Template:Did you know nominations/Mysore Sandalwood Oil
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Jolly Ω Janner 04:28, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
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Mysore Sandalwood Oil
[edit]... that Mysore Sandalwood Oil, (pictured), is a perfume oil extracted from sandalwood known as a "royal wood", a tree species grown in Mysore, and said to be one of the best varieties in the world?
Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 14:42, 28 January 2016 (UTC).
- The article is new enough, long enough with appropriate citations. The hook is cited within the article and properly formatted. No copyvio. The image is relevant to the article and in public domain. GTG. Mchuedem (talk) 18:43, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
- Mchuedem - not all elements of the hook have cites at the end of the relevant article sentences. I have also rephrased the hook a bit to make it clearer. Edwardx (talk) 14:34, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- Edwardx. Thanks for the review. I have fixed additional references. Please see.Nvvchar. 07:23, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
- I went through the article and did a copyedit. I also added tags for questionable statements. This is not your usual quality of work, @Nvvchar:. The lead is full of unnecessary citations; there is some confusion in the lead as to whether it's "Mysore district" or "Mysore state"; and there's a lot of repetition between the second paragraph of History and the paragraph under Production. I think the statistics should be moved to their own section. When I came across the questionable "fact" that "Considering its spiritual connotation, Solomon's Temple was built with sandalwood", I looked down at the references and saw that you are quoting less-than-scholarly works (Your Complete Introduction to Traditional Witchcraft? The Perfumery and Essential Oil Record Year Book & Diary?). The Solomon's Temple page makes no mention of sandalwood, and I doubt that Judaism gives the wood any "spiritual" importance. I think this page is in need of an overhaul before this DYK nomination can proceed. Yoninah (talk) 20:37, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
- Yoninah Thanks for the review. As it was a book reference I thought it was ok to use. I have now restructured the article, removed the objectionable references and the related texts. I have also added from other reliable texts. In the lead, I have added another ref which says it is the Mysore district. Please see if it is now in order.Nvvchar. 09:20, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you, @Nvvchar:, that's much better. I added a little more from the Wilson source. Now, as to the hook. Could you shorten it/sharpen it so it focuses on only one or two things? That would make it more hooky. Just saying it's one of the best varieties is hooky enough. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 13:14, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Yoninah Thank you very much. Suggestion for hook ALT1
... that the Mysore Sandalwood Oil, (pictured), is a perfume oil said to be one of the best varieties in the world?Nvvchar. 13:30, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- I'm afraid that's not entirely accurate; the species of wood is one of the best varieties, not the oil. Also, the ref to Pitman doesn't have a source, and you need a cite for the statement that the sandalwood oil produced in Mysore accounts for 70% of the world's sandalwood production. I'm still going over the article, and will suggest another alt if you wish. Yoninah (talk) 15:09, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Yoninah Thank you very much. Suggestion for hook ALT1
- Yes, please. I have fixed a reference to the 70% claim. Nvvchar. 15:24, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for the cite. What are you going to do about the Pitman ref which leads nowhere? Here is an alt:
- ALT2: ... that sandalwood oil (pictured) is so important to the economy of Mysore, India, that it has been registered and trademarked? Yoninah (talk) 19:32, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. Calling on another reviewer to approve ALT2. Yoninah (talk) 16:28, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
- Created Jan 26, nom Jan 28/new enough. 3106 char/long enough. Neutral. No apparent close paraphrasing. Citations throughout, though you need to fix the ref to Vivekananda which points nowhere. QPQ done. Photo per commons is PD. Hook is 127 char/under maximum. Interesting. Verified by a citation immediately following. SusunW (talk) 21:46, 5 February 2016 (UTC)