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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 00:36, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

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Numbered-node cycle network

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A "bike-by-numbers" sign
A "bike-by-numbers" sign
  • ... that the international numbered-node cycle network gives more freedom to cycle arbitrary routes across Europe? Source: "The advantage over previous systems is the great freedom with which routes can be planned"[1], details [2](note that the text is by an internationally-recognized expert cited elsewhere by others on Wikipedia; there are also sources in Dutch, German, or French, I could cite it from those.)
  • Reviewed: ...pretty sure I have, is there any way to check? Could do another. Holothuria fuscopunctata
  • Comment: Caption could be shortened to the point of mystery. Open to better suggestions for hooks.

Created by HLHJ (talk). Self-nominated at 01:31, 25 April 2021 (UTC).

  • Interesting article. Makes me want to take a biking vacation in Europe. The article is within policy, new enough, and long enough. Te hook fact is verifiable to the cited reference, and the length is fine. I am assuming in good faith that the self published source is indeed by an established expert, and is therefore ok per the policy at WP:BLOGS. The only thing holding up an approval is completing the QPQ. Please take time to review an article. Thanks.4meter4 (talk) 00:47, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
    Don't you think the caption for the picture is a bit too long? (It's nearly 200 characters – a hook to itself!) I'd suggest trimming it after the first eight words. I've left a note on the nominator's talk page regarding their unused QPQ reviews. – Reidgreg (talk) 15:22, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Good point, I hadn’t considered the caption text. I agree it needs to be paired down.4meter4 (talk) 23:35, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Reidgreg! I was unsuccessfully looking for that algorithym in a hurry. I've used Holothuria fuscopunctata. The caption is pretty long. Maybe something about the signage system having been described as perfect for those with no sense of direction? Or ' A "bike-by-numbers" sign'? Or something about "One can follow signs like these across a large and expanding area of Europe"? 4meter4, thank you for the review; do you have ideas on the caption? There are a lot of pretty useless sources consisting of tourist boards asserting that they are on the network and their area is great :); apparently household day trips are being popular recently. HLHJ (talk) 00:07, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
    • I probably would have used Signage for the numbered-node cycle network so it has the same phrasing as the bolded text and readers can more quickly spot it and follow it to the article. But A "bike-by-numbers" sign also sounds good. Since these are sentence fragments (no verb) they don't need terminal punctuation. – Reidgreg (talk) 10:43, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
  • The Wikidata lang links need fixing before this goes up. HLHJ (talk) 00:11, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
    • I think I've fixed this by merging Q106575415 into Q12909606, an older existing wikidata item. In order to do it, I had to remove Commons category:Cycle node networks as the existing item used Category:Bicycle route networks. You may want to move any media to the latter category, or do a category merge at Commons. – Reidgreg (talk) 10:30, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the merge,Reidgreg. Despite the Dutch wp article conflating the two, numbered-node networks are a subcategory of bike (technically cycle, tadpole recumbents etc. too) route networks. For instance, National cycling route networks are contrasting non-modular non-numbered networks of long-distance named cycle routes. I think I organized this ontology on Commons; would it also make sense on Wikidata? HLHJ (talk) 14:53, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Part-fixed. Commons:Category:Bicycle route networks is still a bit odd-looking and probably needs rationalizing. But this article's entry looks fine. HLHJ (talk) 04:25, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Excellent. QPQ is done, and the other issues are fixed. This can be promoted.4meter4 (talk) 15:55, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
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