Template:Did you know nominations/Nigel Miguel
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:01, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
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Nigel Miguel
[edit]- ... that prior to becoming the film commissioner of Belize, Nigel Miguel spent seven years as the body double for Michael Jordan?
- ALT1:... that former basketball player Nigel Miguel became Belize's first goodwill ambassador to the United States?
- Reviewed: Mamadou N'Diaye (basketball, born 1993)
Created by Bagumba (talk). Self nominated at 16:16, 4 October 2014 (UTC).
New article is 5,556 characters long and completed on the same day as nomination. Duplication detector check of online sources [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10] and quick read through Google Books and News Archive sources (which can't go through Dup detector) reveal no close paraphrasing issues (AGF one subscription-required source, waiving direct quotes and applying WP:LIMITED). Article is well-sourced. Hook is 125 characters long (ALT1 is 106); both are under the 200 character max. limit and are interesting. Refs 3 (verifying ALT1); 2, 10 and 12 (verifying main hook) are all reliable online sources. QPQ done. Looks good to go! —Bloom6132 (talk) 00:44, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
I've pulled this from the prep area and brought it back due to close paraphrasing: despite the review, to my eye, the article's language is far too close to the LATimes source. Compare, for example, the source's "came back to the Nets in 1987 but he was a step slower" with the article's "returned to the Nets in 1987–88, but he was a step slower", or the source's "the Nets had lost in the previous months all four of their 1985-86 guards [...] to either trades, injuries or drug-related suspensions" with the article's "the Nets had lost all four of their 1985–86 guards to either trades, injuries, or drug-related suspensions". Once the nominator checks thoroughly for additional close paraphrasing and revises the article accordingly, I'm going to ask Nikkimaria to take a comprehensive look, as she's better than I at such checks. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:24, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
I think Wikipedia:Plagiarism#What_is_not_plagiarism is applicable: "Plagiarism is not a concern where the content lacks creativity ... phrases that are the simplest and most obvious way to present information." Still, I've attempted to address the specific phrases of concern here, but as these are short ideas, as opposed to multiple sentences, there's not much leeway short of making it too verbose or using non-standard sports terminology. I've revisited the entire article again, but can't find anything additional I deem as plagiarism. Let me know if there are further concerns.—Bagumba (talk) 21:48, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
- That provision is typically only applied to really straightforward phrasings, like "He was born in 1963". The examples raised above do not seem to fit that, and the latter should be rephrased further (or put in direct quotes, if you prefer). However, except for that single paragraph the rest of the article seems fair, so this shouldn't be too much work to solve. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:37, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
- Direct quote would not be appropriate per WP:PLAGFORM, which warns that in-text attribution could cause WP:NPOV issues in making a fact appear as an opinion. At any rate, I've added another source to supplement the article, and the text of the "latter" case you referred to should have no concerns now.[11]. Let me know if there are further questions.—Bagumba (talk) 07:30, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
