Template:Did you know nominations/McLaren MCL35

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The result was: promoted by Amakuru (talk) 15:00, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

McLaren MCL35

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... that the McLaren MCL35 was the first McLaren race car not to be painted? Source: Matt Youson, McLaren Racing 2020 Yearbook, p.9
- ALT1: ... that McLaren MCL35 had two variants, the second of which was McLaren's first race-winning car in nine years? Source: Ricciardo leads stunning McLaren 1-2 after Verstappen and Hamilton collide at Monza
- ALT2: ... that the second variant of the McLaren MCL35 was called one of the most difficult Formula One cars to overtake by one of its former drivers? Source: Sainz: McLaren one of the most difficult F1 cars to overtake
- ALT3: ... that a version of the McLaren MCL35 will continue to be run in tests in 2022, its third year of use since its debut? Source: Herta gets 2022 F1 testing programme with year-old McLaren
- Reviewed: Permanent Representative of Switzerland to the United Nations
- Comment: Happy to come up with more hooks if needed, there's plenty of content.

Improved to Good Article status by 5225C (talk). Self-nominated at 15:14, 16 June 2022 (UTC).

I will commend you for a comprehensive article - more than I ever wanted to know about a car. Recently improved to good article. QPQ done. I spot checked a few references (there are 352) and they square. I do not find copyright issues, and the article uses the correct inline citations. I prefer ALT0 as confirmed - but it needs to be rewritten to: ... that the McLaren MCL35 was the first McLaren race car which was not to be painted? Bruxton (talk) 03:09, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! I'm not sure the reworded hook works grammatically though. Perhaps "... that the McLaren MCL35 was the first McLaren race car which was not painted?" would be clearer? 5225_C (talk • contributions) 13:52, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

@Bruxton: Thoughts on the above hook? If it works, can you format it as an ALT hook and add another green tick? Z1720 (talk) 19:38, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

@Z1720 and Z1720: Thanks for the ping. That works! Bruxton (talk) 20:00, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

ALT4 ... that the McLaren MCL35 was the first McLaren race car which was not painted?

@5225C, Bruxton, 5225C, and SL93: - reopening per the issues raised by SL93 at WT:DYK; apologies I was not around much over the weekend so missed SL93's ping, but I agree that we can't say the car is "unpainted" when sources say it is actually partially painted. Perhaps the hook can be tweaked so that it conveys the same point while being completely accurate? — Amakuru (talk) 09:15, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

ALT5 ... that the McLaren MCL35 was the first McLaren race car predominantly coated in vinyl rather than paint?
Alternatively, I am quite happy to use a different hook. I believe Bruxton didn't like the other hooks here, so may I suggest:
- ALT6: ... that the McLaren MCL35 used two different engine suppliers, forcing a change in Formula One regulations? Source: R&D token flexibility “a good compromise" - Brawn
- ALT7: ... that the McLaren MCL35 had two variants, the latter of which was the only car to score a 1–2 finish in the 2021 Formula One World Championship? Source: How much did forgotten F1 restriction hurt McLaren?

Still happy to provide more if needed. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 09:25, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

ALT5 - Bruxton (talk) 14:09, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Also check out our article on the topic. Vehicle vinyl wrap. practice of completely or partially covering a vehicle's original paint with a vinyl wrap. And "Car wrapping is when you cover a car, either fully or partially, in a special vinyl film. It’s designed to help people change the look of their car without having to pay through the nose for a full respray." We can sometimes get too literal in our hooks, and spoil them. I saw a discussion about this on DYK talk twice this month. We can probably say with a great degree of accuracy ... that the McLaren MCL35 was the first McLaren race car to be wrapped? Bruxton (talk) 14:57, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

That works. ALT8: ... that the McLaren MCL35 was the first McLaren race car to be wrapped? 5225_C (talk • contributions) 01:52, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

ALT8 Bruxton (talk) 02:46, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Is there a source that says such a thing? SL93 (talk) 00:08, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
Pinging Amakuru for thoughts. SL93 (talk) 00:38, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Cannot access the reference, but I AGF.

Youson, Matt (2021). Robinson, Stuart; Holmes, Robert (eds.). McLaren Racing 2020 Yearbook. Woking, United Kingdom: McLaren Racing Ltd. Bruxton (talk) 04:04, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I have some out of town guests and may not be as responsive. I will need to be pinged in order to return to this nomination over the next few days and may not get to it quickly. Bruxton (talk) 12:15, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

This has gone on so long that my next visit has come round and I can again access my collection. Here's the entirety of page 9:

Our 2020 F1 challenger broke cover on 13 February, unveiled at the McLaren Technology Centre (MTC) by drivers Carlos Sainz and Lando Norris. Following the pattern of the last few seasons, the launch event was held in the auditorium of the Thought Leadership Centre. The event was hosted by Simon Lazenby of Sky Sports F1 and live-streamed around the MTC and to the outside world. The new car always looks different to its predecessor but the MCL35 took that a little further, being the first McLaren to be wrapped in vinyl rather than painted. The papaya and blue livery was more matt than its predecessor. The engineering reasons behind the change were to have a car that was lighter, using bodywork that could be prepared faster and would last longer; aesthetically, it simply looked like it meant business.

The MCL35 was the first car launched under the aegis of the new management structure, and the first McLaren car for which Technical Director James Key had been at the helm. It was, he said, a product equally in continuity and change.

"There are new concepts here that we've looked at alongside what we learned last year with the MCL34. From the cockpit backwards it's a very different approach to what we've had before - but equally the '34 is very much the father of the concept we have now. We've tried to carry forward what we learned last year, while addressing opportunities we couldn't previously unlock with the geometry of the previous car."

"It's always exciting at the start of the season to see the work of 850 people, coming together to develop this beautiful race car," added Zak. "I'm very happy with the progress that we made last year; I'm very happy with the leadership team I have in place now and we have a clear plan of how we want to approach the future. Now it's simply important to keep this positive momentum up and, as a team, keep improving."

I have a photo of the page if the veracity of this transcription is disputed. If this doesn't settle it, can we please move on to considering a new hook? I would rather come up with something new that is not in dispute than continue to quibble on the wording of this point. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 14:40, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi @5225C and SL93: I'm happy with this wording now, and Bruxton has approved it, so promoting now to Prep 6. Thanks for your work. — Amakuru (talk) 15:00, 29 June 2022 (UTC)