Template:Did you know nominations/Prior Park Landscape Garden
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Victuallers (talk) 14:21, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
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Prior Park Landscape Garden
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- ... that one of only four Palladian bridges in the world (pictured) is located in Prior Park Landscape Garden?
Improved to Good Article status by Rodw (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 01:07, 2 September 2015 (UTC).
Long enough, GA'ed enough, GA'ed recently enough; QPQ done; neutral; no crimes against copyright; no copying of other kids' homework; hook fine and interesting though it begs at least a footnote in the article listing the locations of the other bridges (St Petersburg, Wilton House and somewhere else in England, I forget where; which is why we need a footnote); pic free; bit indistinct at DYK size, but will do in a pinch. Good to go. Belle (talk) 01:57, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
I have returned this from prep 1 as the hook: ... that Prior Park Landscape Garden (pictured) was laid out by the poet Alexander Pope? appears to be incorrect, the source says he was a (co-)designer or advisor, not that he "laid out" the garden. Also, I noted a possible copyvio in the intro, as the text was designed in the 18th century by the poet Alexander Pope and the landscape gardener Capability Brown, and is now owned by the National Trust. The garden was influential in defining the style known as the "English landscape garden" in continental Europe. is virtually identical to the source. Gatoclass (talk) 17:28, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
I am now very confused about this nomination. I was not aware the article had originally been nominated but was pinged at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Prep 1 to provide references for the hook - which I did. I commented that a slightly different text "One of only four Palladian bridges of this design in the world" might be more appropriate as there is some debate about how a "Palladian bridge" is defined. I was asked for another hook and suggested "that Prior Park Landscape Garden (pictured) was laid out by the poet Alexander Pope?". This was then pulled and returned to the nomination page as the phrase "laid out by" would probably have been better worded as "contributed to the design" or similar. Fair enough - however the bot then announced on the talk page that the article had appeared on the Main page. I now see a comment about a possible copyvio presumably from this source which I suspect may have copied from wikipedia where it has appeared almost unchanged since 2006 (The earliest version of the Minerva Conservation page I can find on the internet archive wayback machine is this one from 2008). I would welcome further reviews, but wonder how various parts of the process fell down here. @Casliber: may wish to comment as the nominator.— Rod talk 20:29, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- The announcement on the talk page was triggered because when Gatoclass pulled the hook from prep the DyKmake for Cas was left behind and the bot just trusts whatever it finds in the tags. I think the rest of it is mostly down to me; when I reviewed and copy-edited I saw the Palladian bridge stuff in the sources but it slipped my mind to check whether it had an inline. The Minerva link I did start to remove as it was only used in the lede and looked like a circular reference, but I got caught up trying to move the other reference out of the lede too and find something to cite the second part of that paragraph; in the end I just gave up for the night and then forgot about it. The niggles about the hooks are just niggles and probably would have passed unnoticed if the original hook had had an inline citation. That's my post-mortem; I think to get the article back out on DYK you need to lose the Minerva reference and cite the The garden was influential in defining the style known as the "English landscape garden" in continental Europe sentence (although recently people have been claiming that we can write anything in DYK articles as long as the hook is cited). Belle (talk) 22:58, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that a park was established on the site of Prior Park Landscape Garden (pictured) in 1100AD by John of Tours?
New review request to check hook and if copyvio issues have been resolved. Thanks. Fuebaey (talk) 19:26, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
24.8% copyvios confidence, looks good to me. Hook is short enough, neutral, and verified to an online source. sst✈ 09:56, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
