 (UTC).
- No problems with this Good Article. Hook fact is directly referenced (I prefer ALT1). Looks set for the Main Page! Cheers, Kingoflettuce (talk) 10:50, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Onegreatjoke and Kingoflettuce: Okay, so, would either of you like to tell me why this small-time wrestling blog – in which the owner/"editor" seems to enjoy getting into public pissing contests with commenters – is considered reliable enough that we're just gonna reprint their claim that a wrestling group is like a highly controversial American movement that's not even an organization? On the main page? Like, I'm not the most well-versed in the reliability of various wrestling-based sources, but this one seems closer to the bottom of the barrel. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 10:50, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- I first discovered professional wrestling when I was 12 or so. I was crushed to discover it wasn't real. Mil Máscaras was one of the stars at the time. I'm not sure WP:RS has much meaning in the context professional wrestling, but I'm with leeky on this; this needs a better source. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:05, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Onegreatjoke and Kingoflettuce: Okay, so, would either of you like to tell me why this small-time wrestling blog – in which the owner/"editor" seems to enjoy getting into public pissing contests with commenters – is considered reliable enough that we're just gonna reprint their claim that a wrestling group is like a highly controversial American movement that's not even an organization? On the main page? Like, I'm not the most well-versed in the reliability of various wrestling-based sources, but this one seems closer to the bottom of the barrel. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 10:50, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: How about "... that Retribution was mocked on their debut?" Onegreatjoke (talk) 23:41, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- I shudder to go negative, given WP:DYK#gen4a, but if they are truly universally panned (and it's comparable to a comedy troupe, honestly), why not go all the way: theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 04:22, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Retribution received an award for what WrestleCrap perceived as 2020's worst wrestling event?
- ALT3: ... that Retribution was widely panned by critics and fans for everything about the group, except the performers?
- @Theleekycauldron: How about "... that Retribution was mocked on their debut?" Onegreatjoke (talk) 23:41, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Onegreatjoke: just a reminder, this is waiting on better sourcing. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:38, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
- I'd either try to find some better sourcing or remove it. Though, @Lee Vilenski: could help out here. Onegreatjoke (talk) 19:53, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
- The site is listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional wrestling/Sources... Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:58, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
- Somewhat to my surprise, when I looked up the review I found a serious review, covering all of the points that we require for a WP:RS. So, I'll restore the tick for ALT0 and ALT1. ALT2 and ALT3 need sources, so those are not (yet) approved. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:29, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
- The site is listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional wrestling/Sources... Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:58, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
- I'd either try to find some better sourcing or remove it. Though, @Lee Vilenski: could help out here. Onegreatjoke (talk) 19:53, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
- See WT:DYK#Retribution in prep 5? for details. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:27, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
- Now at Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 188#Retribution in prep 5?. Pinging Onegreatjoke and Lee Vilenski to see whether either can address the reasons this was pulled so it can be approved again, or if it should be closed. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:28, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
- @RoySmith: Actually i'm just going to withdraw this. I don't really have the time nor energy to keep this nomination going anymore. Onegreatjoke (talk) 05:04, 3 January 2023 (UTC)