Template:Did you know nominations/Nancy Pelosi

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The result was: promoted by valereee (talk) 19:49, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Nancy Pelosi

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Nancy Pelosi in 2019

~~... that Nancy Pelosi is the only woman to have served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, and the first Speaker since the 1950s to serve a second term?~~ Source: [1], [2]

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Stephen L. Dubuisson

Improved to Good Article status by DannyS712 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:44, 15 May 2019 (UTC).

Article is new enough (recent GA), long enough, neutral, and fully referenced. The hook is interesting, neutral, and verified with supplied sources. QPQ is done. No copyvio found. Image is public domain. Good to go. -Zanhe (talk) 00:20, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Zanhe: can this be reserved for June 2? Thats when she first joined the house of representatives. --DannyS712 (talk) 01:16, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
@Zanhe, @DannyS712: the assertion "first Speaker since the 1950s to serve a second term" is technically incorrect.

Each new Congress elects a speaker as its first act. Their term of office lasts until the end of that congress, i.e two years.

The List of Speakers shows that actually, every Speaker since Jo Byrns in the 1930s has served for multiple terms.

Pelosi's distinction is as the first speaker since Sam Rayburn in the 1950s to serve for non-consecutive terms.

Note that neither source supports either facts or the terminology used in the hook. The first source(CNN) is from 2007, so cannot refer to the 2019 election. The second source(Politico) is from before her 2019 re-election, so also cannot assert the link. Neither source uses the phrase "second term".

So, the sources listed above don't support any of this. I won't hold out for a specific source for DYK purposes, because the fact of Pelosi's return to office is well-established, and doesn't need source-farming to establish DYK suitability ... but please correct the terminology in this hook, and please ensure that the sources in the lead of the article support the facts asserted there. It have added[3] a {{Failed verification}} to the last ref in the lead. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:34, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl and Zanhe: I sourced in properly, and see alt1 below --DannyS712 (talk) 01:41, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that Nancy Pelosi (pictured) is the only woman to have served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, and the first Speaker since the 1950s to serve non-consecutive terms? Source: [4]

Thanks for the prompt fixes, @DannyS712. Terminology now correct and the MotherJones article[5] specifically says "the first speaker to serve two non-consecutive terms since former Texas Rep. Sam Rayburn, who served three non-consecutive terms as speaker between 1940 and 1961". ALT1 is good to go. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:46, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
@DannyS712: No problem. I've moved the hook to the special occasion holding area under June 2. -Zanhe (talk) 04:03, 17 May 2019 (UTC)