Template:Did you know nominations/Nanhaipotamon

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by TheAwesome Hwyh 00:06, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Nanhaipotamon

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Nanhaipotamon guangdongense from Zhuhai, Guangdong

~~... that researchers discovered a new, endemic species of freshwater crab (genus Nanhaipotamon) in the tourist hotspot Macau, one of the most densely populated cities on earth?~~ Source: https://doi.org/10.3897/zookeys.810.30726
- ALT1:... that it was recently discovered the gambling paradise Macau is home to an endemic species of freshwater crab of the genus Nanhaipotamon (pictured)? Source: https://doi.org/10.3897/zookeys.810.30726

Created by Bubbleleg96 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:08, 19 May 2019 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: ~~The hooks aren't interesting, and the article is too short. QPQ still pending.~~ Approved DannyS712 (talk) 20:34, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

@Bubbleleg96: see review above --DannyS712 (talk) 20:39, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

This is the nominator's first DYK nomination; as they have less than five noms, they are not yet required to do a QPQ. I agree though that the hooks are bland and should not run. I would have suggested a hook here, but at the moment the article is too short. If this can't be expanded in a reasonable amount of time, the nomination will probably have to be marked as failed. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 11:31, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Sorry to contradict, but I think the first hook is very interesting. Who would have expected a new species of crab to be detected in such a tourist hotspot? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:44, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

@Cwmhiraeth: I agree that they are now, but I reviewed Special:Permalink/897861222 --DannyS712 (talk) 05:47, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

OK. The original hooks should have been struck rather than replaced. They are better now. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:06, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

@DannyS712: The article now has over 1500 characters of readable prose and I changed the content of the hooks. Bubbleleg96 (talk) 11:45, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

@Bubbleleg96: approved --DannyS712 (talk) 04:17, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Returned from prep per extensive discussion at Prep 4:Crab in Macau. We need a new hook. Yoninah (talk) 20:39, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Bubbleleg96 how would you feel about this? It gets at the surprise of still making new discoveries of species, plus Macau?

ALT2 ... that nearly a third of the known species of this crab (pictured) were discovered in the past ten years, the most recent in 2018 in Macau?

Both points are already sourced within the article. --valereee (talk) 10:35, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

I'm also wondering if we can crop that image a little closer:

Nanhaipotamon guangdongense

--valereee (talk) 10:42, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

@Valereee: Yeah, I am ok with that. Maybe rephrase it a little so that

ALT2b ... that a third of the known species of the genus Nanhaipotamon (pictured) were discovered in the past ten years, the most recent in 2018 in Macau

The reason why I wrote the article and nominated it to DYK was mostly to raise awareness about this group of animals, and I thought the recent discovery in Macau was a interesting hook. People seem to disagree, so it doesn't have to mention Macau for my sake.

Bubbleleg96 (talk) 12:49, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

If ALT2b is used, the image doesn't apply, because it's not a picture of the genus per the hook. Yoninah (talk) 13:42, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

I'm repeating here my thoughts that I don't think the hook works well without the mention of Macau. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 03:32, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: Alt1 also mentions Macau, as do both Alt2 and Alt2b. @Yoninah: As for the image, it shows another species of the genus, but since the article is not only about the new species only, but about the genus in general, I think that should be ok. Furthermore, I don´t have an image of N. macau, and to my knowledge, the only published one is in the article.

Bubbleleg96 (talk) 3:35, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

New reviewer needed to review the latest hooks; this has been sitting for over a month. Thank you to whoever reviews it. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:16, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems:

Image eligibility:

Freely licensed:
Used in article:
Clear at 100px: - n

QPQ: Done.

Overall: I've copyedited ALT1, which is good to go. However, the picture used is not the most clear; it's dark brown on light brown. May I suggest using File:Nanhaipotamon aculatum 2.jpg instead? –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 04:32, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

@MJL: I just inserted a new image of a bright red crab, that should work, right? The file name is File:Nanhaipotamon hongkongense island.jpg. I am ok with both options, so choose whichever you think is best. Thanks a lot.

Bubbleleg96 (talk) 2:22, 08 August 2019 (UTC)

Nanhaipotamon hongkongense

@Bubbleleg96: Awwwweee look at the liddle guy!!! Yes, this picture is superb!! ALT1 and this picture are approved!

–MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 02:34, 8 August 2019 (UTC)