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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 11:59, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

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Providence Milwaukie Hospital

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Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nominated at 09:14, 1 December 2013 (UTC).

  • Kindly explain why is this hook, that illustrates a general situation, "interesting"? It seems that a large proportion of hospitals in that excel spreadsheet linked as a citation are "under-capacity". Although one has 5 more beds than licensed, some are very significantly more under capacity than the PMH both in percentage terms and in number of beds. -- Ohc ¡digame! 09:51, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Did you know this before you looked at the source? It is common, but I don't think it is common knowledge outside of hospital folks, which is what makes it interesting to general readers. That's the rub with hooks and the "interesting" requirement, is that it is totally subjective. What you find interesting I may not, and vice versa. Aboutmovies (talk) 18:46, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
  • The "interesting" requirement unfortunately pulls in a lot of junk, like tabloidism and use of unrepresentative quotes. While it's true that there's usually over-utilisation of resources rather than under-utilisation in state medical provision, under-utilisation deserves a mention. But when the majority of items on a list indicate it's a general state of affairs, it certainly makes it a lot less "interesting". Especially when the subject is a small hospital with only 77 beds potentially. -- Ohc ¡digame! 02:29, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
  • But you didn't answer my question, if you knew this before looking at the source. If you did not know this, then I think that lends credence to this not being common knowledge, and in my opinion, interesting. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:44, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
  • for ALT2, which is my preferred hook; for ALT1. The article was created on 29th November and was nominated within the 5-day timeframe; it is long enough, beyond Stub-size and well-sourced, principally to newspaper and magazine articles and state government documents. Ref [15] (the 2013 databank) gave me a "page not found" error, so I can't formally verify the original hook—although the same info is available in the 2012 databank ref anyway. I strongly recommend using ALT2 or ALT1 though. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 23:26, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
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